lol. Who are you?

When he needed a fresh start and no one would give it to him but KSU, he bolted after only one year.

I think were better off with Martin, but that was still shitty.

I'm not saying that academics are completely thrown out the window - but you & I know that this is all about football and TV's. The only academic conversation that I've seen was talk about how when/if MU moves to the SEC they will have the same # of AAU schools as the Big 12.

That's one of my biggest regrets... wish Alden had been ballsy enough to go hard after Huggins. The job was open... and there was talk (from a prominent basketball-crazy booster I had a conversation with) that OJ Mayo might have come along to Columbia if Huggy landed there instead of Manhattan.

He still bolts Mizzou for WVU, IMO, but it would have been fun to watch Mayo, Beaseley and Walker together for a year.

It was, and it would be cool to see KSU get to play him, along with Mizzou getting to play Mike Anderson.

The guy went home. Can't blame him for that. He made KSU basketball relevant. It worked out well for everyone.

Which is the same reason why it's hard for me to fault Anderson now that enough time has passed.

Do you look forward to playing him?

Right now I think it would be fun, but ask me again two years from now when he is clowning Haith.

No one knew it was going to work out well at the time. Martin was a completely unknown and untested guy.

Huggins had gotten into some trouble and was out of coaching until KSU went out on a limb with him, and that is how he thanked them for that gamble.

My beef with MA is that he always seemed to have a wandering eye. Every year, he tried to leverage a better deal by dropping hints that he was leaving. Take the better deal or don't.

Mizzou has a better offer from the SEC. We told the Big XII what we needed in order to stay, and we didn't get it. Deuces.

MA told Mizzou what he wanted. He got it, and he still bolted a year later with zero recruits signed. That asshole knew he was leaving, and he phoned in his recruiting efforts accordingly.

Sadly, I agree with this post 100 percent. Haith is a disaster, IMO.

Anderson is still having trouble recruiting, though. Arkie fans are not real pleased he couldn't land Archie Goodwin.

agreed. I don't fault Huggs, he couldn't have forseen the WVU opening up so soon.

eh, Mayo was looking at KSU pretty hard too, but obviously we didn't pay as well as USC.

Do you think he will stay at Arkansas?

I know how you feel. That is exactly what Eddie Fogler did to WSU, and it took one heck of a long time for them to recover. He left the cupboard totally empty. "Vanderbilt was the only school he would leave for."

Mizzou, is turning it around a lot quicker, and of course they are not a "mid major" so that helps.

The reason to fault Anderson isn't that he left, it's that he left the recruiting pipeline empty.

Is it just me, or has this thread lost it's hate?

Maybe its time to burn down Larry again.

Give it time....I'm sure it will be poppin' by end of the day. :evil:

I dunno. Still think Lawrence could use a fresh coat of fire.

So the deal is done?

When is the formal announcement?

Wait until basketball season.

I'm trolled out.

At this point, any 'smack' that can be laid has been laid. It's been responded to with varying degrees of success by several different parties and returned in kind.

This thread is really like watching Larry Johnson run. It burned brightly for a bit, served its purpose, but now its really just going through the motions, getting to the hole late and falling down after first contact.

Someone let me know when we start changing signage, then I'll be interested again.

Deaton is going to Dallas to meet with the Big XII brass. Supposedly, he's withdrawing in person.

:thumb: Well done MU...

Maybe it is the realization that sympathy is in order for Mizzou. It is looking more and more like 4-8 and heading to a tougher conference.

Some people could take some consolation that Mizzou is preseason ranked top 25 in BB, but that sport just doesn't matter.

It just looks bleak for Mizzou, but they should have increased revenue and can say **** you to Texas, so there is that.


Better? :D

K-State president is stranded in Lawton, OK on his way to Dallas.

Evidently, there is a ton of fog at DFW that has been causing delays.

When Mizzou and aTm play this weekend, the marching bands should do a joint appearance at halftime and the grand finale should include forming a "XII" and then morphing into "SEC".

I'm sure that was done by MU somehow to make their stay in the Big 12 longer and thus getting more media attention. :p

More like KU butthurt with phog. Leave it to the beaks to bring up basketball one final time.

But like 3 of them.



ROFL

You gotta give it to them, they've made changing the subject an absolute art form:

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I couldn't make this up.

I've got to use this video one more time before you guys leave.



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O Quinn how we miss you...

I feel sorry for that guy. His life must suck. Hope it improves at some point.

Pretty sure he was trying to be funny.

I doubt it. He looked pretty much like that is all he had going for him.

Eye of the TIGER!!!

Yeah, he looked totally serious with it when he was walking off camera at the end of the video.

And to think we could have had Self....

{sigh}

We would have probably ended up with Cal.

/shudder

What happened to Louisville being the front-runner to replace Mizzou? It seems like West Virginia almost came out of nowhere to leapfrog both BYU and Louisville.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/st...ves-conference

I wonder if there is a hangup with BYU.

Realistically he probably would have left Mizzou to go to OSU when their job opened up.

West Virginia would be the best choice, but they are trying everything they can to get into the SEC. If the SEC goes to 16, they gone.

BYU wants to be independent in FB, no?

Possibly, but think of the good years you would of had with him. No offense, but Thank God for whoever made that decision.

