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OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9269481)
I think Poe would be an even better fit in the 4-3.

Do we face more C-USA teams if we play a 43?

The Franchise 01-02-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269490)
Do we face more C-USA teams if we play a 43?

Yes. We play the Raiders twice a year.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 9269473)
It really is that simple.

It is not that simple. There are some outlandish theories being volleyed about to try to account for Pioli's presence in ATL.

If you're only working on a buyout, you don't bring excess baggage. That's the simple, common sense approach.

You think Pioli needs to meet face-to-face with Dimitroff? They don't know each other well?

Lots of agility needed to justify something that can more easily be put to rest by citing incompetence on Hunt's part.

mcaj22 01-02-2013 04:14 PM

a lot of questions would be easily answered if we knew Piolis REAL contract, what he is getting paid, length, etc.

That would answer everything. The fact that it is some hidden gem makes me wonder why it is hidden, how much is he really getting paid to field a 2-14 product. And seems to be the potential root of why Clark is stuck in this mess to begin with.

Because it should be as easy as just ****ing fire him, like AJ Smith, Rod Graves, Tannebaum, etc. Just fire him. But apparently it's not. So it's either Clark really likes him or the contract.

Groves 01-02-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 9269449)
If I heard that right, and thats the case, I would let him sit in the corner sucking his thumb before I pay him an extra $2.5MM to fire him and let him go get another job.

Make his daily activity to watch Marcus Allen tape from late in his Raider career.

bevischief 01-02-2013 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269444)
And people say I'm negative...

Holy shit.

I want the guy fired too, but I'm not going to ignore common sense either.

It's easy to say, "hey, Clark - admit you ****ed up and fire the guy, it's just money."

There's not a person here that wouldn't try to limit the financial damages before making a move like this.

I was talking more about the posters than anything.

DaKCMan AP 01-02-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269497)
You think Pioli needs to meet face-to-face with Dimitroff? They don't know each other well?

He can't give a handjob over the phone.

ToxSocks 01-02-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9269497)
It is not that simple. There are some outlandish theories being volleyed about to try to account for Pioli's presence in ATL.

If you're only working on a buyout, you don't bring excess baggage. That's the simple, common sense approach.

You think Pioli needs to meet face-to-face with Dimitroff? They don't know each other well?

Lots of agility needed to justify something that can more easily be put to rest by citing incompetence on Hunt's part.

You also need to dismiss a lot of other factors to make your theory work as well.

As a business that is preparing to fire an employee, do you give him a week off before his dismissal, or do you make him work that week?

htismaqe 01-02-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier (Post 9269111)
It's all from whatever "inside" source Petro has, that told him Pioli was on the trip to Atlanta. They've built that into, Pioli is leading these interviews, and still has all his old power.

This.

Ridiculous.

OnTheWarpath15 01-02-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CJizzles (Post 9269489)
OTWP - I respect your posts on this board. Even if you're a Cardinals n00b.

Who would you like to see KC sign at HC?

Who would you be okay with?

Who would you dislike the most?

Like?

Honestly, there's really no one that excites me. If going the coordinator route, I'd probably go Gus Bradley.

But that's not happening.

Clark needs a 3-run HR-type hire or Arrowhead will be empty for years to come - and he knows it.

He can't hire a Dirk Koetter, Ray Horton or Gus Bradley and expect the fanbase to get behind him. Plus, going the HC first route, even if he were to hire one of those guys, who is going to come here to GM for a 1st year HC they didn't choose, who reports directly to the owner?

Clark has pretty much painted himself into the corner of a high-profile guy that wants total control, or has an existing relationship with a solid personnel guy - Reid/Heckert, as an example.

I believe that Clark threw the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and the job is his if he wants it. Reports today say he has no interest in coaching - coincidentally, Clark proactively flew to Philly today to beat Arizona to Andy Reid.

So all that to say no one gets me excited - but I think that Andy Reid is probably the best remaining choice.

He'll fill the stadium, and give the organization some much needed credibility.

His personnel choices worry me though, as does his gameday decision making - plus the fact that his personal life is a goddamn trainwreck.

If Reid goes to Arizona though, I'll be extremely concerned. Not much to pick from that meets Clark's criteria.

DeezNutz 01-02-2013 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 9269512)
You also need to dismiss a lot of other factors to make your theory work as well.

As a business that is preparing to fire an employee, do you give him a week off before his dismissal, or do you make him work that week?

If you've lost all confidence and respect for his football opinions? Yeah, I don't allow him around my organization; he's not accompanying me on business trips.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2013 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269514)
If Reid goes to Arizona, I'll be extremely concerned.

I like Arians as much as I like Reid. What's your take?

Ceej 01-02-2013 04:20 PM

Didn't expect you to explain yourself.

I was just curious.

A rather bleh (minus Geno, potentially) QB class and HC group - both which the Chiefs need the most.

This fan base are such masochists.

Cmd'r&Chief 01-02-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269514)
Like?

Honestly, there's really no one that excites me. If going the coordinator route, I'd probably go Gus Bradley.

But that's not happening.

Clark needs a 3-run HR-type hire or Arrowhead will be empty for years to come - and he knows it.

He can't hire a Dirk Koetter, Ray Horton or Gus Bradley and expect the fanbase to get behind him. Plus, going the HC first route, even if he were to hire one of those guys, who is going to come here to GM for a 1st year HC they didn't choose, who reports directly to the owner?

Clark has pretty much painted himself into the corner of a high-profile guy that wants total control, or has an existing relationship with a solid personnel guy - Reid/Heckert, as an example.

I believe that Clark threw the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and the job is his if he wants it. Reports today say he has no interest in coaching - coincidentally, Clark proactively flew to Philly today to beat Arizona to Andy Reid.

So all that to say no one gets me excited - but I think that Andy Reid is probably the best remaining choice.

If Reid goes to Arizona, I'll be extremely concerned.

Where did you read this?

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-02-2013 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9269514)
Like?

Honestly, there's really no one that excites me. If going the coordinator route, I'd probably go Gus Bradley.

But that's not happening.

Clark needs a 3-run HR-type hire or Arrowhead will be empty for years to come - and he knows it.

He can't hire a Dirk Koetter, Ray Horton or Gus Bradley and expect the fanbase to get behind him. Plus, going the HC first route, even if he were to hire one of those guys, who is going to come here to GM for a 1st year HC they didn't choose, who reports directly to the owner?

Clark has pretty much painted himself into the corner of a high-profile guy that wants total control, or has an existing relationship with a solid personnel guy - Reid/Heckert, as an example.

I believe that Clark threw the kitchen sink at Bill Cowher, and the job is his if he wants it. Reports today say he has no interest in coaching - coincidentally, Clark proactively flew to Philly today to beat Arizona to Andy Reid.

So all that to say no one gets me excited - but I think that Andy Reid is probably the best remaining choice.

If Reid goes to Arizona, I'll be extremely concerned.

The fans would be behind Gus Bradley pretty quickly. He's the type of guy this town would love in time.


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