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pugsnotdrugs19 02-15-2025 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17970061)
Looked at the very least servicable against the Ravens.

Yeah, they sadly crushed his mental with that dog shit gameplan vs. Hendrickson.

But I still remember Justin Houston EMBARRASSING Lane Johnson in his third career game to the tune of three sacks.

Now I don’t need nor expect Kingsley to become Lane Johnson, but it’d be cool as **** if he could be a top-15 LT. Orlando Brown level but in a different skill set.

Speaking of Brown, still can’t believe you tried to credit that horseshit field surface nonsense Eagles fans tried to spew since LVII. All Mahomes and co. did that night was abuse their secondary/LBs getting the ball out fast (corn dog was embarrassing), with a nice run game mixed in. Shoulda never been a surprise that the QB who broke the NFL yardage record that year gave them fits.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970153)
Willie Roaf was coming off of several injuries and was a good bet to never again be what he was in his prime. Dude could barely walk-but he sure could run! We got lucky.

OBJ had taken over for an injured Ronnie Stanley and played well-well enough that he refused to go back to the right side, as it was always his father's dream that he too would play LEFT tackle and make LEFT tackle money. And so he was traded.

and then he thought he deserved more money than we were offering-and since he didn't get what he wanted, he signed with our top rival for less out of spite. So **** that guy.


Neither of these are great examples for your argument.

My argument is that starting LT’s are available via a trade, rather than just relying on UFA/the draft… which you just spent a lot of words agreeing with.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970170)
My argument is that starting LT’s are available via a trade, rather than just relying on UFA/the draft… which you just spent a lot of words agreeing with.

Almost never.

so no, not agreeing at all.

staylor26 02-15-2025 06:57 PM

LMAO

Yea, teams trade away quality starting LTs every year!

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17970176)
LMAO

Yea, teams trade away franchise LTs every year!

It's just so absurd.

I mean, dude found 2 in like 30 years, so yeah, let's plan on THAT.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970171)
Almost never.

so no, not agreeing at all.

Two of the most successful LT’s for the Chiefs the past 25 years were veterans acquired via a trade.

Compare that same success rate with LT’s acquired via UFA and the draft.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17970176)
LMAO

Yea, teams trade away quality starting LTs every year!

What’s the success rate with finding starting quality LT’s in the draft?

Kingsley?

Wanya?

Enough said.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970180)
Two of the most successful LT’s for the Chiefs the past 25 years were veterans acquired via a trade.

Compare that same success rate with LT’s acquired via UFA and the draft.

Dude, are you really this stupid?

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970182)
Dude, are you really this stupid?

Is that a non-answer?

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970181)
What’s the success rate with finding starting quality LT’s in the draft?

Kingsley?

Wanya?

Enough said.

who's your guy?

Who is this mythical trade target?

What team is willing to trade a good Left tackle?

NAME NAMES or shut up.

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970184)
Is that a non-answer?

2 in 30 ****ing years.

Congratulations.

You really owned me on that one.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970185)
who's your guy?

Who is this mythical trade target?

What team is willing to trade a good Left tackle?

NAME NAMES or shut up.

I’ve said it multiple times in this thread… Jake Matthews.

The Falcons are in serious salary cap trouble.

Penix is a left handed QB that doesn’t require the same investment in a LT, when they had right handed QB’s.

That is a trade opportunity.

Just like Willie Roaf.

Just like OBJ.

FloridaMan88 02-15-2025 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17970186)
2 in 30 ****ing years.

Congratulations.

You really owned me on that one.

How many equally successful LT’s have the Chiefs acquired via the draft or UFA during that same time frame?

Eric Fisher.

That’s the list.

LMAO

Sassy Squatch 02-15-2025 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17970166)
Yeah, they sadly crushed his mental with that dog shit gameplan vs. Hendrickson.

But I still remember Justin Houston EMBARRASSING Lane Johnson in his third career game to the tune of three sacks.

Now I don’t need nor expect Kingsley to become Lane Johnson, but it’d be cool as **** if he could be a top-15 LT. Orlando Brown level but in a different skill set.

Speaking of Brown, still can’t believe you tried to credit that horseshit field surface nonsense Eagles fans tried to spew since LVII. All Mahomes and co. did that night was abuse their secondary/LBs getting the ball out fast (corn dog was embarrassing), with a nice run game mixed in. Shoulda never been a surprise that the QB who broke the NFL yardage record that year gave them fits.

You'd have to be in complete and total denial to not acknowledge that field played a significant factor.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Both defensive ends and Mahomes slip on this play. <br><br>The All22 shows how much worse the field actually was. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/sodgate?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#sodgate</a> lol <a href="https://t.co/xtDfHnLlfM">pic.twitter.com/xtDfHnLlfM</a></p>&mdash; Fitz (@LaurieFitzptrck) <a href="https://twitter.com/LaurieFitzptrck/status/1625360270645161987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 14, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Meck 02-15-2025 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17970188)
I’ve said it multiple times in this thread… Jake Matthews.

The Falcons are in serious salary cap trouble.

Penix is a left handed QB that doesn’t require the same investment in a LT, when they had right handed QB’s.

That is a trade opportunity.

Just like Willie Roaf.

Just like OBJ.

Matthews base salary is $15m. It's $21m with restructures which...they would be responsible for. So he doesn't save them much over any starting salary offensive tackle.

This idea that you have that since Penix is left handed he doesn't matter is moronic. He still draws every team's RDE/rushbacker. He's a trusted veteran and they'd be stupid to trade him when he isn't all that much cap relief.

So no, I bet that will not happen.


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