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MahomesMagic 02-10-2025 06:31 PM

Josh Allen can ask for Jalen Hurts autograph.

KCBlitz 02-10-2025 06:44 PM

Hurts is better than Allen…at keeping his composure in big moments.

DRM08 02-10-2025 06:53 PM

Buffalo should replace McDermott with Vic Fangio. They need a different approach on Defense.

FloridaMan88 02-10-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 17963513)
biggest losers in the history of the planet. ROFL

https://i.ibb.co/xKNBDr7W/Screenshot...-10-182152.png

How does Buffalo cope with a continued empty trophy case.

Sassy Squatch 02-10-2025 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17963576)
Buffalo should replace McDermott with Vic Fangio. They need a different approach on Defense.

Shhh.....

ForeverIowan 02-10-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 17963513)
biggest losers in the history of the planet. ROFL

https://i.ibb.co/xKNBDr7W/Screenshot...-10-182152.png

Is this a bit like a janitor and his fat and ugly wife having a laugh at a millionaire and his model girlfriend for getting his Escalade into a fender bender on his way to his multi million dollar beach house?

What a sad franchise. Literally nothing to talk about but us. I have never seen a more obsessed fanbase.

Rainbarrel 02-10-2025 07:26 PM

They'll be finger painting pictures of Buffalo on their hind feet. Gigging frogs on their igloo walls into the spring melt

Why Not? 02-10-2025 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverIowan (Post 17963592)
Is this a bit like a janitor and his fat and ugly wife having a laugh at a millionaire and his model girlfriend for getting his Escalade into a fender bender on his way to his multi million dollar beach house?

What a sad franchise. Literally nothing to talk about but us. I have never seen a more obsessed fanbase.

Great analogy!

Bump 02-10-2025 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hark Clunt (Post 17963513)
biggest losers in the history of the planet. ROFL

https://i.ibb.co/xKNBDr7W/Screenshot...-10-182152.png

most Chiefs fans that I saw said good game to the Eagles and complimented their talented roster.

No such class would ever be shown from a bengal fan

Gary Cooper 02-10-2025 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17963505)
Buffalo being completely stonewalled by our patchwork OL is incredibly damning in hindsight. Pressure on 28.1% of drop backs with 6 blitzes.

Buffalo's weakness in the playoffs is always defense.

Conversely, the Eagles wouldn't have raped Buffalo's offensive line. The Bills were last in sacks surrendered and unlike the Chiefs, they can actually run the ball and have a solid line.

It would have been a much better game of course but the Eagles likely have their way with Buffalo's defense in a high scoring game.

Rainbarrel 02-10-2025 08:46 PM

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Next season is the Bills' seasom

rydogg58 02-10-2025 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17963522)
They would all cast their firstborns into Niagara falls to experience what we have.

No need to give them a taste of what we have. Just put a table at the bottom of the falls and those reeruns will start tossing kids over the side.

ljmhawk 02-10-2025 09:37 PM

The bills get all their hard games at home next season

Hammock Parties 02-13-2025 09:48 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Cook unfollowed the Bills and removed all his Bills posts. He also changed his pfp which was originally him in a Bills uniform. <a href="https://t.co/snCqZvAb1Y">pic.twitter.com/snCqZvAb1Y</a></p>&mdash; 𝔍𝔬𝔢𝔶𝔇𝔲𝔟🦬 (@17forMVP) <a href="https://twitter.com/17forMVP/status/1889899599739195829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TEX 02-13-2025 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17967316)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Cook unfollowed the Bills and removed all his Bills posts. He also changed his pfp which was originally him in a Bills uniform. <a href="https://t.co/snCqZvAb1Y">pic.twitter.com/snCqZvAb1Y</a></p>&mdash; 𝔍𝔬𝔢𝔶𝔇𝔲𝔟🦬 (@17forMVP) <a href="https://twitter.com/17forMVP/status/1889899599739195829?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'm not following the situation. So what's up with that?

staylor26 02-13-2025 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17967337)
I'm not following the situation. So what's up with that?

He wants to get paid, but this really doesn't mean much.

el borracho 02-13-2025 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17967337)
I'm not following the situation. So what's up with that?

James Cook "Tastes great!"
Sean McDermott "Less filling!"

Sounds irreconcilable.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-13-2025 10:01 AM

His brother Dalvin also has been talking non-stop about him getting paid. It's clearly their main focus.

Cook kept that offense going this year many times. He's become a clone of his brother. If they lose him, it would be a big deal.

