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duncan_idaho 09-23-2011 12:54 PM

Of course Deaton isn't going to tell the President of a different Big 12 school that Missouri has an offer from the SEC, or an agreement, or whatever under-the-table thing apparently is there. As has been posted many times, the SEC doesn't offer. Schools have to apply (after getting behind-scenes info that the offer will be well-received, but still...)

Missouri hasn't signed shit. Deaton made it pretty clear in his press conference, speaking for HIS school, that there were talks of the six-year deal, but no actual signing taking place.

Missouri is trying to strongarm UT and OU into making concessions about tier 3 rights, conference offices, etc. Of course, neither is ACTUALLY going to listen to Mizzou, so Missouri is likely out the door.

RustShack 09-23-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 7935245)
Getting a bit touchy, aren't we? Every school, tard or not, would be smart to NOT sign such an agreement until members are ensured equal treatment.

Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

duncan_idaho 09-23-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7935242)
The SEC has no interest in MU.

False. Just false.

mnchiefsguy 09-23-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935256)
Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

Nothing is a done deal until a contract is signed. The last two years are proof enough of that.

Mosbonian 09-23-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935247)
You are the one playing the "if" game. If Texas and Oklahoma are the only two teams ranked over the next five years? Sorry that isn't happening.

No...I'm calling YOU on playing the "if" game.

How about you show me the teams you believe will be consistently in the Top 25? And remember the key word here...consistently.

And if you actually are enough of a homer to put your Cyclones on the list then that will shoot your credibility.

duncan_idaho 09-23-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935256)
Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

It's not a done deal until each school signs it.

Boren was trying to sell that it was already in place (you know, when he scheduled a conference call on TOP of the commissioner's conference call), but Deaton made it absolutely clear that what they had was an agreement to explore such an option.

Missouri is not going to sign that without some concessions.

DJ's left nut 09-23-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson (Post 7935242)
Not to start anything here but why do MU fans think that MU wouldn't be left with the same "no life raft" scenario?

The Big 10 has no interest in MU. The SEC has no interest in MU.

The Big 12 is the best option for MU. This is fact. Your administration knows this. They are not idiots like so many of you want to believe.

In fact the SEC has shown interest in MU. They just don't want to implode the XII to get them. It has been widely reported that the SEC actually contacted MU last season after the B1G implosion when it looked like the XII would die off. It's now been reported by several outlets in KC, STL and OKC that MU had an offer again this year if the XII implodes.

If the XII detonates on its own, MU will be just fine.

And yes, our administration is full of idiots. Those of us that actually follow the University (or, like me, live here and can speak to the day to day happenings around here) have no problem saying that.

Mosbonian 09-23-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935256)
Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

What part of the last 2 years have you slept through? NOTHING is a done deal until the ink is dry....and we've all seen that there is erasable ink these days.

eazyb81 09-23-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935256)
Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

You still believe in Santa Claus don't you?

|Zach| 09-23-2011 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 7935256)
Six years agreement and equal revenue sharing on first and second tier deals is pretty much a done deal. There is going to have to be a huge breakdown here soon to change that and that's likely not happening.

LMAO

DJ's left nut 09-23-2011 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7935264)
It's not a done deal until each school signs it.

Boren was trying to sell that it was already in place (you know, when he scheduled a conference call on TOP of the commissioner's conference call), but Deaton made it absolutely clear that what they had was an agreement to explore such an option.

Missouri is not going to sign that without some concessions.

Borens behavior in scheduling that presser and his spin during it was pretty pathetic.

I'm not sure how you can take the kick to the balls they just took in Norman and still be so damn haughty, but Boren has managed it quite nicely.

ChiefsCountry 09-23-2011 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7935272)
I'm not sure how you can take the kick to the balls they just took in Norman and still be so damn haughty, but Boren has managed it quite nicely.

He is a former politican, that is normal for them.

Mosbonian 09-23-2011 01:12 PM

I have a friend who is a die-hard Sooner and he is spitting nails today about Boren's presser. He feels the same way today about Boren that we do about Mike Alden.

patteeu 09-23-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7935217)
Actually I've very good at math (Accounting/Credit person here)...but even better at understanding just how little contracts mean these days which seems to escape you. If you think that OU and UT won't find a way out of that contract they've agreed to then you are being a pollyanna.

I'm still waiting for you to answer the first question about why you think that the contract will be for more than the PAC 12? I see you've managed to dodge that one.

Why do you think UT and OU's lawyers are better than the networks' lawyers?

alnorth 09-23-2011 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81 (Post 7935194)
I normally like your posts, but your takes are pretty terrible on this situation.

No one with a functioning brain would turn down an offer from SEC - or B1G or PAC for that matter if the geography made sense - to stay in this zombie conference. UT has pushed the envelope since they came in, and the leadership has not been in place to prevent it.

Your entire premise is based on ifs and maybes. If UT gives into demands. If LHN is modified. If the new first tier contract is awesome.

When you have schools like Nebraska, Colorado, and now Texas A&M leave in one year, it should be obvious that something is rotten in Denmark.

You are assuming nothing changes. (that we don't share Tier 1/2 even after Texas said ok lets go ahead, and LHN shows high school games.) We don't have to take anything on faith. If the SEC tells you "you have 2 days to accept. We aren't going to give you any time to see if you can work things out, accept right now, or we'll close the door on you", then you may have a point. (I'm not even going to talk about our 2015 tier 1 contract. Our T2 contract with Fox is freaking massive relative to what they got. Our future Tier 1 contract is all but assured)

I guess its possible that nothing will happen, but that would require an assumption that everyone in power is lying. No one has to sign away anything until the above basic demands that everyone seems to be in agreement on are satisfied in black and white.

I'm saying "ok, assume we're not being lied to, and all that happens". Basically you go to Dallas, make those demands, and everyone says "ok, done", here's the contract. Now what? At that point going to the SEC is no upside and all downside. The only reason I can think of at that point is "I don't care, I'm still pissed at Texas!"


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