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BossChief 01-05-2025 08:07 PM

I bet they use one of those picks in the 60s to move up in the first and then grade up from the other pick in the 60s to go get someone they love.

Rausch 01-05-2025 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 17894095)
Draft a stud corner with that 3rd round pick #fullcircle

Trade up for franchise LT?...

RunKC 01-07-2025 09:50 AM

Brett Veach masterclass

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Rainbarrel 01-07-2025 09:55 AM

Vrabel must have run off the flaming thumbtacks logo. Nope just cut off

RedinTexas 01-07-2025 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17894231)
Trade up for franchise LT?...

How far up do you have to go to get a franchise LT? It would probably take a trade much like we made to get Mahomes. This year's first and third along with next year's first could move us up signigicantly, but we'd need the right guy to target and a team that would trade with us. Teams seem pretty reluctant to trade draft picks with us (except Buffalo) and will probably be demanding a nice premium to make such a trade. Having the right guy available for such a trade might or might not happen too.

Buehler445 01-07-2025 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17896627)
Brett Veach masterclass

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Titans part ways with GM Ran Carthon. <a href="https://t.co/u53FPCx5gB">pic.twitter.com/u53FPCx5gB</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1876655935802036708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn, was thinking maybe we could go to the well one more time :D

Raiderhater 01-07-2025 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17892181)

I feel like this was the case in 2013 when we drafted 1st overall, it seems like another team - the faid maybe - had the same record and we swapped 1st and second places every round.

RedinTexas 01-07-2025 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17892116)
I'm not positive that it will be 65. There are other 3 win teams. I think that they rotate the first pick in each round with teams with first record don't they?

Thanks for posting this. I did not know the NFL did this. I had seen something showing NYG with the 1st pick of the 3rd round and just thought it was a mistake. This system makes total sense though.

Womble 01-07-2025 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17896649)
How far up do you have to go to get a franchise LT? It would probably take a trade much like we made to get Mahomes. This year's first and third along with next year's first could move us up signigicantly, but we'd need the right guy to target and a team that would trade with us. Teams seem pretty reluctant to trade draft picks with us (except Buffalo) and will probably be demanding a nice premium to make such a trade. Having the right guy available for such a trade might or might not happen too.

Genuine question, is trading up for an earlyish 1st round LT worth it? I ask because I don't really know what the success/whiff rate on these highly rated college tackles are. Would it not be a better option to explore a trade similar to the 2021 Orlando Brown Jr deal if possible. Just not the actual Orlando Brown this time because I can't stand that fat sack of shit.

htismaqe 01-07-2025 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17896702)
Genuine question, is trading up for an earlyish 1st round LT worth it? I ask because I don't really know what the success/whiff rate on these highly rated college tackles are. Would it not be a better option to explore a trade similar to the 2021 Orlando Brown Jr deal if possible. Just not the actual Orlando Brown this time because I can't stand that fat sack of shit.

We've talked about tackles in the draft for years. About 75% of all the guys discussed have failed to become a serviceable tackle. A lot of them ended up as guards. Several of them are backups at best.

Trading up for a LT would be stupid.

Womble 01-07-2025 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17896708)
We've talked about tackles in the draft for years. About 75% of all the guys discussed have failed to become a serviceable tackle. A lot of them ended up as guards. Several of them are backups at best.

Trading up for a LT would be stupid.

That is the answer I expected but I couldn't be arsed to look up how every 1st round tackle in the last few years has fared. Cheers

O.city 01-07-2025 11:10 AM

The issue with trading up for a LT is you're gonna want to do it for a guy you think is an legit prospect. Those guys go really early.

Now if there's a guy they really like and they need to get to 21 or something? Sure, I'd trust them with that for sure

O.city 01-07-2025 11:11 AM

But we're at the point in this whole dynasty thing where, like NE did, we have to start getting value out of things others can't or won't.

We've done it with some Rb's and WR's and such, but if you're hope is "Hey lets get a guy like Joe Alt at LT" I'd probably think other thoughts

htismaqe 01-07-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17896716)
That is the answer I expected but I couldn't be arsed to look up how every 1st round tackle in the last few years has fared. Cheers

To get a true plug and play guy, you're talking about trading into the low teens, if not the top 10.

It would take a Mahomes-like trade to make that happen.

Trading up into the late teens/early 20's has about the same hit rate as staying put at the end of round one. Anything less than a blockbuster trade is basically throwing picks away.

Mecca 01-07-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17896722)
But we're at the point in this whole dynasty thing where, like NE did, we have to start getting value out of things others can't or won't.

We've done it with some Rb's and WR's and such, but if you're hope is "Hey lets get a guy like Joe Alt at LT" I'd probably think other thoughts

I mean so far the returns on Morris and Kingsley are right what you'd expect out of 2nd and 3rd round OT's, that's the normal conclusion there.

Also as far as LT goes it's not like NE found LT's. they had Matt Light for like 13 years and when he was gone they traded up for Nate Solder.


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