Rainbarrel 02-13-2025 10:26 AM

Josh Allen is better than Patrick Mahomes and it ain't even close. Our Joshie doesn't need what frog boy never had

RaidersOftheCellar 02-14-2025 09:55 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As a Josh Allen fan this one is painful. Could have played much better in the playoffs. But didn&#39;t. <a href="https://t.co/NKS2FEXrIW">pic.twitter.com/NKS2FEXrIW</a></p>&mdash; Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1890032283371045132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rainbarrel 02-19-2025 06:30 PM

It appears Mahomes & Lamar will head into the 2025 season with new hair. Burrow will surely dump the frosted look. Does 2BD have artists' renderings of the new Josh look. -Offseasons take time to adjust to

TheGuardian 02-19-2025 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17968595)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As a Josh Allen fan this one is painful. Could have played much better in the playoffs. But didn&#39;t. <a href="https://t.co/NKS2FEXrIW">pic.twitter.com/NKS2FEXrIW</a></p>&mdash; Computer Cowboy (@benbbaldwin) <a href="https://twitter.com/benbbaldwin/status/1890032283371045132?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's pretty crazy because I said the super bowl was just like the Cleveland game except the defense didn't get a bunch of turnovers and sacks.

Rainbarrel 02-22-2025 07:50 AM

Apparently the Rodney Dangerfield of the NFL
 
Buffalo Bills News

Josh Allen can't stop getting disrespected despite winning the NFL MVP, and it's getting really old

I'm running out of ideas as to why people refuse to give Josh Allen the credit that he deserves. The guy finally wins his first NFL MVP, overcoming the "most overrated player" title from last offseason, and now a new ranking has snubbed him once again.

Why do people struggle so mightily with giving Allen respect?

PFF put together their top 101 players from the 2024 season, and the NFL MVP, Josh Allen, was ranked 6th. Hilariously, in their own graphic, they credited him with leading the league in big time throws with 43, while also having the highest rushing grade at the quarterback position at 93.6.

Take PFF grades for what they are, but his rushing grade of 93.6 was second in the entire NFL, running backs included, behind only Derrick Henry's 94.2.

If PFF graded him as the second best rusher in the entire league, while also making an argument for him being an elite passer, all while he was named the NFL MVP, then why is he at 6th in their own rankings? As the kids say, the math ain't mathing.

Josh Allen and the Bills were the only team to beat the Chiefs this season outside of the Philadelphia Eagles beating them in the Super Bowl. Allen also beat the Lions, the No. 1 seed in the NFC in the regular season.

Allen did the most with the least, passing for 4,367 yards and 32 touchdowns despite the team's leading receiver (Khalil Shakir) having only 821 yards. Second on the list was Keon Coleman with 556. See above — the Bills' top receiving duo was far and away the lowest producing duo of any team in the NFL playoffs, and Allen still had that team competing at a championship level.

Please stop besmirching the good name of Josh Allen, guys.

TEX 02-22-2025 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17976453)
Buffalo Bills News

Josh Allen can't stop getting disrespected despite winning the NFL MVP, and it's getting really old

I'm running out of ideas as to why people refuse to give Josh Allen the credit that he deserves. The guy finally wins his first NFL MVP, overcoming the "most overrated player" title from last offseason, and now a new ranking has snubbed him once again.

Why do people struggle so mightily with giving Allen respect?

PFF put together their top 101 players from the 2024 season, and the NFL MVP, Josh Allen, was ranked 6th. Hilariously, in their own graphic, they credited him with leading the league in big time throws with 43, while also having the highest rushing grade at the quarterback position at 93.6.

Take PFF grades for what they are, but his rushing grade of 93.6 was second in the entire NFL, running backs included, behind only Derrick Henry's 94.2.

If PFF graded him as the second best rusher in the entire league, while also making an argument for him being an elite passer, all while he was named the NFL MVP, then why is he at 6th in their own rankings? As the kids say, the math ain't mathing.

Josh Allen and the Bills were the only team to beat the Chiefs this season outside of the Philadelphia Eagles beating them in the Super Bowl. Allen also beat the Lions, the No. 1 seed in the NFC in the regular season.

Allen did the most with the least, passing for 4,367 yards and 32 touchdowns despite the team's leading receiver (Khalil Shakir) having only 821 yards. Second on the list was Keon Coleman with 556. See above — the Bills' top receiving duo was far and away the lowest producing duo of any team in the NFL playoffs, and Allen still had that team competing at a championship level.

Please stop besmirching the good name of Josh Allen, guys.

But what did the Bills do in the playoffs? Lost to the Chiefs AGAIN. That's what matters. The end.

Rainbarrel 02-22-2025 08:02 AM

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-pff-101...024-nfl-season

Lamar at 1 & Burrow at 4 with Allen at 6. Is keeping the Bills warm

RealSNR 02-22-2025 09:37 AM

"Did the most with least"

I'm sick of hearing this shit. He had a very good offensive line, two decent TEs, and a great running game.

Some QBs lay awake at night DREAMING of what Joshy poo was given on offense.

tredadda 02-22-2025 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 17967347)
James Cook "Tastes great!"
Sean McDermott "Less filling!"

Sounds irreconcilable.

This is arguably the most Rainbarrel post from someone not named Rainbarrel I have seen in quite some time.

notorious 02-22-2025 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17976481)
"Did the most with least"

I'm sick of hearing this shit. He had a very good offensive line, two decent TEs, and a great running game.

Some QBs lay awake at night DREAMING of what Joshy poo was given on offense.

One of the top 3 olines in the NFL. Josh has plenty.

