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kccrow 02-15-2025 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17969965)
Cam Robinson had a 72.2 pass blocking grade per PFF. Only 1 accepted penalty to that point. He was much better in our offense.

According to this he had a higher pass blocking grade in Minnesota.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cam Robinson has a 77.6 PFF pass blocking grade since being acquired by the Vikings. He&#39;s been charged with one sack allowed in six games.<br><br>Kevin O’Connell on Robinson&#39;s impact: <br><br>&quot;I don’t know many teams that can lose one of the best left tackles in football and win six…</p>&mdash; Will Ragatz (@WillRagatz) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillRagatz/status/1867266702020313298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

For the life of me I don’t get why people wouldn’t want this kid. High floor, knows the offense, is not a chronic broke dick like some of these other options.

He would be the best pass blocking LT we’ve had since Eric Fisher.

Maybe because he isn't very good? That's probably why. How most of our OLine looked in the SB is a pretty normal game for Robinson. Pressures, sacks, penalties... ugh. Really do not want.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 07:14 PM

What was stupid was trying to insinuate only the Chiefs got an advantage or that Soma did it on purpose. By all accounts he actually rage quit the league because they wouldn't listen to him.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970190)
How many equally successful LT’s have the Chiefs acquired via the draft or UFA during that same time frame?

Eric Fisher.

That’s the list.

LMAO

Well, you know, top LEFT TACKLES tend to come HIGH IN THE FIRST ROUND.
What pick was Fisher again?

Or you pay out the ass for one in free agency.

You found TWO in thirty years we traded for, which were unusual circumstances and want to strut around like a pigeon on a bingo board thinking your hitting bullseyes.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17970192)
You'd have to be in complete and total denial to not acknowledge that field played a significant factor.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Both defensive ends and Mahomes slip on this play. <br><br>The All22 shows how much worse the field actually was. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sodgate?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sodgate</a> lol <a href="https://t.co/xtDfHnLlfM">pic.twitter.com/xtDfHnLlfM</a></p>&mdash; Fitz (@LaurieFitzptrck) <a href="https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/status/1625360270645161987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mahomes slips too lol. And this is one of the few drop backs when you go back and watch that had any sort of slippage + meaningful result. All night long it was Mahomes playing pitch and catch, whether it be the first couple drives that were nice or the entire 2nd half. He had 13 throws out in under 2.5 seconds and completed them all.

Shitty field or not, I know our defense didn’t have fun trying to cover their receivers or pace Hurts in the open that night either let alone rush the passer.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970193)
Matthews base salary is $15m. It's $21m with restructures which...they would be responsible for. So he doesn't save them much over any starting salary offensive tackle.

This idea that you have that since Penix is left handed he doesn't matter is moronic. He still draws every team's RDE/rushbacker. He's a trusted veteran and they'd be stupid to trade him when he isn't all that much cap relief.

So no, I bet that will not happen.

No surprise that you are thinking small on how to address the LT position.

That’s your general trend here.

See your laughable takes on “having trust in the development of Skyy Less” during the 2023 offseason when you were opposed to signing Hopkins.

How did that turn out?

LMAO

xztop123 02-15-2025 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsHawk (Post 17960123)
Love this franchise but how fn dumb were they going into the season with no LT

Almost went undefeated and won three super bowls in a row dumb

What was dumb is the inability to self scout and not be able to tell wanye and Kingsley were incompetent until the real deal

Practice scrimmage preseason

Figure out what we have so we can adjust early

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970197)
Well, you know, top LEFT TACKLES tend to come HIGH IN THE FIRST ROUND.
What pick was Fisher again?

Or you pay out the ass for one in free agency.

You found TWO in thirty years we traded for, which were unusual circumstances and want to strut around like a pigeon on a bingo board thinking your hitting bullseyes.

2 > 1, yes?

Eric Fisher is the only successful example of a LT drafted/signed via UFA during that same time frame.

Name another example.

Branden Albert? Moved to RT.

Kingsley? LMAO

Wanya? LMAO

Donovan Smith? Lasted one year.

DJ Humphries? Unplayable in the postseason… couldn’t beat out a career guard.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 08:01 PM

Wait, what? Albert never moved to RT. He was the reason Fisher played RT his rookie season.

smithandrew051 02-15-2025 08:02 PM

John Alt was drafted.

Let’s just keep going further and further back in time.

smithandrew051 02-15-2025 08:06 PM

The Dallas Texans selected Jim Tyrer in the third round of the 1961 AFL Draft.

I’m sure that’s relevant.

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 08:09 PM

2008-2013 was Albert
2014-2020 was Fisher

That's 12 seasons of LT play concurrently from a first round draft pick.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970207)
No surprise that you are thinking small on how to address the LT position.

That’s your general trend here.

See your laughable takes on “having trust in the development of Skyy Less” during the 2023 offseason when you were opposed to signing Hopkins.

How did that turn out?

LMAO

We won the Super Bowl is how it turned out.

How did Hopkins turn out?

You think it's going to be Matthews? Cool. We'll see.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 08:18 PM

Florida man, indeed.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17970221)
The Dallas Texans selected Jim Tyrer in the third round of the 1961 AFL Draft.

I’m sure that’s relevant.

This guy thinks Atlanta is going to trade their good left tackle because their second year QB is left handed, so I don't he's going to respond to sarcasm.

RealSNR 02-15-2025 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970239)
This guy thinks Atlanta is going to trade their good left tackle because their second year QB is left handed, so I don't he's going to respond to sarcasm.

Chiefs fans really are turning into 90s Cowboys/00s Patriots fans.

"Hey we need this one position really bad. Like... right now. Somebody in the league needs to sell us a premium player at that spot because we said so. And no, we're not paying full price, either!"


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