You are validated...have a nice day.

Soothing balm.

I've never had a problem with Mizzou. One of my best friends is a MU grad, and I have always felt MU fans were pretty decent, balanced folks. But the vast majority of you have become as uppity about this whole conference thing as a KU fan in basketball season. That is distasteful. You want to go, fine. It's great the SEC is interested, but there is no need to rub it in the other school's faces. So as a fanbase, you have lost a lot of respect from me (and a lot of people). But as far as the university goes, I don't have an issue. I do think you owe it to yourselves and the rest of the conference to make an expeditious decision, that's about it.

If you look into my posts, I am quick to point out revisionist history and distortion of facts, regardless of the poster and topic. I will admit to sometimes trolling some of you. I find it a bit funny some of you don't really know how many people your stadium holds, and I've definitely poked a stick over that.

Hopefully if Missouri does go to the SEC, they won't live vicariously through the rest of the conference, like most of the other conference members do.

I'm absolutely living vicariously through a 3-4 and 7th place football team.

I continue not to care and just wanted to remind you of that again.

I don't think Mizzou fans have been all the uppiity, given the amount of shit poured on by the KU/KSU/BIG XII community. Most Mizzou fans in this thread are cautious optimistic. We know the road ahead is tough, but have faith and hope that Mizzou's brightest days are ahead. This seems to really bother you and others...you can't stand that Mizzou might just do something great. That is fine and that is your right, but don't expect Mizzou fans to take it lying down. You keep dishing out the shit you call facts, expect to get some response from the Mizzou supporters.

I look at your posts and see nothing but uppity and butt hurt.

It's far and away the most annoying thing in college sports. They think if one team wins then all 12 teams get a trophy, and they even print and wear conference shirts that say "SEC".

You can't have a real rivalry with someone today and then root for them to win the next day.

This is true. And the conferences encourage it as well.

Thank god for the SEC........this Big 12 schedule is brutal.

This thread has just been diagnosed with HIV...

It started with HIV, Saul created it..

I think the SEC has done a remarkable job of branding itself. If you want to play big time college football, you go to the SEC. Its a huge recruiting advantage to all of the teams. Even the teams who have been doormats in the conference have improved significantly during the SEC's surge to dominance over the last several years. Even teams like Kentucky and Mississippi State have had a lot of recent success.

As a fan of an ACC school, I can tell you that my happiest day of the year comes when both UNC and Duke are eliminated from the NCAA tournament.

Its because you're reclining beneath my balls.

We tried to get Texas to make a longer commitment to the Big 12 and they balked.

Why wouldn't we want to look like assholes after Texas uses the Big 12 to get the LHN off the ground and leave everyone high and dry?

To quote one of my favorite fans at Arrowhead.... HOW BOUT THAT WOLFPACK?

Too bad you don't have any.

Texas was looking to leave the conference in 2009....

They were looking to leave last year...

They were looking to leave this year...

This is your stable Big 12.

How long has MU been looking to leave?

After Texas started.

You can have the Big 12 without Missouri. If Texas leaves and Missouri is still there? Our battleship is sunk.

Why didn't Texas want a longer commitment to the Big 12 than 6 years?

And you have a commissioner that says the league will survive as long as Texas is a member.

Just quickly looking back, I see that MU was throwing herself at the Big 10 first part of 2010, so at least 18 months.

I'm not trying to start an argument. I really don't remember Texas trying to leave in 2009 - do you have any links to it?

Interview with A&M President; it's somewhere in this thread.

It was posted earlier in the thread.

I found something, nevermind Zach. Texas apparently flew to the ACC headquarters to discuss it.

Did they try any other conference that year or was the ACC the only one?

Pac-10. You'll want to reread the interview I mentioned in my last post.

The PAC10.

It is newer information.

http://www.12thmanfoundation.com/mem...d-article.aspx

Texas are the ones who suck the penis.

Thanks.

What I found was articles starting to pop up around mid May 2009 regarding Texas leaving the Big 12. I also found articles around mid December 2009 about MU thinking/wanting to leave.

Reps. Thanks!!

Actually....no Rep because I must spread some around before giving to you again. So, for right now, you just get fake rep. :p

lol kstater....lol.

At least the border war looks like it will be for position this year.

:evil:

That's it? No wonder you like using the term "butt hurt" over and over, no originality. Here, let me show you how its done:

Yes, that's the way it must look as I'm tea baggin you.

Come on now, give it a good try this time.

I think it's time to start another "new" thread for this.

I've purposely tried to stay away from this thread because of all the bitching by several fans of KU/KSU. I can see it hasn't gotten any better.

ROFL

That's quite magnanimous of you.

Odd how you were the guy who told me I was on ignore....

And seeing how you were/still are one of the biggest whiners how about putting me back on ignore.

