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BigRedChief 08-10-2023 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 17050922)
Played Dr. Fraiser Crane back in the day.

Welll duh!

suzzer99 08-10-2023 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17050417)
Idk who this guy is, but he’s right

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the Chiefs really wanted Chris Jones to be at camp and accept their offer, they should have drafted interior DL before the 6th round in this last draft. <br><br>They didn&#39;t.<br><br>He knows they have nothing to replace him with for at least the next 2 years. They made their bed. <a href="https://t.co/P9mhJZ0uMJ">pic.twitter.com/P9mhJZ0uMJ</a></p>&mdash; ����‼️ (@LanceTHESPOKEN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceTHESPOKEN/status/1689660513364463616?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yes, we should have drafted a 5th round DT as insurance for a DPOY candidate. Maybe Tank or Turk have a son?

suzzer99 08-10-2023 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17050791)
Plan D is completely unacceptable.

Why? Almost all DTs fall off a cliff after age 30. We'll have gotten 80-90% of Jones good years w/o committing to 2-3 bad years (see Houston and Berry).

saphojunkie 08-10-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 17050888)
Can somebody look at history and provide us with a win/loss when CJ was out please.

Since mahomes took over? 2-0. he simply hasn't missed a lot of games

Chief Pagan 08-10-2023 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 17050864)
:shrug:

Our window is open for multiple years if Mahomes stays healthy. I don't envy Veech right now.

Mahomes can put 35 to 40 on the board pretty much anytime he wants. He's proven that. It's not like we have to have a defense that holds teams to 14 to 17 to win. Does it help? Absolutely! But it's not a deal breaker.

With Hill and Kelce and defenses playing single high, sure.

If KC's new LT is solid in pass pro. If Toney stays healthy and/or the WR hype at training camp holds, maybe...

Dante84 08-10-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonka83 (Post 17050922)
Played Dr. Fraiser Crane back in the day.

Go on…

wazu 08-10-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17050937)
Why? Almost all DTs fall off a cliff after age 30. We'll have gotten 80-90% of Jones good years w/o committing to 2-3 bad years (see Houston and Berry).

Because Chris Jones is still one of the best players in the NFL, and THE best at his position. If he walks and we get nothing but a compensatory pick, that is a MAJOR disappointment. Tag and trade at the very least.

And he doesn't get to say "I'll play in 2023 if you promise not to tag." **** that. One year in which he is making like $25M to play or whatever he doesn't get to dictate that.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-10-2023 03:24 PM

Jones is headed to KC!! He has been training in Miami during this training camp

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Headed to KC, Chris Jones? �� <a href="https://t.co/c4pERLx3s0">pic.twitter.com/c4pERLx3s0</a></p>&mdash; Lexi (@lexiosborne) <a href="https://twitter.com/lexiosborne/status/1689732303776354304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hog's Gone Fishin 08-10-2023 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17051030)
Jones is headed to KC!! He has been training in Miami during this training camp

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Headed to KC, Chris Jones? �� <a href="https://t.co/c4pERLx3s0">pic.twitter.com/c4pERLx3s0</a></p>&mdash; Lexi (@lexiosborne) <a href="https://twitter.com/lexiosborne/status/1689732303776354304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Or headed to the dolphins for a 2025 1,and 2026 2, 3,4

TLO 08-10-2023 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17051030)
Jones is headed to KC!! He has been training in Miami during this training camp

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Headed to KC, Chris Jones? �� <a href="https://t.co/c4pERLx3s0">pic.twitter.com/c4pERLx3s0</a></p>&mdash; Lexi (@lexiosborne) <a href="https://twitter.com/lexiosborne/status/1689732303776354304?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

SOMEONE GET TO KCI PRONTO

suzzer99 08-10-2023 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17050954)
Because Chris Jones is still one of the best players in the NFL, and THE best at his position. If he walks and we get nothing but a compensatory pick, that is a MAJOR disappointment. Tag and trade at the very least.

And he doesn't get to say "I'll play in 2023 if you promise not to tag." **** that. One year in which he is making like $25M to play or whatever he doesn't get to dictate that.

I think you're overestimating what a tag and trade can return. The tag is going to be $32.5M or w/e. He'd probably just be ok with playing on that. And no team is going to trade for him w/o working out a long term deal. And the Chiefs probably won't feel comfortable tagging him at that price w/o a deal in place.

Pitt Gorilla 08-10-2023 03:39 PM

Lee's Summit Best Buy confirmation?!?

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-10-2023 03:40 PM

Let’s go Chris!! Get this deal done 😍😍

tredadda 08-10-2023 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17050726)
I agree. Just as him getting the sack doesn’t equal Chiefs most likely not getting to the Super Bowl last season.

The difference is that sack directly impacted the game. It was a close game, Cincy had the ball with a chance to drive into FG range with less than a minute left. They had already converted one third and 16 on that drive. That sack changed everything and forced the Bengals to punt and the rest is history.

Could KC have stopped them on that third down without the sack? Sure. Would Cincinnati have punted if it was fourth and short? Sure. That sack forced their hand and allowed for a good Moore return and a Mahomes scramble/15 yard RTP.

In no way is that sack and his missed one the year before the same as two years ago that missed sack never should have decided the game. It wouldn't have if not for KC's offensive meltdown.

suzzer99 08-10-2023 03:42 PM

On Arrowhead Pride they said Jones could be fined 1/18th of his salary (over $1M) for missing a preseason game. Although they didn't really go into detail on how that works, or if the fine is at the discretion of the team. So maybe he's headed back to KC so he doesn't miss the preseason game.


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