TEX 02-22-2025 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17976481)
"Did the most with least"

I'm sick of hearing this shit. He had a very good offensive line, two decent TEs, and a great running game.

Some QBs lay awake at night DREAMING of what Joshy poo was given on offense.

Yep.They have it backwards. Having a very good OL, like the Bills do, makes everything EASIER.

PHOG 02-22-2025 12:12 PM

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39. QB Patrick Mahomes, Kansas City Chiefs
After ranking in the top five of the PFF 101 in each of the previous two seasons, Mahomes saw a notable dip in production and impact during the 2024 campaign, leading to a slight slide. However, he remains one of the best in the game at limiting mistakes—one of the most valuable traits a quarterback can have—ranking in the 82nd percentile in avoiding negative plays.

Pff is shit. ROFL

staylor26 02-22-2025 12:58 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the Buffalo Bills last 5 yrs:<br><br>61 regular season wins (#2 in NFL)<br>7 playoff wins (#2 in NFL)<br><br>but<br><br>0 Conference Championships<br>0 Super Bowls<br><br>who is to blame?<br><br>hint: Josh Allen is the #1 most efficient QB in the playoffs the last 5 yrs<br><br>mind-blowing stats:<a href="https://t.co/OI2pQHh18v">https://t.co/OI2pQHh18v</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1892682823825268836?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shocker, the same bundle of sticks that was pushing the ref narrative is now sucking Josh Allen's dick and defending him like we didn't all watch him fail with the ball in his hands and a chance to win the game for the 2nd year in a row.

DRM08 02-22-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17976604)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">the Buffalo Bills last 5 yrs:<br><br>61 regular season wins (#2 in NFL)<br>7 playoff wins (#2 in NFL)<br><br>but<br><br>0 Conference Championships<br>0 Super Bowls<br><br>who is to blame?<br><br>hint: Josh Allen is the #1 most efficient QB in the playoffs the last 5 yrs<br><br>mind-blowing stats:<a href="https://t.co/OI2pQHh18v">https://t.co/OI2pQHh18v</a></p>&mdash; Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1892682823825268836?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Shocker, the same bundle of sticks that was pushing the ref narrative is now sucking Josh Allen's dick and defending him like we didn't all watch him fail with the ball in his hands and a chance to win the game for the 2nd year in a row.

What's interesting is if you really analyze it closely, Josh and his teammates had about 4 turnover worthy plays in the Playoff game a year ago. This year's Playoff game against KC? Buffalo had 7-8 turnover worthy plays. They magically got away with all of them in BOTH games. It's pretty damn misleading for anyone to bring up efficiency stats while ignoring the luck factor that hides the turnover worthy mistakes.

Somehow in this year's game with 5 fumbles, Buffalo recovered 100% of them. 4 of those fumbles were by the Buffalo offense. A year ago Allen got away with 2 turnover worthy plays on the final drive, in addition to failing to take the easy checkdown for 15 yards with the game on the line. If that was Mahomes, the media would attack him for it instead of giving him a free pass.

Rainbarrel 02-22-2025 04:22 PM

Pro Football Hall of Famer Warren Sapp made more than $58 million during his 13-year NFL career but will earn only $150,000 annually in his new entry-level coaching job at Colorado under head coach Deion Sanders, according to employment documents obtained by USA TODAY Sports," Schrotenboer wrote.Apr 3, 2024

Opportunities must be made sometimes

Rainbarrel 02-22-2025 05:23 PM

On a list of best owners(some odd site)Patriots, Chiefs, Ravens then Bills fourth. This is also going to be seen as disrespectful of Allen's greatness

Rainbarrel 02-22-2025 05:51 PM

This must be the off season theme
 
SI's NFL Power Rankings disrespect Bills in favor of NFC team
The Buffalo Bills finished behind two NFC teams in the post-Super Bowl hierarchy.
Ralph Ventre | Feb 21, 2025

Buffalo Bills

The Buffalo Bills defeated the Detroit Lions on the road late during the regular season and advanced one postseason round further than their NFC North counterpart in 2024.

Considering those facts, it is surprising to see Buffalo ranked behind Detroit in Sports Illustrated's post-Super Bowl LIX Power Rankings. While the world champion Philadelphia Eagles rightfully top the chart, the Lions sit at No. 2 overall ahead of the AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs, who were tabbed third.

The Bills landed at No. 4 in the rankings, one spot ahead of the AFC rival Baltimore Ravens. Buffalo edged Baltimore by two points in last month's AFC Divisional Round affair at Highmark Stadium.

It's certainly understandable for the Bills to rank behind the two current conference champions, but other than the Eagles and the Chiefs, the Bills were arguably the NFL's best in 2024. Buffalo benefitted from a MVP season from quarterback Josh Allen, consistently effective offensive line play and a defense that took the ball away 32 times (third most-frequently in the NFL).

In the head-to-head road win over Detroit, Allen became the first player since the NFL merger to pass for three touchdowns and rush for three touchdowns in the same game.

addition to being tied with the Ravens for the AFC's top point differential (+157), Buffalo defeated both the Lions and the Chiefs during a 13-win regular season that allowed the team to sit its starters in Week 18.

