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The Franchise 01-28-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14077740)
How do you save money against the cap if you are not extending him?

By restructuring his contract. You take a portion of his base salary and convert it to a signing bonus. That signing bonus then gets split up over the years left in his contract.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:43 PM

Yeah, I was kind of wondering that too. You've gotta put that money somewhere.

Also, in regards to the Collins safety talk, theres just no way i'd spend that much on him. He's good, but just no thanks for me.

I'd give half that for Amos and probably be just as happy.

staylor26 01-28-2019 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14077747)
Yeah, I was kind of wondering that too. You've gotta put that money somewhere.

Also, in regards to the Collins safety talk, theres just no way i'd spend that much on him. He's good, but just no thanks for me.

I'd give half that for Amos and probably be just as happy.

Agreed

My buddy’s that’s a Jags fan says they’re probably cutting Tashaun Gipson. He’d probably be a good value as well.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14077754)
Agreed

My buddy’s that’s a Jags fan says they’re probably cutting Tashaun Gipson. He’d probably be a good value as well.

Yeah, he's actually a good center fielder IIRC.

I figure they're gonna be cutting lose a good number of defensive guys from that team. Who all you think will be let go?

staylor26 01-28-2019 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14077764)
Yeah, he's actually a good center fielder IIRC.

I figure they're gonna be cutting lose a good number of defensive guys from that team. Who all you think will be let go?

Gipson and Malik Jackson are the two guys he is pretty sure will get cut.

He said there’s talk of them trading Telvin Smith and moving Myles Jack to WLB also.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14077769)
Gipson and Malik Jackson are the two guys my buddy is pretty sure they will cut.

He said there’s talk of them trading Telvin Smith and moving Myles Jack to WLB also.

Interesting.

I was wondering if they'd let Calais go as well as IIRC, he makes a good amount of money.

Whats he think about them potentially trading Ramsey?

Hoover 01-28-2019 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14077744)
By restructuring his contract. You take a portion of his base salary and convert it to a signing bonus. That signing bonus then gets split up over the years left in his contract.

So I take a portion of his $14.750M base salary and pay it out as a signing bonus, which if I'm not extending him, means it all goes to 2020, making him more painful to cut when I have to pay Mahomes and he's a 32 year old DE...

No, not doing to do that. Too little savings. I want to walk from that contract in 2020.

staylor26 01-28-2019 02:55 PM

He doesn’t think they’ll trade Ramsey, but I reminded him that I was confident we wouldn’t trade Peters this time last year too.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:56 PM

Holy hell they've got some DL making some serious money in Jacksonville. Someone has got to go.

Dareus and Malik look like they're probably cut lose.

staylor26 01-28-2019 02:56 PM

Yea Campbell is also a possibility to be cut.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14077776)
He doesn’t think they’ll trade Ramsey, but I reminded him that I was confident we wouldn’t trade Peters this time last year too.

Theyre gonna have to move some of those defensive high money guys. I doubt they'd trade Ramsey, he's just so damn good. But maybe they're tired of his shit.

Hoover 01-28-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14077776)
He doesn’t think they’ll trade Ramsey, but I reminded him that I was confident we wouldn’t trade Peters this time last year too.

And the Vikings are going to cut Trae Waynes right? They are in cap hell after Cousins and paying their WRs.

chiefzilla1501 01-28-2019 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14077775)
So I take a portion of his $14.750M base salary and pay it out as a signing bonus, which if I'm not extending him, means it all goes to 2020, making him more painful to cut when I have to pay Mahomes and he's a 32 year old DE...

No, not doing to do that. Too little savings. I want to walk from that contract in 2020.

Or you could just frontload or back load the contract and basically renegotiate the deal into an extension. If we got him for less than a $10m cap hit per year... Even for an older guy that's not that unreasonable.

O.city 01-28-2019 02:59 PM

If i'm looking at it right, Jackson would be a 19.5 million dollar cap hit, unless they post june first it.

God they've got some big money on d

staylor26 01-28-2019 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 14077785)
And the Vikings are going to cut Trae Waynes right? They are in cap hell after Cousins and paying their WRs.

Haven’t thought about that possibility but I liked Wayne’s a lot coming out and he’s finally putting it together.

I’d gladly take Rhodes too :)


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