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htismaqe 11-02-2022 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572016)
No idea. Just paraphrasing what I read from a couple of their local Giants analysts. Doesn't help that he was only targeted like 3 times in those games, so literally no actual film to study either.

Maybe they're going by how he practiced?
He wasn't practicing because of the hammy, that's why they wanted rid of him.

Megatron96 11-02-2022 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16572039)
He wasn't practicing because of the hammy, that's why they wanted rid of him.
Yeah, i know. Think that article was from week 3, basically after his second game. But I think he was limited in practice even before then.

htismaqe 11-02-2022 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572042)
Yeah, i know. Think that article was from week 3, basically after his second game. But I think he was limited in practice even before then.
He's been limited with some injury or another pretty much his entire NFL career to this point. Hopefully, it was an attitude thing and not really him being injured all the time but I wouldn't count on it.

raybec 4 11-02-2022 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16572039)
He wasn't practicing because of the hammy, that's why they wanted rid of him.
I wonder if he's maybe just an asshole. If Mahomes and Reid can't get anything out of him it's really a small investment.

htismaqe 11-02-2022 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16572048)
I wonder if he's maybe just an asshole. If Mahomes and Reid can't get anything out of him it's really a small investment.
That's the risk, yes.

Megatron96 11-02-2022 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16572046)
He's been limited with some injury or another pretty much his entire NFL career to this point. Hopefully, it was an attitude thing and not really him being injured all the time but I wouldn't count on it.
I've been told he had an injury history in college as well. He's a big ? right now is all. Just trying to be objective is all.

I should probably stop watching Kardarius film. It's like porn to me at this point. Melting my brain.

htismaqe 11-02-2022 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572053)
I've been told he had an injury history in college as well. He's a big ? right now is all. Just trying to be objective is all.

I should probably stop watching Kardarius film. It's like porn to me at this point. Melting my brain.
Yep. He's an electric player. He just needs to stay healthy and get his head on straight. I have hope he can do that here. The Chiefs have a top notch medical staff and the most cohesive locker room in the NFL.

Megatron96 11-02-2022 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16572056)
Yep. He's an electric player. He just needs to stay healthy and get his head on straight. I have hope he can do that here. The Chiefs have a top notch medical staff and the most cohesive locker room in the NFL.
Also one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. He's going to have every opportunity to excel, that's for sure.

htismaqe 11-02-2022 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16572077)
Also one of the best coaching staffs in the NFL. He's going to have every opportunity to excel, that's for sure.
Yep.

It's not only the best coaching staff but it's light years different than the Patriot Way shit going on in NY.

We all know what Joe Judge is. While he has the team playing better, Daboll isn't a players' coach at all. He's very much an authoritarian, my way or the highway type of guy.

nicksdad 11-02-2022 01:18 PM
You know judge is not with patriots , right ? What patriot way stuff is going on in New York?

penguinz 11-02-2022 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 16572136)
You know judge is not with patriots , right ? What patriot way stuff is going on in New York?
Brian Daboll Coaching Tree
Before he was a head coach, Daboll served as an assistant coach for Bill Belichick, Eric Mangini, Tony Sparano, Romeo Crennel, and Sean McDermott. Eleven of these years were spent on Belichick's coaching staff.

https://pro-football-history.com/coa...ian-daboll-bio

TwistedChief 11-02-2022 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 16572136)
You know judge is not with patriots , right ? What patriot way stuff is going on in New York?
Probably the stuff that impacted Toney's rookie season with the team when Judge was HC?

suzzer99 11-02-2022 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 16562874)
Let be honest about our draft picks. Veach filled a bunch of holes last off season. Williams and Watson filled in very well in place of Fenton and McDuffie. Harris has play really well in the absence of Willie Gay. On offense the only hole is at RT but it's between solid to elite everywhere else.

My point is these mid to later round picks aren't going to mean as much this year. The premium picks need to be spent on premium positions. Right now that's EDGE and RT.

I must say I don't like the Cook pick right now. I wish we would have used it on a RT but then again I'm sure Veach would tell you the value wasn't there. That's just how it goes sometimes.

All in all, this was a great move by Veach.
Should be able to pick up a decent RT in the top 100, and hopefully a pro-bowl RT at 30-ish.

suzzer99 11-02-2022 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16571836)
Seriously. We dodged a bullet by losing out on him. And you have to wonder how SF feels about that contract now.
Hopefully similar to how Buffalo will feel about the Von Miller deal in a year or two.

htismaqe 11-02-2022 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nicksdad (Post 16572136)
You know judge is not with patriots , right ? What patriot way stuff is going on in New York?
Joe Judge spent 7 years with the Patriots before he ever stepped foot in New York and he spent 2 years before that working with Saban (another Belichik disciple).

Joe Judge is pure Patriot Way.

So is Daboll.

And I already explained what's going on. Those guys are authoritarians, they run their teams from the top down. They don't believe in getting along with players or helping them off the field. It's all about results on the field and doing it "their" way.


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