In the end, all that matters is the Bills weren't the one hoisting the Lombardi Trophy in New Orleans. The only spot that truly matters in postseason power rankings is No. 1. Neither Buffalo nor Detroit finished the job.

Coochie liquor 02-23-2025 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17967337)
I'm not following the situation. So what's up with that?

Just read he wants $15 million a year.

RealSNR 02-23-2025 10:22 AM

The Bills and their dick suckers in the media constantly act like winning shit in the regular season means anything.

"But they beat the Chiefs!"

How well has that worked out for them?

RedinTexas 02-23-2025 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17976788)
SI's NFL Power Rankings disrespect Bills in favor of NFC team
The Buffalo Bills finished behind two NFC teams in the post-Super Bowl hierarchy.
Ralph Ventre | Feb 21, 2025

Buffalo Bills

The Buffalo Bills defeated the Detroit Lions on the road late during the regular season and advanced one postseason round further than their NFC North counterpart in 2024.

Considering those facts, it is surprising to see Buffalo ranked behind Detroit in Sports Illustrated's post-Super Bowl LIX Power Rankings. While the world champion Philadelphia Eagles rightfully top the chart, the Lions sit at No. 2 overall ahead of the AFC champion Kansas City Chiefs, who were tabbed third.

The Bills landed at No. 4 in the rankings, one spot ahead of the AFC rival Baltimore Ravens. Buffalo edged Baltimore by two points in last month's AFC Divisional Round affair at Highmark Stadium.

It's certainly understandable for the Bills to rank behind the two current conference champions, but other than the Eagles and the Chiefs, the Bills were arguably the NFL's best in 2024. Buffalo benefitted from a MVP season from quarterback Josh Allen, consistently effective offensive line play and a defense that took the ball away 32 times (third most-frequently in the NFL).

In the head-to-head road win over Detroit, Allen became the first player since the NFL merger to pass for three touchdowns and rush for three touchdowns in the same game.

addition to being tied with the Ravens for the AFC's top point differential (+157), Buffalo defeated both the Lions and the Chiefs during a 13-win regular season that allowed the team to sit its starters in Week 18.

In the end, all that matters is the Bills weren't the one hoisting the Lombardi Trophy in New Orleans. The only spot that truly matters in postseason power rankings is No. 1. Neither Buffalo nor Detroit finished the job.

It's interesting that they point out the "disrespect" for the Lions being ranked ahead of the Bills, but not the "disrespect" of the Lions being ranked ahead of the Chiefs. Maybe because as Chiefs fans we don't really care, but the Bills fans do care because they're not getting the respect of having won the SB.

And, as SNR pointed out,

The football media seems to lack any understanding of the difference between the regular season and the playoffs. You only go all out to win a game in the regular season if your season depends upon it. If it doesn't, you don't sacrifice everything for the sake of that one game. I guess some coaches can take that approach, but it's not a good idea.

OTOH, once you're in the playoffs, your season is hanging in the balance in every single game. This is where you do whatever it takes to win because there is no next week for the loser.

Some of these people need to learn the concept of a "pyrrhic victory."

KCBlitz 02-23-2025 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17977139)
It's interesting that they point out the "disrespect" for the Lions being ranked ahead of the Bills, but not the "disrespect" of the Lions being ranked ahead of the Chiefs. Maybe because as Chiefs fans we don't really care, but the Bills fans do care because they're not getting the respect of having won the SB.

And, as SNR pointed out,

The football media seems to lack any understanding of the difference between the regular season and the playoffs. You only go all out to win a game in the regular season if your season depends upon it. If it doesn't, you don't sacrifice everything for the sake of that one game. I guess some coaches can take that approach, but it's not a good idea.

OTOH, once you're in the playoffs, your season is hanging in the balance in every single game. This is where you do whatever it takes to win because there is no next week for the loser.

Some of these people need to learn the concept of a "pyrrhic victory."

Reid coached the Super Bowl like there’s a game the week after.

RedinTexas 02-23-2025 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17977150)
Reid coached the Super Bowl like there’s a game the week after.

There was plenty of blame to go around. Reid has proven himself to be an excellent coach. We can learn the lessons of why we lost without unnecessarily heaping blame onto any one person.

KCBlitz 02-23-2025 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17977189)
There was plenty of blame to go around. Reid has proven himself to be an excellent coach. We can learn the lessons of why we lost without unnecessarily heaping blame onto any one person.

I agree. I was pointing out that Reid has done similar things that you posted about other coaches.

RealSNR 02-23-2025 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17977219)
I agree. I was pointing out that Reid has done similar things that you posted about other coaches.


It’s not about the coaching, really. Every brilliant coach in history has had massive ****ups. Whatever.

It’s more about a prevailing attitude in the organization and the media surrounding them that the team is OWED success in some way.

“What do you mean they’re making us play mistake-free football?! We beat all those great teams in the regular season already!”

