alnorth is a Kansas guy.

Hey look - another asshurt XII clinger.

Look - I understand that nobody will want your shithole of a school once the XII inevitably collapses, but you really don't have to be a prick about it.

Yeah - makes sense now.

He's just like Rustshack - militantly in support of a back-asswards conference out of sheer terror that the alternative is the Mountain West.

Whatever. I'd roll the dice and take my chances at this point. Maybe MU ends up in the pisswater athletic conference with the rest of the dregs for all I know - but I'm willing to take that chance.

I want this conference dead in the worst way.

Kansas won't be assout. Their BB program is too good for that.

There's a big if you have in there and my very reason to doubt this whole scenario....if the conference re-stablizes. Two years in a row this conference has come close to folding. Tell me what guarantees we won't see this same scenario next year...or the next?

Aren't you the least bit concerned about how OU and UT have suddenly become bed partners? I am....

And how will this league be attractive if OSU, MU and Texas Tech have a couple of bad years. We already have ISU, KU, Baylor and K-State with very little horsepower when it comes to football. Since we are using "if" scenarios I will throw out this one:

If no one but OU and UT has banner years for the next 2 or 3 years, who will want to hand over a check for $300 million to a 2-Horse league?

Football makes more and more money every year for one. Its kind of common sense that a TV deal will be worth more than one signed six years ago. Big12 is still one of the better football conferences. They will be a lot more stable in five years when this happens, among other reasons.

LMAO

Villanova and Georgetown are but a few pretty compelling counterarguments against this idea.

Syracuse is a basketball school only, and they just downgraded leagues for FB purposes. I think that's a pretty strong statement about the importance of basketball in the grand scheme.

Not to start anything here but why do MU fans think that MU wouldn't be left with the same "no life raft" scenario?

The Big 10 has no interest in MU. The SEC has no interest in MU.

The Big 12 is the best option for MU. This is fact. Your administration knows this. They are not idiots like so many of you want to believe.

I'll bet he's working overtime adding to his ignore list today!

Getting a bit touchy, aren't we? Every school, tard or not, would be smart to NOT sign such an agreement until members are ensured equal treatment.

You are the one playing the "if" game. If Texas and Oklahoma are the only two teams ranked over the next five years? Sorry that isn't happening.

TV markets for one
A far more profitable football team for another
A far better football team for yet another.

I do find it funny, however, that you want to claim that the administration that signed off on the hiring of Frank Haith is somehow wiser than the public.

What we all know is that none of us know anything about what is happening behind closed doors. But what we do know is that Missouri is a far more marketable brand as a school and program than any other team left in this conference that isn't OU or Texas.

The problem is you aren't accounting for cyclical events......You are making the assumption that the teams on the rise, MU included, will continue to have good years. In the post to patteau I already outlined the case for worry should the other teams beside OU and UT start on the downward slide.

Everyone is basing their idea of how strong the conference will be on teams that haven't shown a long history of good football. The only Teams that have it in our conference are Sooners and Longhorns...the rest of us are all johnny-come-lately's.

I agree.

Kansas will land somewhere. Ultimately, the Texas/PAC implosion may really save them. Their best slot to land is, IMO, the PAC and had the most recent proposal gone through, KU might have been in some trouble until the B1G decided to move to 16 (I think they're basketball crazy enough to take KU).

KU will be just fine. K-State better hope that KU brings them along for the ride.

(Iowa State, on the other hand, may well be up shits creek)