Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12928755)

He wants Pioli without the backroom bullshit and general ****ery.

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 12928692)

If that is true, then I think Clark is overvaluing the business side of being a GM and undervaluing the talent recognition side. So what if Dorsey offends the players a little when negotiating contracts. If Clark had to intervene to get the sides talking then fine. Maybe that's what he needs to be prepared to do going forward for negotiating major star contracts? Clark can help Dorsey out in that department, but he's not going to be of much use finding the next Kelce, Peters, Hill or Jones. Now, none of us know who is truly responsible for advocating for those players. Maybe those people are still with the team and we will be fine?

It just makes seems like a juvenile reason to let someone go over personality and mgmt style when they are producing a high quality product on the field. Do people love the Pats because Belichik is a nice guy and people think highly of the franchise? No, it's because they win championships. They win championships because they have Brady and can find talent in the draft and in strategic cheap free agents. I thought we were well on our way to replicating that model if Mahomes pans out, but now I have no idea. We will find out is Dorsey or Ballard were the keys to our draft and fa hits or if that person/people are still around.

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 12928754)

You are in over your head ,dude.

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 12928763)

It is a fine line. If you start earning a reputation that you are not a franchise that does right by your players, it is only a matter of time before things start going downwards. Players talk in the locker room. They talk to other players around the league. Your stars start staying away from OTA's. Players will be unwilling to talk about renegotiating contracts. An us against management mentality takes over. Agents are going to try and screw you. Guys like Marcus Peters are going to be harder to negotiate with because they know you're just going to ignore them and toss the franchise tag on them. Free agents will be unwilling to talk to you. Remember, Clark talked to Peyton Manning after he signed with Denver at one of the 101 Awards and asked him why he didn't consider the Chiefs, and the response he alluded to was that this place didn't have the best rep under Pioli at the time. I think that stuck with Clark. I doubt he wants to be there again...

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 12928605)

NFL live saying that Dorsey was fired because of some bad deals he's made and also beating Reid wouldn't sign a extension without knowing who the gm is going to be. They keep bringing up Brett Veach

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12928758)

You're unbelievably ****ing ignorant if you believe that

One of the most stupid takes I've seen on CP. Honestly, who's drafted better the past couple years?

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 12928774)

Can't wait to hear what Kietzmann will say about it today.


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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12928775)

Raiders for one. They got some major high end talent - Carr, Mack, Cooper and Jackson > Kelse, Peters, and Hill.

Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 12928761)

yep Clark loved him some Fat Scott, the cap managment, not cutting guys and admitting mistakes, sticking with him way too long, and even asking Andy to see if he could make it work with Fat Scott

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12928776)

Yesterday it was because Dorsey drafted the worst QB in the history of the NFL, as evidenced by Mahomes' minicamp. In fact, Reid was so pissed about it he had Mahomes do footwork drills in front of the media so everybody could see how awful Mahomes was so it would make Dorsey look bad.

I am not making this up.

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 12928776)

Yesterday it was because Dorsey drafted the worst QB in the history of the NFL, as evidenced by Mahomes' minicamp. In fact, Reid was so pissed about it he had Mahomes do footwork drills in front of the media so everybody could see how awful Mahomes was so it would make Dorsey look bad.

I am not making this up.

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 12928775)

Raiders for one. They got some major high end talent - Carr, Mack, Cooper and Jackson > Kelse, Peters, and Hill.

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 12928782)

If this is true Joe should give him a complimentary Roman candle to be firmly placed in his ass