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Chiefs on verge of a deal with Andy Reid (merged) (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=268357)

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9269685)

Who is assuming that?

"First of all, I should have been more clear - these guys are basically discussing Clark keeping Pioli IN HIS EXISTING CAPACITY. They're talking about not only him staying in KC, but remaining in CHARGE.

Dude, he said that he was going to hire a head coach and he and the coach would decide Pioli's fate."

If a new HC keeps Pioli, then guess what, Pioli remains in his existing capacity lol

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9269692)

The sports media in this town, surprisingly, doesn't spend a lot of time following sports. At least the 810 guys are always doing other things. When they talk sports details, with the exception of Petro most of the time, they know less than almost anyone here. They are horribly misinformed, and somehow, they only take calls from people who know less than they do.

This. So much of this.

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9269676)

2) Clark hires a nobody HC that keeps Pioli because the guy is probably connected to him or Father in Law Parcells

And Arrowhead will be empty because Clark will have lied to the fans. There is NO WAY that he can justify a tree hire at this point.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9269670)

Dude, he said that he was going to hire a head coach and he and the coach would decide Pioli's fate.

If he's already decided to keep Pioli and let him call the shots, Clark lied to us. The stadium won't be half empty, it will be COMPLETELY empty.

This!

It would not only be a PR disaster but a really big hit to the fan base.

Messier that seems about right. It is like KK checked out about 7-10 years ago with actually studying about what is actually going around him in sports. Once he became part owner, he just shut down. It doesn't matter what type of crap he spews, he feels confident he will have a job.

"The Kansas City job is worthless for him. He doesn't want it." -Tony Kornheiser

**** YOU TONY

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9269699)

He'd go back to what he did in NE for Belichick. The HC would have final word on all roster moves. Pioli would simply be there to assist.

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9269670)

First of all, I should have been more clear - these guys are basically discussing Clark keeping Pioli IN HIS EXISTING CAPACITY. They're talking about not only him staying in KC, but remaining in CHARGE.

Dude, he said that he was going to hire a head coach and he and the coach would decide Pioli's fate.

If he's already decided to keep Pioli and let him call the shots, Clark lied to us. The stadium won't be half empty, it will be COMPLETELY empty.

Here is a transcript of Beers interview with Clark yesterday. In it he said that Pioli may stay in charge but he is leaving open the option of finding a HC that would want personnel control.

Like I said it is not out of the realm of possibility that Pioli may not be fired and still be in charge. I hope not but who knows..

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...-new-direction

OK, so, just so we're clear here, there is a scenario out there where Scott wouldn't be with the team in 2013? How could that arise?

"Yes. Just to go back to my statement this morning about the football operation being under review, when you have a year like we did, no one gets a passing grade. I'm going to focus on the head-coaching search here in the next two to three weeks, it's important from a timing standpoint to do that. And then I'm going to circle back to the rest of the football operation and make those decisions at that time."

Will the coach have a say in whether or not Scott stays?

"I wouldn't say that he'll have a say. But obviously, chemistry is very important. When you're talking about a team, chemistry is always important. And among your general manager and head football coach, that's important as well."

So if a head coach you want is here and says I want my own personnel guy, is it realistic to think that might trigger a move?

"Well, we have a very open mind heading into the coaching search. I don't want to rule out anything. We're going to talk to coaches who have NFL coaching candidates, some who are coordinators, some who are involved at the college level. We're going to talk to a wide spectrum. And really, anything is possible at this point."

I know, traditionally, the GM has reported to you. Have you decided how the structure of the football operation is going to work going forward?

"Yes. We are going to change the structure. Historically, the head coach has reported to the general manager. I think that's true going back to the early days of the franchise. And I'm changing it today. Going forward, the head coach will report directly to me. The GM will report to me as well."

What's your goal in changing the structure?

"I think it gives us the best chance of hiring the best candidate. You mentioned a while ago that some of the coaches want more control. I think that's right, and if we find the right coach, I certainly want to have a structure that's acceptable to him."

Do you feel like Scott Pioli can still be the right man to right the ship here?

"I have not ruled that out. We're still evaluating that. But the priority here over the next few weeks is going to be the head coach."

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9269714)

"The Kansas City job is worthless for him. He doesn't want it." -Tony Kornheiser

**** YOU TONY

Where did he say this?

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9269719)

The head coach, according to Clark, will report to Clark.

By definition, Pioli CANNOT remain in his existing capacity because his existing capacity includes having the head coach report to him.

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9269714)

"The Kansas City job is worthless for him. He doesn't want it." -Tony Kornheiser

**** YOU TONY

Sure he would say this. The midwest is meaningless to him.

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9269719)

Here is a transcript of Beers interview with Clark yesterday. In it he said that Pioli may stay in charge but he is leaving open the option of finding a HC that would want personnel control.

Like I said it is not out of the realm of possibility that Pioli may not be fired and still be in charge. I hope not but who knows..

If the HC is reporting to Clark, and unless you think Clark just lied outright, Pioli is not in the same capacity and is not in charge no matter whether he is here or not.

Edit:or yea this.........

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9269729)

The head coach, according to Clark, will report to Clark.

By definition, Pioli CANNOT remain in his existing capacity because his existing capacity includes having the head coach report to him.

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Originally Posted by blsilks (Post 9269672)

Maybe we can get McNabb as our QB also. Oh wait...the Eagles suck.

Also McNabb is like 50 years old and sucked for the last 5 years of his career?

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 9269699)

Wrong.

Pioli's existing capacity includes the head coach reporting to him.

So either Clark is flat out lying, or Pioli will not be kept in his existing capacity.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9269721)

Where did he say this?

He just said it on PTI. Michael Wilbon is in Arizona right now for the bowl game and he said Reid will sign with the Cards.

I pray he's wrong.