I didn't know if that was their final choice. Makes sense if they can swing it, try to be a mini version of Notre Dame I guess.

Well they already have their own SiriusXM and TV channel, so why not try and stay independent.

Wickedson!

KSU pres has arrived in Dallas. Looks like the fog was blown out by what has been described as SEC speed.

ESPN reporting that Mizzou is going to the SEC East. Gabe DeArmond has been saying this for weeks, but when ESPN reports it, it must be coming from somewhere credible.

Would make sense, since it wasn't entirely factual.

I wonder what ole Kietz is going to have to say today.

KK: "Missouri will never win again. It will be impossible for them to play. They'll never have it as easy as they do in the Big 12!"

Anyone else: "Um, Kevin, Missouri actually has played the second-toughest schedule in the country THIS season. In the Big 12."

KK: "Well, of course. But once the Big 12 goes back to divisions and Missouri is in the North again, it would be FOOLISH to let that opportunity go!"

Anyone else: "Um, Kietz, the Big 12 is only going back to 12 if Missouri leaves - because there's concern just adding one of the expansion options wouldn't be enough to maintain market value. And even if the Big 12 goes back to 12, the North is likely going to have Oklahoma or Oklahoma State or both in it. as well as West Virginia. Missouri might even get moved to the South division!"

ChipBrownOB Chip Brown


Sources tell Orangebloods.com Notre Dame will decide in 60 days if it will move non-fball sports out of Big East (possibly to Big 12)





Stupid if so. Why would the Big 12....or any conference.....want them without FB?

Better cultural fit.

Because they are ****ing Notre Dame.

In hope that they someday join the conference in football too. Smart men are easily duped by the financial upside that Notre Dame could offer and are willing to bend over backwards for them.

GabeDeArmond Gabe DeArmond
Have received more info confirming what I wrote yesterday that #Mizzou will withdraw from Big 12 today. Only ? is when/how news comes out.


My guess is Chip breaks it and the cycle will be complete.

Take parts of that, reverse it, and apply it to Missouri.

Smart teams see through the bullshit, get the **** out, flip the liars double-birds, and laugh as the conference collapses behind them.

Mizzou is gone. Awesome.

Even if ND doesn't come into the IIX, they'll still play the 'Marquee' teams here and there. I'm sure they'd end up replacing that UT/A&M Thanksgiving game with UT/ND.

And I believe sooner or later Notre Dame will be forced into a conference. I think the team that has them at that time will have a leg up on the rest of the BCS.

(That said, it's going to be ****ing hysterical when the B1G goes in there and snipes ND right out from under UT.)

this

You assume that UT won't go with them to the B1G.

That is the theory/fantasy of all the B1G fanboys due to that Purple Book Cat dude on the Northwestern boards. I could see it happening.

Not with LHN...

They could scrap it, fold it into the BTN, turn it into a "regional" BTN, etc. I think ESPN, Big Ten, and Texas could come to some sort of an agreement if all the parties really wanted it to happen.

The next few years will be really interesting.

I've never heard anyone say UL was the top choice. BYU was in the running, buit I heard rumors that they were reluctant to share financials with the league. But they are not out of the running. I expect they would move back into the top choice if MU is insistent on leaving after this season.

ROFL

KSU has a 50/50 shot vs OU.

I like those odds! :thumb:

Bob Stoops has never lost consecutive regular season games.

Good luck with that.

I still think K-State is a product of a whole lot of smoke and mirrors with some excellent coaching and fortunate scheduling, but we'll know for sure by Sunday, won't we?

Oh well, I'm just kinda stuck looking forward to spring practices already at this point - let's move on with the Berkstresser/Mauk era because I haven't seen a thing I like from James Franklin.

Views from the bottom of the league.

By DJ's Left Nut

That really is an incredible stat.

You may see some stuff you like from him when they wise up and move his ass to receiver.

If Notre Dame joins a conference it will be the ACC.

Like I said - we've had a shit season. Our vaunted Quarterback recruit actually sucks at playing quarterback and our offensive coordinator hasn't progressed a bit from the moment he took over. This is a lost season and I'm just hoping to see someone on this roster actually progress over the next 5 weeks.

That said, you still managed to just barely squeak by us at home.

Keep puffing those chests out, but the hubris of wildcat fans through all this remains laughable.

Why u mad, bro

Or just run a wing-T.

He's the most tentative passer I've ever seen. He doesn't trust a single thing he does out there. He guides the ball and in so doing loses both his velocity and his accuracy.

We've seen him fire the football and when he does, he has some talent. But this coaching staff has failed him badly as he clearly doesn't trust a single thing that's going on out there. I don't know if it's technique, playcalling or a combination of both, but he just doesn't believe in himself.

He's killing us, just absolutely killing us. I hate it because he seems like a nice kid and someone that should be successful, but it's just not coming to him at all.

And I'm glad to see Pinkel finally learned his lesson w/r/t burning out a redshirt. Losing Franklin's redshirt did absolutely nothing to prepare him for the starting quarterback role. It appears that Pinkel sees that and is refusing to do the same w/ Berkstresser (though with Mauk waiting in the Wings, it might have actually made sense here...)

butthurt!