Mike McCarthy is out there for Josh. I think he has worked with similar traits before

Yeah. I guess everyone forgot we lost the last game of the season to the Broncos 38-0.

Josh short circuited. Football IQ sucks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The 4th down play … ppl are discussing the wrong topic. The question is why did Allen get fooled with this Chiefs defensive alignment. 3 defenders into the boundary to “cover” 1 offensive option vs 4 for 4 to the field. ���� should have gone up for boundary pressure. <a href="https://t.co/YWJcBt8fDx">pic.twitter.com/YWJcBt8fDx</a></p>&mdash; Geoff Schwartz (@geoffschwartz) <a href="https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1883906781686174157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's almost like we played that game like it didn't mean anything. :hmmm:















:D

We don't have to hope.

As long as Mahomes is healthy no current QB is beating him in the playoffs. Period. That much should be obvious...

Last night was different than the three prior. Almost a finality to it. And that's weird to say cause we know we will see these guys in the playoffs again, probably next year.

But after last night, it feels like there is nothing that team or fans could pretend to be happy about until they beat Kansas City in the playoffs... or avoid them altogether and get to the Super Bowl that way.

Until then, nothing else matters. Nothing. They're pulseless.

Meanwhile, Mahomes let's everyone know who's coming. The difference is remarkable.

You guys like to pump yourselves up and tell a bunch of stupid stories, dontcha?

Maybe fans are down now, but after a while they come around and they're ready to go next time. There is no down and out except for the handful of weak-minded individuals who weren't diehard fans to begin with.

Players moreso. I don't care if they lose 10 in a row. When that 11th game comes around, they're gonna believe they'll win it.

Get the **** over yourself already.

So you really think Buffalo Bills fans are going to give two flippity ****s if they beat the Bengals next October? If they beat the Chiefs next November?

That shit doesn't matter anymore dude. Not everyone is like Bungles fans, happy to just appear in AFC Championships. And frankly it'd be good for Buffalo to think that way, clearly the current routine isn't working.

Poverty ****.

I'm saying your stupid bullshit story is stupid bullshit. No more, no less.

Fauker, this is a historic time for Chiefs fans.

Now, I enjoy your trolling as much as the next guy, but can’t you wait until about a month after we threepeat?

Cmon man

My stupid bullshit story that they aren't going to care about winning regular season games next year? LMAO

You sound reeruned if you think that isn't true.

In January 2023, I bet rfaulk never thought the Chiefs would get 2 more Super Bowl rings before Joe Burrow got another win against the Chiefs LMAO

Nah. I'm not gonna even try and ruin your 3peat. Didn't say a word during the game yesterday and there will be nothing during the SB.

In between...when i see something stupid or hyperbolic posted, i'm gonna call it out. Because it's fun. :)

Your stupid story about how that one felt different. Finality. Pulseless.

They won't care about a regular season win. They will care and be ready for another opportunity in the playoffs.

Nope.

But here we are...

Meh, the Bills REALLY value regular season wins. The Chiefs start REALLY caring when the playoffs start.

ROFL

Game, yes. Set, maybe. Match....No.

There is a tweet floating around here somewhere where an OG for the Bills said they kept showing this pressure and sending it from the other side all game long, so Allen shifted the protection to the left.

Whoops.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Bills will be back. We won’t win but we’ll be back</p>&mdash; steven  (@snydxr) <a href="https://twitter.com/snydxr/status/1883721312914571716?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You clearly misconstrued what I meant then.

I was responding to a post that asked if their fans would still go nuts over beating us in a regular season game next year.

I was saying that after last night, those days are over. That is what's final.

Josh Allen and Spags:

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1) The Bills have a lot to be excited about. That team didn't rely on much in the way of older players or guys they expect to lose in FA. Most of the key players they had this year were younger or likely to be extended. And they cleared the Diggs dead cap so they'll have some money to spend. Their cap sheet is relatively clean with only Von Miller as the real headache contract they have.

They'll be better on paper next season than they were this season.

2) Those fans will still see the entire regular season as a preliminary event for the post-season and they WILL develop a cynical shell and cringe like kicked dogs anytime the wheels wobble.

I only say this because we've been there. We know this feeling extremely well. This WAS Chiefs fans before Mahomes. Now its worse for them because they have a truly spectacular QB and a very good HC/Staff. They'd have at least one championship by now, if not more than one, coming out of the NFC. So it has to burn.

It cuts both ways. They'll still be confident and they should be. They still have a badass under center in the prime of his career.

But they're going to be waiting for that football to get pulled away from them again.

LMAO

You couldn't if you tried.

You're a guest, wipe your feet before you come in.

I agree. They started rebuilding their WR room. Now they can put some draft assets into the defense. They're actually in pretty good shape, especially compared to the rest of the AFC.

