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Do you hear yourself? W is a W. By one point, or by 40 points. 31 other teams would LOVE to have our Lombardi that we won not dominating at any point. |
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We could easily be sitting here bemoaning another season where we didn’t win a SB in the Mahomes window. I’m well ****ing aware how lucky we are, but get some perspective if you actually think we steamrolled the league last year and there weren’t the requisite moments of luck necessary to achieve that. Do you hear what I’m saying? |
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Yes, I get it. We have Patrick Mahomes. You wanna know what pairs really really well with Patrick Mahomes? A defense that allows under 24 pts. Since he's been starter, so including games where he didn't play and including the playoffs we are 46-2 when the D holds the opponent to 23 or less points. Our only losses were against the Colts.
Now when the D allows 24+ we drop down to 29-19. Chris Jones is a huge part of why we hold teams below 24 points. You all wanna act like we can win shoot out after shoot out, but so far we're winning only about 60% of those. If you don't think losing Chris Jones will shoot our ppg up, then you're just too stupid to reason with. Patrick Mahomes is the best ever, but even he can't go out and win game after game when the defense can't stop anyone. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can point out the fact that the Chiefs were still able to beat Herbert and Watson without Jones, but the Chiefs defense allowed over 29ppg in those matchups while the Chiefs offense averaged 43ppg.</p>— ‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1689625568696766464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Kudos to TribalElder for nailing the OP and thread title on this epic saga. Will no doubt be one we look back on whichever way it falls.
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So let's try to figure out the range the Chiefs are offering. We have strong reason to believe Jones is asking $30M per year since someone floated that to the media a week or two ago and no one in the Jones camp complained.
If the Chiefs were offering $28-29M, I feel like the deal would be done by now. We have to assume the Chiefs are offering more than Quinnen Williams' $24M. I feel like even $25M would be a bit of an insult, and Jones camp would be complaining. So it seems to me the Chiefs are offering $26-27M, probably closer to $27M. Quinnen got 4 years, but he is 25 years old. Maybe the Chiefs are holding firm on 3 years with an out and that's a big sticking point. So right now it's probably something like Jones demanding $30M over 4 years, and the Chiefs offering $27M over 3 years with an out. If they Chiefs are offering any lower than that, I don't think they're serious about signing him. |
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