KCBlitz 02-23-2025 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17977250)
It’s not about the coaching, really. Every brilliant coach in history has had massive ****ups. Whatever.

It’s more about a prevailing attitude in the organization and the media surrounding them that the team is OWED success in some way.

“What do you mean they’re making us play mistake-free football?! We beat all those great teams in the regular season already!”

Their fans are definitely on board with this delusion.

Coochie liquor 02-23-2025 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17977340)
Their fans are definitely on board with this delusion.

Before the AFCCG all I heard was how they would be ok with losing because this was supposedly a step back year. Then after taking the L AGAIN, they were heart broken and thought this was somehow their “best shot” despite them getting us at home last year.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-23-2025 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 17977372)
Before the AFCCG all I heard was how they would be ok with losing because this was supposedly a step back year. Then after taking the L AGAIN, they were heart broken and thought this was somehow their “best shot” despite them getting us at home last year.

People love to point out that this was a reset year for Buffalo and cling to it as a beacon of optimism for years ahead.

The difference between their little rebuild and Kansas City’s post-Tyreek is the Chiefs actually improved the roster. The 2022 class came at the perfect time.

Buffalo lost a lot of vets last spring, but the problem I see is they didn’t supplement with many quality long term solutions. Now this is going to be another spring of departing veteran talent, and if you continue to miss in the draft…

You’ll find out what a real rebuild year looks like.

Deberg_1990 02-23-2025 03:21 PM

They have Joshua Alllen and a good Oline. They will be in contention every year as long as that’s truth.

Rainbarrel 02-23-2025 03:25 PM

It derails the bought ref talk. Which would lead to their front office being bought. As that looks to have a stronger case

Coochie liquor 02-23-2025 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17977380)
People love to point out that this was a reset year for Buffalo and cling to it as a beacon of optimism for years ahead.

The difference between their little rebuild and Kansas City’s post-Tyreek is the Chiefs actually improved the roster. The 2022 class came at the perfect time.

Buffalo lost a lot of vets last spring, but the problem I see is they didn’t supplement with many quality long term solutions. Now this is going to be another spring of departing veteran talent, and if you continue to miss in the draft…

You’ll find out what a real rebuild year looks like.

I’d say this season is a potential reset year for KC as well. The thing with Mahomes and Josh are they can still carry a team through it. Lucky for Buffalol they still have a dysfunctional division. Ours is gonna be a bit more difficult than we’ve encountering in the Mahomes era.


I’m just hoping we didn’t lose a very important cog in our scouting department with Borgonzi. Veach hasn’t been great at drafting OL, or DL overall. But has made up for it in other areas. But also we have some HOF, and elite coaches that have probably helped to get the most out of some of the lesser players that have worked out for us.

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 09:22 AM

Does anyone try to get the rules changed more than Buffalol? Guess they think they may have to face the Eagles next season?

Sean McDermott expresses safety concerns about the “tush push”
Of all NFL teams, the Eagles and the Bills have made the most effective use of the so-called “tush push” play. And, at a time when the Packers have proposed a rule prohibiting the move, Buffalo coach Sean McDermott has expressed concerns about the technique.

“To me, there’s always been an injury risk with that play, and I’ve expressed that opinion for the last couple of years or so when it really started to come into play the way it’s being used, especially a year ago,” McDermott said Monday, via Alaina Getzenberg of ESPN.com. “So, I just feel like, player safety, and the health and safety of our players has to be at the top of our game, which it is. It’s just that play to me has always been . . . or the way that the techniques that are used with that play, to me have been potentially contrary to the health and safety of the players. And so again, you have to go back though in fairness to the injury data on the play, but I just think the optics of it, I’m not in love with.”

McDermott is a member of the Competition Committee, which gives him a direct avenue for raising those concerns. The fact that his team uses it gives his position more credibility than a team that doesn’t.

Via Getzenberg, the Eagles and Bills have used the play 163 tush pushes over the past three seasons; that’s more than the rest of the league combined. Philadelphia and Buffalo have scored a touchdown or gained a first down 87 percent of the time. The rest of the league has a 71-percent success rate.

“We do it a little bit different than other teams,” McDermott said. “One team in particular, who does it a certain way, that’s the one that is really, there’s just so much force behind that player, but yeah, you try and keep . . . not try, you make number one always everything we do, fundamentals, what we teach technique, in this case, what we ask our players to do, health and safety number one.”

In the end, the rule allowing players to push the ballcarrier from behind will remain on the books unless and until 24 or more teams vote to change it.

htismaqe 02-25-2025 09:23 AM

He's actually right this time. The tush push presents a real player safety issue. It should be banned.

Coochie liquor 02-25-2025 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17978970)
He's actually right this time. The tush push presents a real player safety issue. It should be banned.

I’m 100% behind it as well. Just saying seems they constantly try to change rules. Will be interesting to see how Philly looks without the option of using it. That play is almost guaranteed when they run it, and that’s an easy call for Sirianni. But if it’s off the table, how does he react?

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17978970)
He's actually right this time. The tush push presents a real player safety issue. It should be banned.

