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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052370)

We are paid Thuney, Taylor and Kelce a lot of money. I'm not saying we should have cut Kelce, but choosing Kelce over Trent Williams is a decision.

100 GMs out of 100 would have paid Kelce over Trent in that situation to play with Mahomes.

Don't even try to act like that was a controversial decision.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052370)

We are paid Thuney, Taylor and Kelce a lot of money. I'm not saying we should have cut Kelce, but choosing Kelce over Trent Williams is a decision.

Personally i do not thiink that Trent was ever coming to KC. He most likely was using the Chiefs to get the 49ers offer a little higher.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052370)

We are paid Thuney, Taylor and Kelce a lot of money. I'm not saying we should have cut Kelce, but choosing Kelce over Trent Williams is a decision.

Oh so you're a special kind of reerun.

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 18052385)

100 GMs out of 100 would have paid Kelce over Trent in that situation to play with Mahomes.

Don't even try to act like that was a controversial decision.

Except Bill Belichick.

100 GMs out 100 GMs would take a HOF LT over a HOF TE.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052346)

He's finally investing some REAL capital into the Tackle Position. And yes, I do agree that Simmons is not a guarantee. But he is a genuine and honest attempt (the first real committed attempt to fix the problem) of Veach's career to fix Left Tackle long term.

1. Invest a 1st round pick at Tackle

2. Pony up and reset the Tackle market with a top Tackle like Trent

Either of these would have been perfectly F'ing appropriate. I just wish it didn't take so long.

The point from which you’re arguing is disingenuous.

They did try to make Trent Williams the highest paid tackle. They didn’t choose Kelce over him. San Fran just hit the bid button once it got to “desperate” mode and KC did.

That was a serious attempt. So was trading a first for Orlando Brown and trying to lock him up long-term to the top contract at the position.

Spending top 3 round picks isn’t half-assed or dumpster diving. It’s just a different type of gamble.

Trent Williams has literally been the only top tackle other than Orlando Brown and Jawaan Taylor to hit the market. Those are the three best Ts, and the Chiefs have tried with all three.

Acting like the Chiefs haven’t been serious about replacing Eric Fisher is just silly.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052400)

Except Bill Belichick.

100 GMs out 100 GMs would take a HOF LT over a HOF TE.

The same Belichick that signed Gronk to a 6 year $54 million contract extension in 2012, which was at the time the largest ever for a TE?

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18052404)

The same Belichick that signed Gronk to a 6 year $54 million contract extension in 2012, which was at the time the largest ever for a TE?

The Patriots could afford that luxury because they were already set at Left Tackle.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052405)

The Patriots could afford that luxury because they were already set at Left Tackle.

Belichick didn't pay to keep Nate Solder... true?

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 18052388)

Personally i do not thiink that Trent was ever coming to KC. He most likely was using the Chiefs to get the 49ers offer a little higher.

That is exactly the case. Trent Williams wanted to stay in San Francisco. Chiefs gave him the leverage he needed to really squeeze the Niners for top dollar. He got exactly what he wanted, but he ultimately gave up a chance to win 2+ championships.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy (Post 18052400)

Except Bill Belichick.

100 GMs out 100 GMs would take a HOF LT over a HOF TE.

Yeah I think ill just quit while I'm ahead. This conversation won't be getting any better.

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 18052388)

Personally i do not thiink that Trent was ever coming to KC. He most likely was using the Chiefs to get the 49ers offer a little higher.

This is what I remember reading about the situation.

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 18050325)

Especially when you look at the other side and see Jawaan Taylor’s $27 million cap #.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18052401)

The worst contract on the team is probably Taylor...but there wasn't anything the Chiefs could do at that point after OBJ ****ed us. They really thought he could probably play LT.

The next worst is Creed Humphrey which we did to ourselves for absolutely no reason.