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ToxSocks 03-16-2022 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16194057)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Raiders are releasing DE Carl Nassib, per league source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504117811366580234?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 16, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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kcbubb 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

I’m not sure if this has been posted but Marcus Davenport is staying with saints. What are our options at DE now?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...earance%3Ddark

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16194070)
We probably need to be looking at a vet CB or two. Who's out there?

Stephon Gilmore but Rasul Douglas would be a good cheap option

chiefforlife 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16194070)
We probably need to be looking at a vet CB or two. Who's out there?

James Bradberry!

O.city 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

I'm not into paying Gilmore.

Douglas maybe.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16194074)
I’m not sure if this has been posted but Marcus Davenport is staying with saints. What are our options at DE now?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...earance%3Ddark

Yea the Santa have saved 80 mil in cap space without releasing a single player.

FloridaMan88 03-16-2022 09:39 AM

I am preparing myself mentally for the letdown when I see a "Chiefs sign Robinson" headline only to find out it is the Chiefs re-signing Demarcus Robinson.

chiefforlife 03-16-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16194074)
I’m not sure if this has been posted but Marcus Davenport is staying with saints. What are our options at DE now?

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...earance%3Ddark

Chandler Jones

Zadarius Smith

The Franchise 03-16-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16194072)
You could do it, but with Jones still being fairly young, I would imagine any restructure includes a 3rd year on the deal.

If they stuck to just a 2-year deal, you'd turn that $18 million roster bonus into a signing bonus and maybe put a void year on the back end. That would take the 18 million and split it into 3 chunks of $6 million so you'd bring his cap hit this year from $19 million down to about $7 million. The downshot is you create $12 million in hard cap money in 23 and 24 (again, presuming the void year). And his base is at $19 million for next season so you're looking at a cap hit of $25 million.

Now at that point you could presumptively take that $19 million base and AGAIN bonus it out as part of a 2 year extension. So then he's on a 3 year deal starting in 2023 w/ the $6 million in restructure bonus on the cap plus ANOTHER $6 million ish from the extension as a signing bonus cap charge. So you're starting in 2023 with a cap figure of $12+ million. Presuming a relatively low year 1 salary you could get away with about $14 million but you've now stuck dead money into 2024 and 2025 as well and likely some pretty hefty salary figures in there.

It could all be done but you'd need a willing partner in Jones. Or ultimately you just eat some shit next year if you chose to cut him and whatever roster bonus you converted to a restructure bonus all hits the cap next year (or potentially over 2 years if June 1 tagged).

Clear as mud?

Yeah about as clear as it's going to get at this point. Tacking on that 3rd year wouldn't be that bad because right now his cap hits are $29 million and $27 million next year.

It's all a waste though because I highly doubt he would do it. As it stands right now, he's going to hit FA when he's 29-30 and he'll be able to cash in one last time.

DJ's left nut 03-16-2022 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16194059)
Yeah. The problem is that OTC doesn't allow you to cut him in 2023 and see what the hit would be. It kind of just locks it at that point.

Ah shit - I just overlooked the fact that he's already sitting on some substantial restructure bonuses this year and next.

So yeah, you do that this year you really need that void year to kick that $18 million over 3 years rather than splitting it into 2. Otherwise you're looking at only gaining about $9 million in cap space this year and immediately starting with about $16 million in insecapable cap charge for him next year while he's ALSO sporting a $19 million base salary.

So that would be a $35 million cap hit next season. Uh - no thanks.

If you restructure it needs to be part of an extension. Otherwise you're probably better served to keep your powder dry.

Dante84 03-16-2022 09:44 AM

I still think Robinson isn't going to happen because of Nagy's presence on our staff.

Would love to be wrong about that.

The Franchise 03-16-2022 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16194090)
Ah shit - I just overlooked the fact that he's already sitting on some substantial restructure bonuses this year and next.

So yeah, you do that this year you really need that void year to kick that $18 million over 3 years rather than splitting it into 2. Otherwise you're looking at only gaining about $9 million in cap space this year and immediately starting with about $16 million in insecapable cap charge for him next year while he's ALSO sporting a $19 million base salary.

So that would be a $35 million cap hit next season. Uh - no thanks.

If you restructure it needs to be part of an extension. Otherwise you're probably better served to keep your powder dry.

The only thing I could see is them trying to work out an extension next season like they're doing with Hill this year.

Couch-Potato 03-16-2022 09:46 AM

Shocked that there has been zero buzz associating us with a DE?

Titty Meat 03-16-2022 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16194103)
I still think Robinson isn't going to happen because of Nagy's presence on our staff.

Would love to be wrong about that.

I just did a medi sesh. You need to quit being negative

htismaqe 03-16-2022 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16194103)
I still think Robinson isn't going to happen because of Nagy's presence on our staff.

Would love to be wrong about that.

Robinson would have virtually no interaction with him. I can't see it being a major decision factor at all. Maybe if everything else - money, scheme fit, QB situation, etc. - were equal.


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