This could get ugly for Texas. The Longhorns would've really damaged the conference by going to be Pac-10. NU and CU protected themselves by leaving.

You poor victim.

I agree with both points.

1) Losing UNL/CU didn't damamge the conference in sports. Especially CBB


2) Pay up.

Sam, only two years after being a ticket taker at a Lee's Summit theater is now waxing rhapsodic about conference law. Gotta love huskerpediophiles.

Unfortunately for you, the contract does not say "you will be responsible for any damages you cause by leaving up to x%" it basically says "by joining the conference, you agree in advance that leaving under these circumstances will result in financial damages, and therefore such and such will happen"

Damages do not necessarily have to be proven because Nebraska already agreed back in 1996 that if they ever left it would result in damages.

3.3 goes on and on from there, but the remaining legalese isn't important. I suppose Nebraska could try to make an equity argument that this would be "unjust enrichment". I'm not a lawyer, but good luck with that.

CU to the Pac-10 is still absolutely hilarious.

On what basis?

What does any of that have to do with anything?

OU's Ad on the radio yesterday was talking about the penalty they had both had to pay for leaving the conference...

Sounds like bitter jilted fan to me... NU left by their own will, nobody forced them to leave... So its time to pay up.

Works for me!

They are stipulated damages. Nebraska and Colorado already agreed by signing the contract that leaving would cause damage (whether it actually ends up doing so or not) and that that the compensation for that damage would be as indicated in the contract.

Edit: As Alnorth already said...

Compelling? Yes. "In the history of college football"? Probably not.

Precisely. I'm fine with the use of the word 'compelling' as long as the preceding 'most' and trailing 'in the history of college football' are removed.

Also, the money doesn't really come in the form of payments so much as from revenue the Big12 withholds from CU/NU, right? So, the money WILL be withheld, and they'd have to go to court to get it back.

Yep. The only chance I think they would have (again, not a lawyer) is to make an equity argument that this clause is so grossly unfair that it would lead to unjust enrichment.

As I understand it, "equity" is an unpredictable squirrelly area of the law that tries to address something that is blatantly unfair no matter what the contract may say. For example, if your cell phone contract had a termination penalty of 10 million dollars buried in the fine print, that would get thrown out because of equity. (the "damage" to the cell phone company is clearly nowhere close to 10 million dollars, and the fee is hilariously high)

However, this is the University of Nebraska we are talking about here. Not some little old lady suckered into a bad contract by an unethical salesman. They have access to some of the best legal advice in the country. Plus, the "damages" in the contract do not sound highly unreasonable to me that it would trigger an equity argument. Damages are uncertain, and forgoing a share of revenue for 1 or 2 years sounds like a reasonable remedy.

No, more like eastern Coloradans are likely to root for Kansas.

Believe me, I'm one of them, and I grew up in the 80's watching Kansas basketball.

And we care how you feel about it?

Chip Brown hasn't really been wrong about any of this, has he?

I don't see why he is even participating in this thread, other than his inability to resist constantly declaring the SEC the greatest football entity in the history of entities.

I think he has some sort of Florida/SEC tourettes.

IDK? especially when 99% of the posters in here probably doesnt give a shit if the SEC existed or not...

I know I dont.

Petro repeating exactly what I've been saying about the myth of football revenue.

Obviously.

Do you lack mental capacity? There were rumors and scenarios about every BCS conference, including the SEC.

You should probably consider that the killshot on that particular theory.

Fail

Yes. You fail. Thanks for playing.

Maybe...even probably not. I do think adding Notre Dame would make it the "most" compelling conference, since the author is essentially using the term as a synonym for "interesting."

And, historically, there's probably an argument there.

This thread gets less AWESOME every time DaKCManAP posts.

/sigh

Why because I could care less if the SEC fell off the map or not? Or that SEC means absolutely nothing to us as fans of the big 12?

You fail in that you do care how I feel about it, and my participation in this thread, otherwise you wouldn't even respond to my post. You also fail at the English language and at the fact that the SEC does mean something to fans of Oklahoma and Texas, without whom there would not be a Big XII.

By the way, you're the only one bringing up the SEC today.

Of course. Never mind the numbers. It's a myth.

Oh, no doubt Notre Dame joining would make it the most compelling right now. That would be huge.

i found your victim

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Funny, OKC sports radio has been talking about OU and Texas for days now and the SEC isnt brought up.... Alot of the people I work with are OU fans, lots of clients OU fans... Sorry, but people here in Norman OK dont really care about the SEC, yes it was a small blip on the radar for a day or so, but 90% of the "fans" had zero interest in the SEC. Including my boss who is an OU grad. SEC doesnt mean shit to him either...