I was? When was that? I think your feeble mind has me confused with someone else. I've never used the ignore function on this or any other site.

Hey. Make more predictions.

LOL...nice try as an insult but surely with your superior mind and intellect that you purport to have above all of the rest of us, you could have come up with something better.

Then again...probably not.

He doesn't post much. It shouldn't be very hard to find proof to your claim. Click on his name and find all of his posts and link to the one where he said he put you on ignore.

Glad to help. :D

I assume there will be a new one tomorrow!

There will probably be an MU to SEC thread, but I'm not sure why we would need a 3rd realignment thread to discuss all of this.

I'm assuming you haven't found this purported post where I threatened to "ignore" you? Therefore, it wasn't just an insult, its also the truth, you do have a feeble mind.

Yes, do it.

I'll save you and Pants the trouble....I found it. It was alnorth that has me on ignore now. Because you both argue and whine about this realignment alike I lumped you both into the same person. For that I apologize.

What I won't apologize for is lumping you into the stead with all the other KU/KSU complainers. On that I am dead on.

lol. Dumbass.

That's OK, I lump most of the Mizzou fans into the braindead inflated ego category. Although, I have to admit, I have a soft spot for Frazod. I can appreciate raw rivalry hate! :thumb:

Oh, by the way, Ruck the Faiders!

Oh...that hurts so bad. ROFL

Another butthurt fan.

Oh Ballsack!

LOL....please try harder to be mean.

Right now all I can do is laugh at you.

Don't laugh at me man, seriously.

I'd join in, but I'm busy mocking the Raiders.

Is you mocking the Raiders considered butthurt towards them?

Don't know, don't care.

Not sure why they'd go to the Big 12 Board of Directors meeting in Dallas to announce they are leaving the conference, but whatever.


http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1283061


On Friday afternoon, Missouri officials announced that Chancellor Brady Deaton had been authorized to make decisions regarding the University's conference affiliation. Multiple sources have told PowerMizzou.com the first major decision from Deaton should come in the next 24 hours.

Three separate sources have told PowerMizzou.com Deaton is expected to inform the Big 12 Conference that Missouri will conditionally withdraw from the league on Monday.

There is a Big 12 Board of Directors meeting scheduled for Monday in Dallas. On Sunday, the Kansas City Star reported that Deaton would attend the meeting. Again, sources have told PowerMizzou.com the expectation is that Missouri will withdraw from the Big 12 at that time, pending acceptance into another conference.

While nothing official has happened, it is widely speculated and believed that the Tigers will become, upon their withdrawal from the Big 12, the 14th member of the Southeastern Conference. No exact timetable for that acceptance is known, though most believe it will happen by the end of the week.

Multiple sources have indicated that Missouri is likely to be placed in the Eastern Division of the SEC. PowerMizzou.com will continue to follow this story to its conclusion.

Contrary to what that bozo Keitzman says, the DeArmonds have been all over this story from the start so it wouldn't surprise me at all if it goes down tomorrow.

Makes sense for the SEC to do this quickly...bunch of free pub with the upcoming Mizzou/A&M.

That would make sense. This is being drug out too long and is really painting a poor image for Mizzou.

West Virginia top Big 12 candidate
By Kirk Bohls | Sunday, October 23, 2011, 01:44 PM

Two high-level Big 12 school administrators said on Sunday the conference expects Missouri to leave and will act quickly to replace the Tigers, focusing primarily on West Virginia with Louisville as a strong second candidate.
“I think that’s accurate,” one school official told the American-Statesman. “I’d say West Virginia is the leader in the clubhouse. I think we’ll come out better than before. I’d rather be with someone who wants to be with our conference than anybody who doesn’t.”
Asked why the Big 12 would be upgraded, the official said, “West Virginia has better football than Missouri, better basketball than Missouri, a better budget than Missouri and more passion among its fans than Missouri. They’re better, anyway you turn ‘em. The travel’s not good (to Morgantown, W. Va) but that’s it.”
He added there is support for Louisville, but said a lagging football program hurts its appeal.
The well-placed administrator said Missouri would probably have to remain in the Big 12 next school year because it’s getting so late in the process to find a replacement quickly and an early Missouri exit could lead to financial liability for that school.
The Big 12 board of directors meet on Monday to discuss conference membership. Missouri’s board of curators on Friday authorized its chancellor, Brady Deaton, to negotiate and execute contracts with other conferences interested in the school.
A second Big 12 school official told the Statesman he prefers Louisville because of its closer proximity and said travel to West Virginia would make for too big a burden on the athletes.
“The only place where there’s an advantage for West Virginia is better football,” the second official said. “Their academics is not as strong. If there’s any thought about what’s best for the student-athlete, we’ll go with Louisville.”
Oklahoma athletic director Joe Castiglione told reporters on Saturday that “our intent would be to move as quickly as we could. There may be other issues that hinder our ability to move as fast as we want.”

http://www.statesman.com/blogs/conte...irginia_t.html

Love the two bolded statements above.

