But but but, Gabe SAID!

So MU? Deal is done now?


I am getting tired of asking. When are you going to Ballsack up?

He absolutely did not say that. In fact, he went so far as to start a thread this morning saying that he had no information stating that today is the day. Sorry, dipshit.

Sorry...but that's awesome.

really? how's my ass taste?

"only question is when\how news come out"

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<s class="hash">"#</s>Mizzou will withdraw from Big 12 today. Only ? is when/how news comes out."

Fyp

This Dave Matter guy and the Dearmounds sure have hitched their wagons to MU leaving the Big 12.

Hope it works out for them. damn

810 tomorrow at 2pm CST is appointment radio for some lol's. KK is gonna have a field day.

It's a pretty big decision that rests soley on Deaton's shoulders, I'd take my time to think it through if I were him as well.

Even as a Nebraska fan, I stil question/questioned Nebraska leaving for the Big 10.

I'm surprised I haven't hear a single Missouri fan do the same.

That's because Mizzou was offered a full membership to the SEC, and not a junior membership to the B1G.

Plenty question the move. Remember there are only like 8 MU fans that consistently post in this thread on Chiefsplanet.

In real life there may be close to 800 MU fans out there.

LMAO

The most fun for me is watching people like you whine, bitch, moan and rant.

And just because we don't post it here doesn't mean we don't question whether a move is right for MU. We just find it more entertaining to play "kick the cat" with guys like you and pissing you off by screaming for a move to a real conference, not one where we have to kiss the a$$ of OU and Texas.

Deaton may have let some info slip on KOMU tonight.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I was holding out hope that if the conference apocalypse happened KU, MU, KSU (and another) would end up in the Big 10.

Lots of long time rivalries I don't want to lose.

Not to mention, KU, KSU, and MU would help the B1G not get embarrased in the ACC/B!G challenge.

Brady Deaton: "I think the Big XII is making moves that are best for the Big XII, and I wish them the best".

Who's mad?

I'm confused.

I thought I was the happy one licking the Texas ballsack and MU fans were angry.

Can't have it both ways dude.

If you talk to people who are B1G fans they believe they don't need anyone else. They are waiting for Notre Dame to cave in and join them and then they will have their closed Fraternity. If they were generous they might let in someone like Rutgers, but have no need for it.

There's virtually no chance that MU, KU and KSU will be in the B1G together unless something drastic happens.

The part that is most important to realize is the bolded part...you've been confused this whole thread.

If you read the full KOMU article with Deaton's quotes...it's CLEAR Mizzou is leaving, just a matter of time.

From what I've heard, the B1G and Notre Dame have bad blood now and Notre Dame isn't welcome, (and vice versa) hence the Notre Dame to the ACC talk.

If the B1G is forced to keep up with the Joneses then KU, KSU, and MU are the best fit in my mind. F Rutgers, and the other northeastern schools that really don't give that much of a sh*t about college sports.

I'm just saying that those are the 3 schools I'd like to have if it goes tumbling down.

Do you really think that if ND comes calling to the B1G that they won't welcome them with open arms?

There's too much money involved to not have them there. ND will decide where they want to go, (ACC or B1G) and whomever they pick will gladly accept them.

You have a link to the article?

Deaton's comments:

Mike DeArmond:

Another telling bit from the KOMU article...

Hope this shit is done tomorrow or the next day....

KU and K-State won't be invited to the Big 10. Give it up people.

I believe that was an MU fan that brought it up. I think you left something back in Wisconsin.

I brought it up (a Nebaska fan).

It's just something I'd like to see if all the conferences implode, but I guess I'm in the minority. The northeastern schools don't intrigue me at all.

:LOL:

If the conference were to implode, obviously the B!G would be fantastic. And yes, their options might be limited. I'm quite content with the Big XII and am excited about the prospects of new members. Obviously, as a basketball fan, I'd like to see Louisville and I favor expanding to 12 with Cincinnati and WVU.

I think NU made a good decision for themselves, I just can't stand Bo's Pelini, so no offense meant towards the Husker fan base at large.