I'm not talking about expansion and current radio talk. A&M had more talk going on about the SEC than OU and UT with respect to expansion. I was talking in general terms. Like OU and UT might have a couple championships if it weren't for the SEC.

Yeah. Except for the whole, they didn't leave thing.

Sam Hall is having one of his silly moments.

I don't really care about all this.

Agreed. UT and OU are compelling football, the rest of those schlunkos don't mean a thing to me.
ND is old news. If the domers don't get to a BCS bowl in the next year or two they are going to fall even further off the table.
Arkansas? Are you kidding me? Those games can only be watched on a TV that works which is perched atop a TV that does not work.

Lew on 810 right now, impressively competing with Alden for most inept AD in the midwest.

Iowa.

LOL.

What's he saying, brah?

Flat earther are you?

Love everyone. Great job. Love the Big 12. Our chancellor is a rock star. Beebe, awesome.

Truly an embarrassing display, but nothing we haven't just seen from Mizzou.

Keep barking little doggy; all that UT spunk in your stomach is making you feel like a big dog.

"We would be willing to help subsidize...three schools [UT, OU, A&M]...IF, if, those three schools don't meet 'the big whole number.' If you don't make it on your own, we'd be willing to share with you, out of our basket."

"We know who the driving schools are."

Texas doesn't think they will need help.

Lew: "At the end of the day there is a possibility we might have to give a bit, or we might not have to give them anything. But we guarantee you, if you're not able to get that number."

I'm not barking, why would I bark? I'm just pointing out the absurdity of you saying anything about any other school being an Iowa fan.

"You stay with us, the worst that could happen is that you could make that number."

No definition of "that number."

10-year commitment to conference, per Lew.

"Problems trying to get to another conference because we're chained to K-State."

(Ok, that one's bullshit.)

Our school did what they had to. Not much else that could've been done, I guess.

"I'm the half-cup guy."

??

Lew loves him some K-State. If he has to go to war he's rollin with John Currie!! :D

Man I've never heard so much slurping, reach arounds, and bromances among rivals! :)

"Don't think about liquidating damages; it's a non-factor."

"It's not a factor at all."

Deez just curious bro.........do you have a job or just independently wealthy as you're able to be the CP updater of updater's? Of course we all appreciate your efforts........just curious.

I have two alternatives when I have a birthday:

"One is to have a birthday; the other is not to have a birthday."

Of course I don't work, brah. I have parents.

And I'm in my 50s.

Wow...uh...you go, Lew!

ROFL Second tier gimp school talking smack. Cute. Did UT give you permission to post that?

How many times are you going to use that line? Like I said earlier, I'm not talking smack, I'm just pointing out that you're a fan of one of the most obscure big schools in the country and, as such, probably shouldn't be talking smack at all.

Whatever makes you feel better junior.

You think this makes me feel better? Nah, like I said earlier, I'm just pointing out how reeruned you are in every possible way. Your retorts always consist of some stupid cliche that is completely irrelevant (kind of like billay) which further proves my point. You're just a fat troll who provides absolutely no value.

Lew has lost his ****ing mind! What the hell was that? Rambling........blah, blah, blah'dee, blah, blah, liquidation, no your not hearing me, blah, blah, we're not touching that money, LISTEN TO WHAT I'M SAYING!!!!! Good God I hope K-State doesn't have a presser. Everyone of these schools that have had an apocalypse averted press conference has been an unmitigated disaster. Stop talking!!!

Just issue a joint statement amongst the 5 schools that were almost left pissing in the wind. "Thank you Texas!! Nevermind all that shit we said about you being a bunch greedy cheating cocksmoking cousin ****ers. WE LOVE YOU!!!"

Looks like somebody living in Hicktown, USA has his labia in a twist. Perhaps UT will give you permission apply some bag balm to Bevo as a way to calm you down.

50's? I would have never guessed. You have the posting style of a witty, young, early-to-mid-20's, super-cool guy like me.

Read what Willie said. Nevermind just go back to politics you goon.

Ohhh look it's Metro policing the internets. If everyone is reeruned as you claim your life must be tragic. You sit around all day pointing this shit out go get a job or is the interviewer turned off by the pink shirt?

Cliff's Notes version: Lew Perkins press conference, 6/16/2010
Blog: The Newell Post
By Jesse Newell
June 16, 2010
Here is the Cliff's Notes version of Kansas athletic director Lew Perkins' comments at his press conference today.

Full audio will be posted later.

