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kysirsoze 01-01-2025 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17887028)
Poles isn't a Chiefs way ****bag the way Pioli was a Patriot way ****bag, but in many ways the Bears are in a similar position.

Thank God for us Clark decided to change the power structure of the team and hired the head coach himself. I don't even want to think about who Pioli would have hired if Clark let the front office power structure stay the same.

The McClaskeys need to make a similar move. Hire the head coach themselves, and if that coach likes Poles, he stays. If that coach wants his own guy, then he goes.

Problem is the McClaskeys are ****ing idiots. Clark has proven to be a savvy owner, but the failson making the decisions for the Bears will absolutely **** this up.

ChiefsFanatic 01-02-2025 02:08 AM

The Bears always choose the wrong person, no matter who they hire. They have hired the "It" hire, and they have picked the "WTF" guy too.

NFL teams won't hire Eric Bienemy, but some teams probably should have.

This is a crazy thought, but maybe they would be perfect for each other.

UChieffyBugger 01-02-2025 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17886998)
Ryan Poles is going to **** this kid over isn’t he?

Flores would be a disaster of a hire

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rumors I&#39;m hearing on Bears head coach opening via team sources: <br>- Lions OC Ben Johnson wants the job, but Ryan Poles has reservations. There is a lot of belief that Johnson would push Poles out. <br>- Johnson is said to want Commanders assistent GM Lance Newmark as the GM. Newmark…</p>&mdash; Charlie Campbell (@DraftCampbell) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftCampbell/status/1874524165950333395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 1, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Why would Flores be a disaster? He turned the Dolphins around and had back to back winning seasons before he left. Infact his first two seasons were better than Dan Campbell's first two. But Dan was allowed to have several high draft picks (Hutchinson, Williams, Gibbs, Sewell, Branch etc), a great O-line, an experienced QB, several decent pieces already there like St Brown, Mckneill etc and was lucky enough to have two good coach's fall into his lap in Johnson and Glenn.

Flores had none of the above. He had a young Tua when he personally wanted Herbert. Then his team's owner tried to get Peyton and Brady behind his back so what chance did he have? The guy has been a revelation with the Vikings and deserves another chance. Ben Johnson looks impressive with all those weapons in Detroit. But how does he look with lesser talent? That remains to be seen.

tredadda 01-02-2025 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17887151)
Poles is a ****ing reerun if he decides to hire that jackass Flores. He'd be awful for Williams.

Exactly. You have a franchise QB who coming out had Mahomes as a comp. You don’t straddle him with another defense minded HC. You get one who can develop him and Johnson would be a great pick.

tredadda 01-02-2025 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 17887193)
Why would Flores be a disaster? He turned the Dolphins around and had back to back winning seasons before he left. Infact his first two seasons were better than Dan Campbell's first two. But Dan was allowed to have several high draft picks (Hutchinson, Williams, Gibbs, Sewell, Branch etc), a great O-line, an experienced QB, several decent pieces already there like St Brown, Mckneill etc and was lucky enough to have two good coach's fall into his lap in Johnson and Glenn.

Flores had none of the above. He had a young Tua when he personally wanted Herbert. Then his team's owner tried to get Peyton and Brady behind his back so what chance did he have? The guy has been a revelation with the Vikings and deserves another chance. Ben Johnson looks impressive with all those weapons in Detroit. But how does he look with lesser talent? That remains to be seen.

Flores would be a good hire for a team with an established QB. Just not sure if he’s the right guy to lead the development of Williams.

seamonster 01-02-2025 09:58 AM

Can't blame Poles for wanting nothing to do with Ben Johnson. Ben Johnson called the architect of the 49ers defense and the guy that picked their offensive skill players a schmuck that works for basketball guys. Bad mouthed him to the press like a bitch (sources say) and then when Peters was enroute to interview him again Johnson canceled the interview while they were in the air. Very petty fragile guy. He's like a pouty Norv Turner.

FloridaMan88 01-02-2025 10:01 AM

Chicago needs an experienced HC with an offensive background.

If Jon Gruden is supposedly open for business again to hire… he would fit that criteria.

Rainbarrel 01-20-2025 02:46 PM

Ben Johnson to be in the house

Pablo 04-16-2025 03:19 PM

New article just dropped:

https://www.esquire.com/sports/a6430...nterview-2025/



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Around his teammates, Williams tried to conceal his frustration. But his emotions spilled out in private after a couple of the late-season losses. “When I got home, I got in my bed. I just dropped a few tears,” Williams admits. “And I was just so beat-up mentally, physically, spiritually.”

RealSNR 04-16-2025 03:35 PM

Lol. Spiritually drained.

DJ's left nut 04-16-2025 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 18031481)
Lol. Spiritually drained.

Weird always works really well in NFL lockerrooms...

This guy's raw talent had better be as remarkable as anything this league has ever seen. Because he's throwing up about every roadblock possible for himself.

There's just an innate self-confidence combined with a complete lack of self-awareness that's going to make him awfully tough to want to go war with, it seems.

Pablo 04-16-2025 03:56 PM

I wonder if his teammates could sense his spiritual drainage? They certainly noticed his anal seepage on and off the field

RealSNR 04-16-2025 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18031505)
Weird always works really well in NFL lockerrooms...

This guy's raw talent had better be as remarkable as anything this league has ever seen. Because he's throwing up about every roadblock possible for himself.

There's just an innate self-confidence combined with a complete lack of self-awareness that's going to make him awfully tough to want to go war with, it seems.

He's a guy who's been given a leadership role who noticeably lets difficulties get the best of him. I can't think of any high-stakes work environment where members of the team will see that and won't question if you're the right person for the job.

If that's his personality, then it sucks for him but he's gonna have to learn to control it.

Rainbarrel 04-16-2025 05:20 PM

The return of the dire wolf is hope for Caleb. The return of megafauna(giant kangaroo). Could give him a darkness retreat in it's pouch. It's milk would be an added bonus


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