I know Texas wants to stay at 10, but is willing to go to 12 if they split the new divisions with Texas in one and OU in the other but remaining permanent cross division opponents. I'd like to see that plan. I actually think it would be good for the conference as a whole if there were two Texas schools in each division. Gives those former North schools something more to sell to recruits.

Maybe something like:

Texas
Baylor
KU
ISU
Cincinnati
WVU

Texas Tech
TCU
KSU
OU
OSU
Louisville

You could make KU and KSU permanent rivals as well. OU and OSU have to remain in the same division since OU is crossed with Texas.

We do have some realingment news to report and it effects one of the local teams. Oral Roberts is leaving UMKC's home league, Summit, for the Southland Conference.

That'd be funny if your team didn't give up 50+ every week.

No, its still funny. We don't make our reputation on football.

Yeah a reputation on losing to mid majors in a sport that doesn't count is the way to go. Wonder why no conferences have invited KU :LOL:

Got one, don't need an invite.

No no no.....KK's going to have a "field day".....uh, for some reason.

Rumor on WVU boards is that the Big East exit penalty goes up by $5MM on Thursday. Anyone know if that is true?

Wouldn't it be better if you could be a junior member instead of a full member, though?

The only reason they stay until 2013 would be if the exit penalties were too high. But, like with Nebraska & Colorado, I'm sure they will negotiate the fees down into the $6-$10 million range.

Hmm...

Mizzou to rest of the conference:

http://blog.art21.org/wp-content/upl...5494355865.jpg

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen adieu!

Mizzou to rest of the conference:

http://blog.art21.org/wp-content/upl...5494355865.jpg

So long, farewell, auf wiedersehen, adieu!

They are draggin' this out because the really like how you coddle their ballsack.

GET THE **** OUT SLAVERS

Thank God this is finally coming to a close.


It really didn't matter one way or the other, I just wanted to stop hearing about this shit.

It is so cute that the Big 12 thinks Mizzou will stay for one more year to help smooth the transition.

I think this thread is dying the way the old one did.

The Big 12 should just tell Mizzou to GTFO and give them a break on exit fees. The last thing they want is for Mizzou to hang around reminding everyone that they are leaving.


Besides, it's not like they are losing a "10". It's more like losing a 5-6 that looked like a 7 while the conference was down.

lol. It has nothing to do with the Big 12 trying to hold onto to MU to make it a smooth transition, it has to do with MU trying to get out of as much of the exit fees as possible.

It has to do with not having a team lined up to replace Mizzou in 2011 and exit fee negotiation.

I guess that means that the Big 12 will hold MU to the exit fee fire.

Maybe if MU delays this thing the Big 12 will just say leave already & forget about the exit fees!

Their fees were based on an intact conference. I would think the damages would be less for Mizzou, as the conference was already badly damages from the losses of aTm, Nebraska, and Colorado.

My guess is that $6 million is the ceiling, and the lawyers negotiate down from there. As many times as Neinas has said the conference will be fine without Mizzou, that could come back to bite him when trying to claim damages.

Yes.

Yes.


I'm not sure what's unclear here - the IIX evidently intends to offer MU some fairly hefty concessions on the exit fees (and probably drop all legal challenges) if Mizzou agrees to stay in the IIX for 2012.

It's probably the right decision for all parties. I'm as eager to get out as the next guy, but I don't want MU or its boosters throwing a ton of money at legal fees (and there would be plenty) if this thing has to go to litigation. There appears to be a lot more animosity surrounding MU's move than there is w/ A&Ms, so MU needs to do something to grease the skids on the way out. Staying in the IIX for the 2012 season would be annoying, but not terribly painful. Sign the contracts with the SEC, save several million and a lot of headache, be ready to hit the ground running in 2013.

Or call their bluff. Seems petty, but it could happen.

I wonder if Mizzou and the Big XII have an agreement that they'll lower the exit fees and let them leave in 2012 if MU doesn't formally move until the BXII has a replacement lined up and ready to go...has to be something like that as to why this is dragging out.

Makes sense with the WVU chat heating up this morning...