• Perkins says KU is unbelievably happy that all 10 schools were able to stay together in the Big 12. There's lots of value in that.

• In Perkins' opinion, it is one of the greatest things to happen in intercollegiate athletics in a long time. Ten is a great number for the Big 12. Some things are still unanswered, and the league is trying to work through those as quickly as possible. Basically, it's like starting a new conference with all the details that still need to be worked out. This will not be finished for a long time.

• One of the questions he gets asked most is about the conference name. Perkins doesn't know the answer, and he believes everyone in the league will have to talk about whether a name change is needed.

• Though he thinks many of the reporters will want to know about the numbers, Perkins doesn't have completely accurate numbers right now. Things could change over time. He doesn't think any Big 12 schools would have accurate numbers right now.

• No one in the Big 12 is interested in expansion right now. The schools like having 10 teams. Perkins believes that perhaps this could start a trend for schools to go smaller. KU coach Bill Self said it well yesterday when he talked about the new Big 12 being like the old Big Eight.

• KU worked hard behind the scenes to keep this thing together. There are always going to be disagreements. That's never going to go away. But Perkins came away thinking this was the best thing for the Big 12, for the 10 teams still involved and for intercollegiate athletics.

• Perkins believes the basketball league will be stronger.

• Perkins said he kept KU's coaches in the loop throughout the process as much as he could.

• Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe deserves to be thanked. He has been blamed for a lot of things, but he and his staff might have saved intercollegiate athletics as we see it today. Perkins doesn't think the change would have been best for the student athletes involved.

• KU chancellor Bernadette Gray-Little was a watchdog, and she and Perkins were in constant contact through the whole process.

• If Perkins ever had to "go to war," he'd want to do so with Kansas State's president Kirk Schulz and KSU athletic director John Currie. Everything between KU and KSU was done step in step.

• As the five "leftover" Big 12 schools looked at things — Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor and Missouri — they came up with a business plan to try to keep the Big 12 together. Perkins compared it to a starting five of players and an institution trying to keep a good basketball coach. The schools knew what the other schools were being offered by other conferences.

• The five leftover schools then tried to figure out what they had to do to keep those other schools on board. Perkins said that the five leftover schools agreed to help subsidize the other three schools — Texas, Oklahoma and Texas A&M — if they didn't make a certain number of dollars. The "leftovers" were going to make more money with 10 teams in the Big 12 than if they were left on their own. At the end of the day, the leftover schools might have to pay a little bit, and they might not have to pay anything. Those leftover schools will guarantee, though, that those other schools would make at least what they would have made elsewhere.

• The five leftover schools hope they won't have to give additional funds to the other three schools. That's not guaranteed, though. Time will tell. The agreement just allows the leftover schools to guarantee that the Big 12 schools that were thinking about leaving, even with a worst-case scenario, will make at least as much money as they would have made in other conferences.

• The Big 12 schools signed an agreement to stay in the conference 10 years. If other things happen, it could be longer. Perkins says he has no reason to fear that any other Big 12 team will bolt on the league. All indications are that the teams are in the Big 12 for the long haul.

• Perkins says his only concern was the Big 12 during the process. His only concern now is the Big 12. He won't address the other hypotheticals and things that might have taken place in previous weeks. Everything else is meaningless now.

• Perkins says not to focus on liquidating damages. It's a non-factor in this whole situation.

• Perkins says it doesn't matter if this situation could have been averted. It doesn't matter now. There are a lot of coulda, woulda, shouldas. Things happen. Everybody wants to point a finger at somebody. Perkins says he's not going to worry about yesterday. He feels good that the 10 teams are in this for the long haul.

• Perkins' guess is that it's going to take a year to put everything in the Big 12 back together, because the conference is starting at zero.

• Scheduling is very important, but no one has gotten that far yet.

I'm at work, but that's a pretty funny post nonetheless. And not everyone is reeruned.

;)

I guess I might have one of those job things, too.

Metro is Skip's only son.

Just in case you are keeping score of who has been a douche in this thread... this may help you clear it up.

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I win I win! Or is the douche the one with a thousand twitter friends who likes to stalk me?

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55k. :D And I just like to make idiots feel stupid. I trust it's working.

When Perkins was giving that presser did any UT spunk leak out of his mouth or had he manged to swallow by then?

LMAO

I'm pretty sure billay is desensitized to that feeling by now.

Seriously what's up with your fascination with sperm in male mouths? Jesus.

I thought about saying that but I didn't think Deez was self-referential enough.

I'm pretty sure my avatar is one of the most hilarious ones in the history of ChiefsPlanet.

It's the thought that counts.