If Allen wouldn't have gotten stuffed on it twice (3 times?) McDermott wouldn't have shit to say about it.

The Bills are just ridiculous hypocrites with this stuff.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2025 11:59 AM

15 million a year for a guy who scored 4 TD LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> and WR Khalil Shakir agreed to terms on a 4-year contract extension worth up to $60.2M, including $32M guaranteed at signing, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>Deal negotiated by <a href="https://twitter.com/EquitySports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EquitySports</a> Co-Directors of Football Sam Mirza and Derek Hawkridge along with CEO Chris Cabott. <a href="https://t.co/aSxpLmRVbF">pic.twitter.com/aSxpLmRVbF</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1894443494313164885?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

htismaqe 02-25-2025 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17979147)
If Allen wouldn't have gotten stuffed on it twice (3 times?) McDermott wouldn't have shit to say about it.

The Bills are just ridiculous hypocrites with this stuff.

Oh I know they are. But the enemy of your enemy is your friend. The tush push needs to be banned. How it happens is immaterial to me.

RealSNR 02-25-2025 01:13 PM

If they keep it in, it’s absolute bullshit that the offense is allowed to push players but the defense isn’t.

They’ll never let the defense match force with force because “that would be dangerous!” so they need to scrap the whole thing.

Either you care about player safety or you don’t, NFL. Pick one

MahomesMagic 02-25-2025 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17979204)
15 million a year for a guy who scored 4 TD LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> and WR Khalil Shakir agreed to terms on a 4-year contract extension worth up to $60.2M, including $32M guaranteed at signing, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>Deal negotiated by <a href="https://twitter.com/EquitySports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EquitySports</a> Co-Directors of Football Sam Mirza and Derek Hawkridge along with CEO Chris Cabott. <a href="https://t.co/aSxpLmRVbF">pic.twitter.com/aSxpLmRVbF</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1894443494313164885?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



He's their main target.


My guess is they let Cooper walk.

duncan_idaho 02-25-2025 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17979382)
If they keep it in, it’s absolute bullshit that the offense is allowed to push players but the defense isn’t.

They’ll never let the defense match force with force because “that would be dangerous!” so they need to scrap the whole thing.

Either you care about player safety or you don’t, NFL. Pick one

This is where I have landed.

The QB sneak is a legitimate play.

The QB shove with multiple offensive players shoving the ball carrier is not, as the offense gains a significant advantage there (the ability to push from behind) that the defense cannot match.

DJ's left nut 02-25-2025 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17979382)
If they keep it in, it’s absolute bullshit that the offense is allowed to push players but the defense isn’t.

They’ll never let the defense match force with force because “that would be dangerous!” so they need to scrap the whole thing.

Either you care about player safety or you don’t, NFL. Pick one

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17979482)
This is where I have landed.

The QB sneak is a legitimate play.

The QB shove with multiple offensive players shoving the ball carrier is not, as the offense gains a significant advantage there (the ability to push from behind) that the defense cannot match.

Another really good argument I've heard on it is that its impossible to officiate.

You really can't make a forward progress call and determine with any certainty when/where it was stopped. You can't even SEE the ballcarrier most of the time.

The league had it right when they outlawed that 'assistance' stuff and for whatever reason got away from it. I don't get it.

Rausch 02-25-2025 05:26 PM

We're good guys.

Check this out.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xzP4yUgzXLc

DRM08 02-25-2025 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17979204)
15 million a year for a guy who scored 4 TD LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> and WR Khalil Shakir agreed to terms on a 4-year contract extension worth up to $60.2M, including $32M guaranteed at signing, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>Deal negotiated by <a href="https://twitter.com/EquitySports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EquitySports</a> Co-Directors of Football Sam Mirza and Derek Hawkridge along with CEO Chris Cabott. <a href="https://t.co/aSxpLmRVbF">pic.twitter.com/aSxpLmRVbF</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1894443494313164885?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He's a pretty solid player. The receiver market is soon gonna be $40M per year with JaMarr Chase, so $15M per year doesn't seem that crazy for Shakir.

Hammock Parties 02-25-2025 07:40 PM

I think it's a pretty bad contract when you're $10 million over the cap LMAO

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/buffalo-bills

Rainbarrel 02-25-2025 07:43 PM

MVP pushes Allen into a new deal. Couple years of cheap Josh

Buehler445 02-26-2025 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17978970)
He's actually right this time. The tush push presents a real player safety issue. It should be banned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17979147)
If Allen wouldn't have gotten stuffed on it twice (3 times?) McDermott wouldn't have shit to say about it.

The Bills are just ridiculous hypocrites with this stuff.

Came here to post this. Or maybe Allen got hurt when their ****tard asses failed against us.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17979382)
If they keep it in, it’s absolute bullshit that the offense is allowed to push players but the defense isn’t.

They’ll never let the defense match force with force because “that would be dangerous!” so they need to scrap the whole thing.

Either you care about player safety or you don’t, NFL. Pick one

They did pick.