Also, there's chatter supposedly this morning too about Notre Dame moving all non football sports to the Big XII as well...

Good luck with that. If $6 million was the ceiling, MU would have announced they were leaving by now.

A damages claim is less relevant when discussing a liquidated damages provision. At that point, all he has to do is establish 'damage' in general, then fall back on the liquidated damages provision.

It's sufficient to form a cause of action, if nothing else. And the way the value of one of these is generally calculated is you take the best case scenario $$ figure and multiply it by the odds of winning then subtract legal fees. So if you're the IIX and you think you have about a 50/50 shot at winning a $24 million lawsuit, then the 'value' of the suit is placed at right around $12 million (minus fees) and that's where you start your negotiations from.

Now the IIX has done some stuff in the interim to make the damages more calculable (i.e. the payoffs from NE and CO), but that again just speaks to the odds of winning. MU may be able to argue that the damages can be clearly calculated, thus making the liquidated damages clause punitive in nature and thus unenforceable. But even then, MU's 'best case' scenario is the $6-9 million the other schools have paid out + legal costs.

MU doesn't really have a hell of a lot of leverage here. The suit is probably worth right around $9 million when you get right down to it. Is it 'fair' to make MU pay more than CU when they leave? No, not really, but fair's got nothing to do with it. MU needs to continuing playing nice until the final figures are agreed upon then get out with as little financial damage as possible.

Every booster dollar not spent on exit fees or legal fees is a booster dollar that can go to facilities. Let's keep an eye on that when discussing this stuff.

The Big XII's expressions of Missouri staying are to appear as though all the impetus of Missouri leaving is their own. The Big XII is really under no deadline to have this done, all the time pressures are really on Missouri. If Missouri wants to play in the SEC next year, they have to give the schedule makers enough time to make that happen and negotiate any changes to their existing schedule for next year, if necessary.

The SEC schedules are made. That's no obstacle. Do you really think time is in the Big IIX's side? The Big IIX has to add a bunch of city schools and apply flame redardant to every couch in the midwest.

If Mizzou was in a hurry, they would already be gone. The longer Mizzou stays, the more the Big IIX is handcuffed.

you are conveniently forgetting that the remaining members met after NU and CU left and all went through everything. These fees are based on that. CU and NU are meaningless.

According top the SEC they haven't done anything except plan for a 13 team schedule, and those are even complete.

After the members left, they put together a bunch of non-binding resolutions and commitments to commit.

They didn't change the by-laws or the fee structures.

The exit fees will be calculated under the same language used when NE and CO left. That language is nebulous at best (and malpractice at worst). It absolutely leaves itself open to challenge and it will definitely be the only reason MU may get out of this thing for around $8 million or less.

What I hadn't really considered to this point was the possibility that the SEC is telling MU that it's offer is contingent on arriving in 2012. Deaton seems pretty dead-set on going to the SEC next season and that just doesn't seem like him. I wonder if the SEC isn't forcing MU's hand a little bit here, in which case we'll probably end up cashing out for a little bit less than Nebraska did.

Good point. I forgot that the other members could meet and go through everything thus unilaterally changing the agreement.

I mean, as long as the other members "went through everything", it's settled.

MU is not in control of this other than trying to minimize exit fees. And if they wait to long, exit fees will go up if they plan to leave next year.

Oh well I guess we can take that as gospel, seeing as how admitting they were working on a 14 team schedule would be admitting they have had negotiations with a 14th member.

The SEC Commissioner isn't a dumbass like Neinas. He's got his peeps in-line.

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by Dave_Matter
West Virginia to Big 12 w/in 24-48 hours after Missouri withdraws from Big 12, sources tell @CBSSports bit.ly/vPPq77

Chip Brown pulling out the big guns!!!

"Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas continues to voice hope that Missouri will remain in the Big 12. And there is speculation that Notre Dame's possible interest in the Big 12 for its non-football sports could entice Mizzou to stay put.

Sources said Missouri is being told it will be cut in on any rotation of football games involving Notre Dame and the Big 12."

http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1283801

It will almost be like nothing has changed except for the travel time.

and breeding habits ohhh and hygiene.