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Mr. Flopnuts 07-02-2013 11:40 AM

So what qualifies? Redneck? I don't think so, that doesn't even apply to all white people. That's one thing, no one has ever come up with any kind of horrible slang word for white people.

Mr. Flopnuts 07-02-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9788287)
Okay, but I didn't really say anything different than what you wrote above. You're weird.

Fair enough. You led the horse to water, and I was willing to drink. I guess I am just thinking it over in my mind and your post led me to the thought of it. So **** you, I'm awesome all by myself. And weird.

loochy 07-02-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788290)
So what qualifies? Redneck? I don't think so, that doesn't even apply to all white people. That's one thing, no one has ever come up with any kind of horrible slang word for white people.

First of all, it doesn't bother us so much because we don't have a history of being kept down. Therefore, it's hard to find a superword to zing us. However, we don't appreciate double standards.

Second of all, Houstonwhodat kept saying "ninjas" and he got banned.

Ninjas doesn't apply to all black people.

Donger 07-02-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788290)
So what qualifies? Redneck? I don't think so, that doesn't even apply to all white people. That's one thing, no one has ever come up with any kind of horrible slang word for white people.

I kind of view redneck the same way as I do the "N" word. No, they don't apply to every person of the respective race, just the trashy kind. And, what Phobia said earlier certainly applies: context is key. If a Black person uses Cracker/Cracka in a derogatory way, that's inherently racist.

Donger 07-02-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788291)
Fair enough. You led the horse to water, and I was willing to drink. I guess I am just thinking it over in my mind and your post led me to the thought of it. So **** you, I'm awesome all by myself. And weird.

**** you too, Honky. Or is it Honkey?

Shit.

loochy 07-02-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9788300)
**** you too, Honky.

Honky Tonk Man

loochy 07-02-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 9788300)
**** you too, Honky. Or is it Honkey?

Shit.

reported and bant

Phobia 07-02-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788259)
ROFL It's not like I'm bagging on white people here. I'm one of them, you know. I'm talking about racism. Drop the strawmen. White people rob people as well, but I guess they don't count.

You have a lot more white skin that most white people too.

Frazod 07-02-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788290)
So what qualifies? Redneck? I don't think so, that doesn't even apply to all white people. That's one thing, no one has ever come up with any kind of horrible slang word for white people.

Some Asian guy in Chicago who was pissed at me called me a "Redneck Hick Farmer from Kansas" once (I was wearing a Chiefs shirt at the time). I had no doubt whatsoever that it was intended as a racial slur. Absolutely none. And neither did the people who restrained me from beating the shit out of him. Holy crap I never snapped so fast in my life. Racial insult coupled with acusing me of being from Kansas? That ****er's seriously lucky to be alive.

I love it when people who live in small towns or cities that maybe see four of five minorities in an average week try to tell me that there's no reverse racism, or that it doesn't matter. Come to Chicago and tell me that shit.

loochy 07-02-2013 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9788308)
You have a lot more white skin that most white people too.

I thought fat people had the same amount of skin but it's just thinner and all stretched out.

patteeu 07-02-2013 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788278)
Absolutely not. You presented your perspective in a way I could relate too, understand, and appreciate.

You needed Donger to point that out to you? An open mind is great, but not if it's so open everything fall out. :p

Mr. Flopnuts 07-02-2013 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9788293)
First of all, it doesn't bother us so much because we don't have a history of being kept down. Therefore, it's hard to find a superword to zing us. However, we don't appreciate double standards.

Second of all, Houstonwhodat kept saying "ninjas" and he got banned.

Ninjas doesn't apply to all black people.

Dude, he was making it a racial slur, and errone knows it. That's ****ing horseshit.

Saul Good 07-02-2013 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788222)
If someone can actually figure it out, come back here and be a decent member of the community, we are pretty forgiving.




**** no. White people have held all the power, and all of the advantages since this country's inception. No one has ever said we are 2/5 human. Just because you were born in the last 50 years doesn't mean the past didn't happen. And while it may not be as widespread as it was back then, it still exists. And current generations have to deal with the pain of passed generations. It absolutely does not cut both ways. And the fact that people think it does, is one of the big reasons why it still exists today.

There are an incredible amount of historical inaccuracies within this post.

"White people" have most certainly not held most/all of the power since the country's inception. In fact, the very term "white people"as used today wouldn't have made sense centuries ago given the fact that we view whites in a much more homogenous manner today that in times past. Italians, Irish, etc. held virtually no power until relatively recently...that is to say nothing of the political makeup of the country prior to the 19th amendment giving women the right to vote.

As for the 2/5 part, I assume you're referring to the three fifths compromise. This compromise is completely misunderstood by most people...yourself included.

Treating slaves as only 3/5 of a person was the compromise. Slave owners wanted them treated as a full person. Abolitionists didn't want them counted at all.

Treating slaves as a full person wouldn't have given them new rights. It would have inflated the population of the south giving it more political representation in congress. The slave owners would, in essence, get an extra vote for every slave they owned. That's not really a plus for the slaves.

This doesn't really take away from your larger point, I guess. You should probably understand the history you're citing before basing your arguments on it, though.

Raiderhater 07-02-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9788235)
You're right, they do. My perspective is, they actually have a valid reason too. We've ****ed them over for centuries. We're trying to change, but we're not there yet. They've never had the ability to **** us over in the world, so why do we hate them again? That's where I'm coming from, but it's worth talking about IMO. I'm open to see things from the other side. That's why we're such super awesome moderators. :)


Two wrongs do not a right make.

Mr. Flopnuts 07-02-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 9788308)
You have a lot more white skin that most white people too.

Ain't that the truth.

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9788312)
Some Asian guy in Chicago who was pissed at me called me a "Redneck Hick Farmer from Kansas" once (I was wearing a Chiefs shirt at the time). I had no doubt whatsoever that it was intended as a racial slur. Absolutely none. And neither did the people who restrained me from beating the shit out of him. Holy crap I never snapped so fast in my life. Racial insult coupled with acusing me of being from Kansas? That ****er's seriously lucky to be alive.

I love it when people who live in small towns or cities that maybe see four of five minorities in an average week try to tell me that there's no reverse racism, or that it doesn't matter. Come to Chicago and tell me that shit.

I grew up in Seattle, and hang out in casinos. So I know. Racism is racism is racism. I changed my mind. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. We should ban anyone talking that shit out of their assholes. Just forgive me if I don't get as worked up over the word redneck, as I do ****er, person of Hispanic heritage, chink, gook, or whatnot. It's a work in progress I guess.


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