They give absolutely less than no ****s about any player safety unless it's a QB. What they care about is selling a thing veneer of caring to not drive off casual fans. We are here for the duration. The half ass tune in on Sundays people that are quick to shut off if their feelings get hurt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17979482)
This is where I have landed.

The QB sneak is a legitimate play.

The QB shove with multiple offensive players shoving the ball carrier is not, as the offense gains a significant advantage there (the ability to push from behind) that the defense cannot match.

This is probably where it needs to be.

ThaVirus 02-26-2025 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17979204)
15 million a year for a guy who scored 4 TD LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> and WR Khalil Shakir agreed to terms on a 4-year contract extension worth up to $60.2M, including $32M guaranteed at signing, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>.<br><br>Deal negotiated by <a href="https://twitter.com/EquitySports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@EquitySports</a> Co-Directors of Football Sam Mirza and Derek Hawkridge along with CEO Chris Cabott. <a href="https://t.co/aSxpLmRVbF">pic.twitter.com/aSxpLmRVbF</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1894443494313164885?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

At one point during the season Shakir was top 3 in RAC. He’s also Allen’s favorite target.

$15m is a steal for a good WR these days anyway. IIRC, Christian Kirk got like $17m/year four years ago.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-26-2025 08:19 AM

I won’t pretend that isn’t a solid deal for Buffalo. They get their money’s worth if he plays like he did last year.

ThaVirus 02-26-2025 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17980136)
I won’t pretend that isn’t a solid deal for Buffalo. They get their money’s worth if he plays like he did last year.

This is it. I don’t know why we even bother getting riled up either way about these deals.

We won’t know if it was a good decision for another few years.

Rainbarrel 02-26-2025 08:40 AM

The Christian Benford concussion just fades into the fog

Rainbarrel 02-26-2025 06:58 PM

Bart Vorch on line one Mr Beane
 
Bills GM Brandon Beane lets NFL teams know he is open for business in potential blockbuster trade

fans have been devising mock trades for superstar edge rushers since the NFL season ended. More specifically, since Cleveland Browns star Myles Garrett requested a trade.

A star the caliber of a former Defensive Player of the Year would certainly not come cheap on the trade market, but we've seen Beane and the Bills get aggressive when it comes to making big trades. The Bills traded their first-round pick in a package to the Minnesota Vikings in exchange for Stefon Diggs in 2020, and that obviously brought great results with it. Would Beane be willing to make another splash trade like that again? According to the general manager himself, the answer is yes.

Speaking at the NFL Combine on Tuesday, Beane was asked if he would be willing to trade the Bills' first-round pick in any potential trades this offseason.

"Anything that can help our roster, yes," Beane said.

For Buffalo fans wanting to see that big potential deal for Myles Garrett or Micah Parsons, hearing that the Bills would listen to anything even if it involves trading their first-round pick will get them very excited.

staylor26 02-26-2025 07:43 PM

LMAO

The Myles Garrett trade isn't happening. It just makes no sense from Cleveland's side. They would reportedly have to cut/trade other good players too just to make the trade work.

RedinTexas 02-28-2025 08:46 AM

It has always seemed to me like the Bills fans hatred of the Chiefs was a little overwrought. It's a bit more understandable now given the number of times we've beaten them in the playoffs recently, but in previous years it seemed overblown.

I was watching some videos of the Royals 2015 World Series run and it occurred to me what a big part of the reason is. Bills fans are mostly the same people as Blue Jays fans. They double hate us because of both the Royals and the Chiefs. I know this is not any keen insight, but having not really thought about it before, it helps to make more sense of the vitriol.

Coochie liquor 02-28-2025 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17980889)
Bills GM Brandon Beane lets NFL teams know he is open for business in potential blockbuster trade

fans have been devising mock trades for superstar edge rushers since the NFL season ended. More specifically, since Cleveland Browns star Myles Garrett requested a trade.

A star the caliber of a former Defensive Player of the Year would certainly not come cheap on the trade market, but we've seen Beane and the Bills get aggressive when it comes to making big trades. The Bills traded their first-round pick in a package to the Minnesota Vikings in exchange for Stefon Diggs in 2020, and that obviously brought great results with it. Would Beane be willing to make another splash trade like that again? According to the general manager himself, the answer is yes.

Speaking at the NFL Combine on Tuesday, Beane was asked if he would be willing to trade the Bills' first-round pick in any potential trades this offseason.

"Anything that can help our roster, yes," Beane said.

For Buffalo fans wanting to see that big potential deal for Myles Garrett or Micah Parsons, hearing that the Bills would listen to anything even if it involves trading their first-round pick will get them very excited.

Browns will make them take Watson and his guaranteed salary for Myles.

But really, what amazing player aside from Josh do the Bills have to offer? Who’s their McDuffie, or CJ95, or Rice/Worthy lol? Who’s their bargaining piece player?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-08-2025 08:55 PM

So, how does everyone feel about Buffalo’s offseason so far? Going to try to be as unbiased as I can be.

