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DaFace 09-28-2017 09:01 PM
I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/

GloryDayz 09-28-2017 09:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13111026)
I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
Done

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DaFace 09-28-2017 09:09 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm_FXPg6YZ/

GloryDayz 09-28-2017 09:17 PM
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DaFace 09-29-2017 06:17 AM
Summary:

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...7_making_life/


Current codename for the vehicle is BFR. ITS has been dropped.

BFR will replace Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon. The vehicles will run concurrently for a while to ease customer onboarding.

BFR should be cheaper to operate than Falcon 1.

BFR has a reusable payload of 150 tons, and an expendable payload of 250 tons.

The upper stage will come in crew, LEO cargo, and LEO tanker variants.

The upper stage will have 4 vacuum Raptor engines and 2 sea level Raptor engines.

The upper stage will contain 40 cabins, along with common areas. Each cabin is expected to house 2 or 3 people for a total crew capacity of approximately 100 people.

On-orbit fuel transfer will be done from the rear of each BFR upper stage vehicle.

BFR's first stage will have 31 Raptor engines.

Raptor has achieved 1200 seconds of firing time over 42 test fires, the longest single firing being 40 seconds.

Last year's 12-meter carbon fiber tank failed catastrophically while being tested well above margins.

BFR will see application as a point-to-point travel method on Earth, with most terrestrial destinations within 30 minutes of each other. Launches from floating pads at sea.

The aim is for BFR construction to begin in 6-9 months, with flights within 5 years. 2x cargo flights to Mars in 2022, 2x cargo & 2x crew in 2024.

ping2000 09-29-2017 06:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13111350)
Summary:

https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comm...7_making_life/


Current codename for the vehicle is BFR. ITS has been dropped.

BFR will replace Falcon 9, Falcon Heavy, and Dragon. The vehicles will run concurrently for a while to ease customer onboarding.

BFR should be cheaper to operate than Falcon 1.

BFR has a reusable payload of 150 tons, and an expendable payload of 250 tons.

The upper stage will come in crew, LEO cargo, and LEO tanker variants.

The upper stage will have 4 vacuum Raptor engines and 2 sea level Raptor engines.

The upper stage will contain 40 cabins, along with common areas. Each cabin is expected to house 2 or 3 people for a total crew capacity of approximately 100 people.

On-orbit fuel transfer will be done from the rear of each BFR upper stage vehicle.

BFR's first stage will have 31 Raptor engines.

Raptor has achieved 1200 seconds of firing time over 42 test fires, the longest single firing being 40 seconds.

Last year's 12-meter carbon fiber tank failed catastrophically while being tested well above margins.

BFR will see application as a point-to-point travel method on Earth, with most terrestrial destinations within 30 minutes of each other. Launches from floating pads at sea.

The aim is for BFR construction to begin in 6-9 months, with flights within 5 years. 2x cargo flights to Mars in 2022, 2x cargo & 2x crew in 2024.
I assume BFR stands for Big ****ing Rocket?

unlurking 09-29-2017 07:00 AM
Berger with an excellent write-up, as always...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...bit-more-real/

Includes a bunch of the presentation slides as well.

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conte...7/09/Spx18.jpg

Hydrae 09-29-2017 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13111026)
I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
Should have been working towards that for the last 40+ years, IMO. Biggest issue with killing the Apollo program back in the day.

FlintHillsChiefs 09-29-2017 08:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by unlurking (Post 13111370)
Berger with an excellent write-up, as always...

https://arstechnica.com/science/2017...bit-more-real/

Includes a bunch of the presentation slides as well.

https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conte...7/09/Spx18.jpg
The question is, how does Elon Musk pay for this? BFR has a huge payload, but very few entities need that kind of payload. For the vast majority, Falcon 9 and the Falcon Heavy are more than capable of servicing their needs.

Donger 09-29-2017 09:53 AM
Me likey, but let's fly Falcon Heavy first, boys...

unlurking 09-29-2017 10:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlintHillsChiefs (Post 13111414)
The question is, how does Elon Musk pay for this? BFR has a huge payload, but very few entities need that kind of payload. For the vast majority, Falcon 9 and the Falcon Heavy are more than capable of servicing their needs.
From the article...

Quote:
Paying for it

It certainly remains an open question as to whether SpaceX can pull off the technological mastery behind the BFR system, but it at least has a start. That raises the question of whether the California company has the funding to pay for it.

Musk seems to think he has solved that problem, as he intends to consolidate the Falcon 9 and Falcon Heavy rockets, and the Dragon spacecraft, into a single reusable architecture—the BFR system that can meet the needs of all its existing clients, and many more. "This way, we will be able to apply all of our resources to one system," he said.

That is, if SpaceX can use the BFR to launch commercial satellites and national security payloads, as well as delivering cargo and crew to the International Space Station, it will have enough of a funding wedge to design, develop, and fly the BFR system. This seems optimistic (a shocker with SpaceX, we know). But it does not seem entirely out of the realm of possibility if SpaceX can leverage NASA and military development contracts to build the BFR system.

unlurking 09-29-2017 10:40 AM
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-conte...4-1440x732.jpg

aturnis 09-29-2017 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 13111026)
I'm in the boonies without a laptop, so I can't embed, but looks like the moon just became a stepping stone.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZm88uhg1yN/
Finally. Why we never colonized was beyond me.

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aturnis 09-29-2017 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 13111354)
I assume BFR stands for Big ****ing Rocket?
Big Falcon Rocket

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DaFace 09-29-2017 01:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 13111838)
Big Falcon Rocket

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Nah. It's definitely a synonym for carnal relations.


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