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kcpasco 10-05-2014 09:52 AM

You might be right about Martinez being the only good option right now. But Neshek needs to figure it out because we do need him. You can't just keep running Martinez out there every game for 2 or 3 innings until his arm falls off.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-05-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10981453)
You might be right about Martinez being the only good option right now. But Neshek needs to figure it out because we do need him. You can't just keep running Martinez out there every game for 2 or 3 innings until his arm falls off.

It's the postseason. Today is an off day. They also have Wacha down there. Matheny had no issues with using Gonzales for two days in a row. I don't see why you'd go to Neshek first there. IMO, he should be the fourth or fifth option in that pen right now. He and Choate are really in case of emergency guys.

kcpasco 10-05-2014 10:17 AM

Ya I completely forgot about Wacha being in the bullpen. Bringing a starter in as relief can sometimes be a gamble since it takes them a few innings to get settled in but with Neshek struggling he was a better option.

BigRedChief 10-05-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10981490)
Ya I completely forgot about Wacha being in the bullpen. Bringing a starter in as relief can sometimes be a gamble since it takes them a few innings to get settled in but with Neshek struggling he was a better option.

Of lackey gets in trouble, you bring in Wacha. You tell Wacha to warm up as close as he can to a normal start.

BigRedChief 10-05-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10981471)
It's the postseason. Today is an off day. They also have Wacha down there. Matheny had no issues with using Gonzales for two days in a row. I don't see why you'd go to Neshek first there. IMO, he should be the fourth or fifth option in that pen right now. He and Choate are really in case of emergency guys.

we are in a best of 3 playoff. Win or go home. It's not the time to get someone back on track. To stand behind your guy even if it means you lose and go home. That's just insane.

kcpasco 10-05-2014 11:34 AM

Regarding the Wong miscue, that trick has been around forever. The umpires eyes are gonna be focused on the glove and not the ball. It's a damn fine slight of hand trick until replay went and ruined it.

George Liquor 10-05-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kcpasco (Post 10981650)
Regarding the Wong miscue, that trick has been around forever. The umpires eyes are gonna be focused on the glove and not the ball. It's a damn fine slight of hand trick until replay went and ruined it.

I've seen it work many times. Almost worked last night.

luv 10-06-2014 08:01 AM

Okay, boys. Let's take care of those Dodgers while we're at home.

lcarus 10-06-2014 08:03 AM

I don't know about you Cards fans, but I think another Cardinals vs Royals World Series would be cool as hell.

Marcellus 10-06-2014 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10988160)
I don't know about you Cards fans, but I think another Cardinals vs Royals World Series would be cool as hell.

Most Cards fans would love it. This place would be unbearable though.

BigRedChief 10-06-2014 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10988241)
Most Cards fans would love it. This place would be unbearable though.

I would enjoy it if the Royals fans on here would tone it down some. I'm being supportive and cheering them on and some still give me shit.

I think we would beat them. Yadi takes away most of their running game being the main difference that our team could do that maybe the Angels/A's couldn't do.

OnTheWarpath15 10-06-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 10988354)
I would enjoy it if the Royals fans on here would tone it down some. I'm being supportive and cheering them on and some still give me shit.

I think we would beat them. Yadi takes away most of their running game being the main difference that our team could do that maybe the Angels/A's couldn't do.

You and I have always gotten along and enjoy each other's company, and I hope what I'm about to say doesn't change that.

Royals fans don't need to tone it down. You do.

Paraphrasing, but comments like "Pujols in a Cardinals uniform doesn't miss that pitch twice" and "you have a chance to be great if you do things the way we do them" isn't supportive. It's throwing gas on a fire.

Comments like those come across terribly, and perpetuate this "Cardinals Fan" bullshit that's been dragging this place down for the 9 years I've been here. Personally, I couldn't be happier for these guys, but it's easier to believe the BFIB bullshit when one of us is mentioning the Cardinals in their game threads.

So, a suggestion: In Royals threads, stick to the Royals. Talk Redbirds in this thread. Let them have their moment, as they deserve it without hearing about the cross-state team.

BigRedChief 10-06-2014 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 10988837)
You and I have always gotten along and enjoy each other's company, and I hope what I'm about to say doesn't change that.

Royals fans don't need to tone it down. You do.

Paraphrasing, but comments like "Pujols in a Cardinals uniform doesn't miss that pitch twice" and "you have a chance to be great if you do things the way we do them" isn't supportive. It's throwing gas on a fire.

Comments like those come across terribly, and perpetuate this "Cardinals Fan" bullshit that's been dragging this place down for the 9 years I've been here. Personally, I couldn't be happier for these guys, but it's easier to believe the BFIB bullshit when one of us is mentioning the Cardinals in their game threads.

So, a suggestion: In Royals threads, stick to the Royals. Talk Redbirds in this thread. Let them have their moment, as they deserve it without hearing about the cross-state team.

okay, good points.:thumb:

I am truly happy for those guys. They are good fans that deserve to see a winner and playoff victories.

Marcellus 10-06-2014 01:39 PM

In all honesty I think the Royals have a better shot at getting to the WS than the Cards do.

We can beat LA if the past is any indicator, but the Giants seem to own us and it looks like they are going to beat the Nationals.

If there were to be an I70 WS I would almost have to go to a game in both stadiums.

BigRedChief 10-06-2014 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 10988935)
In all honesty I think the Royals have a better shot at getting to the WS than the Cards do.

We can beat LA if the past is any indicator, but the Giants seem to own us and it looks like they are going to beat the Nationals.

If there were to be an I70 WS I would almost have to go to a game in both stadiums.

I agree. the Royals are the "hottest" team. The WS winner is usually the "hottest" team. We had a nice comebacks in game 1 and 2 but I still wouldn't consider us the "hottest".


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