Let me start with what I like. I do think IF you’re set on paying your draft picks, you’ll generally come out ahead extending them early which is Beane’s fastball as a GM it seems. He really has a knack for getting his guys extended at reasonable contracts before they start the contract year.

However… because that’s his fastball, this has been an extremely predictable start to free agency for them. He extends Shakir ($15M per), Bernard ($12.5M per), and now Rousseau ($20M per). $47.5M in AAV value over the next three years.

Where I take issue is his approach has an insanity feel to it — that meaning, this is how he’s always built their teams and to date it’s never been good enough to get them over the hump.

Why not take some more risks? Why not explore what you could get back in trades for more players?

Maybe I sound petty — I just believe it’s a risky at best move to bring back a bunch of guys who haven’t done anything but fail vs. the Chiefs so far. And that matters. Because every year in the playoffs they meet again, it’s a bunch of guys who probably question if they even can beat Kansas City.

TLDR; I think Beane’s approach is a benefit to Kansas City.

MahomesMagic 03-08-2025 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17980134)
At one point during the season Shakir was top 3 in RAC. He’s also Allen’s favorite target.

$15m is a steal for a good WR these days anyway. IIRC, Christian Kirk got like $17m/year four years ago.

Shakir was my guy the year we drafted Skyy.


He's not elite but he's a dog.

Chris Meck 03-08-2025 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17992927)
So, how does everyone feel about Buffalo’s offseason so far? Going to try to be as unbiased as I can be.

Let me start with what I like. I do think IF you’re set on paying your draft picks, you’ll generally come out ahead extending them early which is Beane’s fastball as a GM it seems. He really has a knack for getting his guys extended at reasonable contracts before they start the contract year.

However… because that’s his fastball, this has been an extremely predictable start to free agency for them. He extends Shakir ($15M per), Bernard ($12.5M per), and now Rousseau ($20M per). $47.5M in AAV value over the next three years.

Where I take issue is his approach has an insanity feel to it — that meaning, this is how he’s always built their teams and to date it’s never been good enough to get them over the hump.

Why not take some more risks? Why not explore what you could get back in trades for more players?

Maybe I sound petty — I just believe it’s a risky at best move to bring back a bunch of guys who haven’t done anything but fail vs. the Chiefs so far. And that matters. Because every year in the playoffs they meet again, it’s a bunch of guys who probably question if they even can beat Kansas City.

TLDR; I think Beane’s approach is a benefit to Kansas City.

Man, they're damned close, though. I don't think I'd do anything drastically different. What they need is ONE really good draft and they could close the gap.

RealSNR 03-08-2025 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17992927)
So, how does everyone feel about Buffalo’s offseason so far? Going to try to be as unbiased as I can be.

Let me start with what I like. I do think IF you’re set on paying your draft picks, you’ll generally come out ahead extending them early which is Beane’s fastball as a GM it seems. He really has a knack for getting his guys extended at reasonable contracts before they start the contract year.

However… because that’s his fastball, this has been an extremely predictable start to free agency for them. He extends Shakir ($15M per), Bernard ($12.5M per), and now Rousseau ($20M per). $47.5M in AAV value over the next three years.

Where I take issue is his approach has an insanity feel to it — that meaning, this is how he’s always built their teams and to date it’s never been good enough to get them over the hump.

Why not take some more risks? Why not explore what you could get back in trades for more players?

Maybe I sound petty — I just believe it’s a risky at best move to bring back a bunch of guys who haven’t done anything but fail vs. the Chiefs so far. And that matters. Because every year in the playoffs they meet again, it’s a bunch of guys who probably question if they even can beat Kansas City.

TLDR; I think Beane’s approach is a benefit to Kansas City.

Lol at Rousseau for $20 million per.

May as well be Jean Jacques Rousseau

ThyKingdomCome15 03-09-2025 01:38 AM

I like to think I'm not bias when making my Super Bowl predictions before the season starts. I have to see the full off-season before I stamp it. I had it right last year and if the season started today I'd say we're neck and neck with the Bills. If Lamar didn't have a dismal Playoff record I'd put them up there too.( Fortunately our defense still looks pretty good despite potentially losing Bolton.)

At a minimum the left side of our OL needs answers and fast.

Rausch 03-09-2025 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17993056)
I like to think I'm not bias...

You're not.

Sleep well.

Rainbarrel 03-09-2025 07:15 AM

Perhaps Beane's problem is that their media and fans. Hope he can swing another Stephon Diggs trade. Someone should take them back step by step and explain how this is not something to aspire too

RedinTexas 03-09-2025 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17993087)
Perhaps Beane's problem is that their media and fans. Hope he can swing another Stephon Diggs trade. Someone should take them back step by step and explain how this is not something to aspire too

Something tells me that no amount of calm rationale is going to get Bills fans to step back and take a realistic look at things.

They could learn a few things from Chiefs fans. All we expect is a Super Bowl appearance every year and winning it about 70% of the time.

RunKC 03-09-2025 07:39 AM

The deals they did for Bernard, Rousseau and Shakir were excellent value deals that were by no means overpays.

That’s one thing Veach needs to work on


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