The first one: West Virginia has had a pretty easy road in the Big East over the past decade. I think you could put a number of Big 12 teams (Missouri, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, obviously Texas and Oklahoma, Nebraska) in that league over the past 10 years, and they'd do just as well as West Virginia (which fell off considerably after losing Rich Rodriguez and Pat White). I would have loved Missouri to be playing in that league in 2007. It would have been undefeated and in the national title game.

So I don't place much stock in the whole "West Virginia is better than Mizzou because it has been to the BCS."

Missouri and West Virginia have nearly identical athletic budgets (around $56 million). West Virginia is filling its stadium this year (with a new, exciting coach, mind you) at 92 percent of capacity. Right around what Missouri does (though they'd be around 95 percent if the GA hill seats were not counted). So those statements are also unfounded speculation.

West Virginia is better at basketball, I won't dispute that. But that's not what is driving the bus on this issue (in fact, the fact that this comment was included makes me wonder if, perhaps, it was a KU official who said this).

On the second statement...

Again, Missouri probably would have won the Big East in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2010 (and been right there in 2003, when WVU won it despite going 8-5, and 2009).

Also, does anyone else find it ironic that the official made a grammatical error in his comment about academics? "academics is" :shake:

I don't fault the Big 12 for going on the defensive here, honestly I would want to do the exact same thing if the roles were reversed. Of course they want to trash Mizzou as we are leaving and praise our replacement. Everyone is bitter. West Virginia has a pretty solid athletic department and should help keep the Big 12 one of the best football conferences as long as it sticks around.

I think everyone is ready for this saga to end so both parties can move on.

Oh, no fault placed on my part. I just thought it was funny that their spin comes down to saying... well, WVU is better at basketball and then making several claims the numbers show are not true.

I really think the point to it is that with WVU the Big 12 is going to be getting pretty much exactly what they'll be losing in MU & gaining a pretty solid basketball program on top of it.....which equals a win for the Big 12.

You can take it as talking shit on MU, but it is what it is.

Except for the whole hygiene and sleeping with their sister issue that WVU has.

In terms of football and basketball, most definitely the two programs are very similar. WVU's academics are pretty terrible, and many schools tend to coordinate on research projects with other conference members, so there could be an indirect hit there by replacing Mizzou with a school like WVU (and A&M with TCU). WVU does not bring any big TV markets but that is less of an issue for the Big 12 because there isn't a conference TV network. So purely in terms of football (and basketball with WVU), Big 12 made probably the best realistic additions they could make.

Well, yeah....there's that. But I think that equals out with the loss the conference takes in meth production, porn & firework shops.:evil:

I have no idea about the academics of this move, but really - academics have as much to do with any of this as basketball does.

I'm taking it as spin, not shit talking. Just mildly amused by it. Here's some Mizzou spin to counter.

The Big 12 also has to deal with:

Losing four million people in its footprint (net), the No. 21 TV market, a big chunk of the No. 31 TV market. That could be hurtful when the next TV deal comes around.

Losing a strong academic partner.

The geographical displacement of WVU.

The fanbase. People want to talk about Missouri's fanbase being low class, etc? Wait till you meet the folks from Morgantown.

So KSU basketball would face Huggins once to twice a year.... Interesting

What a bunch of bullshit. Porn and fireworks are awesome, and you know it. This is especially true when used in conjunction.

LMAO

Point conceded.

I wouldn't agree with that. I think each conference has different goals for expansion. Academic perception is definitely a major consideration due to the indirect impact on other conference members through research funding and prestige, but that alone is not enough to get someone like Tulane or Rice a major conference spot.

Football, TV draw (either national following or strong local markets), and academics are the main focus points and each conference ranks them differently based on their own situation. Big 12 is trying to survive and maintain its TV contracts so football is the main priority; WVU is a great fit. Big Ten wanted national following and football tradition; Nebraska is a great fit. SEC wanted major TV markets, very good academics to help the league's perception, and solid all-around athletics; A&M and Mizzou are great fits.

where will we get our walnut bowls? oh the humanity!

Is there bad blood between KSU and Huggins? I thought most KSU fans had no problem with him since he helped turnaround the program and gave them Frank Martin.

Of course you don't. Your posts make that point for you. Academics have never been too high on your radar, Plow. :shake:

The quicker the Big 12 can get back to 12 the better. It doesn't matter who they bring in. They are all just place holders until Texas can get Bucklevision profitable, and then they'll decide the next move.

And speaking of host organisms gladly submitting themselves to Texas, nice job by the Beakers to sell their souls to the LHN. That was really helpful...to Texas, not to the conference.