Thank you for coming to DJLN's TedTalk. This ends the conversation for the evening. Take care, and good night.

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The Bills problem is that in order to fix Allen’s turnovers they had to neuter him and remove a large part of what makes him so dangerous as a QB. He isn’t a good enough in the mental aspect or a precise enough QB to completely master managing the game like Mahomes does.

Without giving him chances to run or throw on a play and actually make something happen you basically turn your superstar QB into Cousins or Goff who’s completely dependent on the play being executed perfectly around him. I was just shocked how vanilla their third and fourth down plays were. I know a lot of that was our defense but whether by design or by Allen just not playing well enough their offense had almost nothing threatening that utilized his big strengths as a player.

Even so, Buffalo was very fortunate to avoid 5+ turnovers in this game. I counted at least 8 turnover worthy plays. Not one turnover in the bunch. Meanwhile Mahomes & Pacheco make one mistake and pay the full price for it.

bias

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Yeah - that's the biggest issue.

Can they REALLY bank on the turnover luck again?

The team could be better and still not have as good a record next season. So much went right for them this year.

And where did it bring them?

Right back to KC.

It is...inevitable.

Nobody really talks about how insanely lucky they've been with Allen's health, because it feels like he's unbreakable. I know the dude is tough, but everybody gets injured eventually when you use them like that. At some point, he's going to miss some time for something.

It's just brutal to keep missing out on these opportunities.

And Dion Dawkins at Left Tackle. Dawkins has been healthy for 99% of Josh Allen’s 7 year career.

Yea, probably the only other injury that would completely destroy their season.

Counting last night's game, the Bills had a favorable outcome on 29 of 34 turnover-worthy plays.

The league average is 48%.

At least we know the Bills will have Allen’s best interest at heart if he sustains a head injury. No way would they force him out there prematurely, right?

Been there, done that!

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But I actually think this is the most likely injury for him. He's had a concussion before, even Bills fans acknowledge that. What happens if he has another? They can quickly become an issue when you have multiple, and we're talking about a guy that's constantly vulnerable to these hits due to his play style.

He took a huge shot to the helmet in the Ravens game that resulted in a fine.

NEVER!!!

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(Staylor, you quick sumbitch)

LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The NFL Films angle of the 4th and 1 play is pretty wild. <br><br>I&#39;m not suggesting this is why the Bills lost, but it really looks like this should&#39;ve been a first down. <a href="https://t.co/Oei3mbzdxT">pic.twitter.com/Oei3mbzdxT</a></p>&mdash; Matthew Bové (@Matt_Bove) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matt_Bove/status/1884023978194526473?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Everybody is clinging to this image because they don't understand how angles work. The one right down the line shows it is ****ing CLOSE. That's the dangerous game you play with these short yardage scrums.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Von Miller vs KC in AFCCG:<br><br>• 0 Tackles<br>• 0 Sacks<br>• 0 Recorded Stats <a href="https://t.co/vwJxiAt4Tx">https://t.co/vwJxiAt4Tx</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Receipts (@ChiefsReceipts) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReceipts/status/1883879390456746110?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 27, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yea, that's not being talked about enough on here. I think it deserves its own thread.

****. VON. MILLER.

You must know he thought he was going to spoil our 3peat and become the first player to win 3 rings with 3 different teams. Those old players are delusional, and I have no doubt he believed what he said when he was talking about how great he is historically in the playoffs (as if he were going to duplicate it).

I saw the play from the end zone cam today and it was actually a terrible throw. Of course Allen was getting drilled.

Kincaid made a crazy adjustment just to give himself a chance. It was better attemp attempt at the catch than it was a throw.

It was the most likely outcome of the situation.

If he would've made the catch, people would've been talking about how great of a catch/play it was.

That's the entire point of the blitz.

Oh for sure. It worked perfectly. I found it interesting though because live it looked like Allen made an awesome throw but from the end zone you can see what happened. It hooked right which was behind Kincaid who stopped and changed direction and dove. Hell of an effort.

No doubt, just saying instead of beating up Kincaid, they should just tip their cap to Spags.

Because we know they ain't going to blame Josh lol.

Agree with all of this. If you remember, prior to the start of the season many had them pegged as potentially in a rebuild and a fringe wild card team. They far exceeded all expectations and were minutes from a potential SB appearance.

A huge reason why they did so well this year despite everything is because they have what is needed to win in this league, and that’s an elite QB. Allen has improved every year and had his very best season this year. His biggest knock was always turnovers and he was unbelievable this year in limiting those. Plus he’s hitting his prime. That Buffalo team was not as good as their record, but because of Allen they came so close to a SB.

Now another reason for that success is an insane ability to generate turnovers while not turning it over. I do expect that to regress more to the mean next year. But their team is getting younger and with a QB like that, Buffalo won’t be a frowned upon destination for FAs.

What really sucks at the moment for him is that he’s playing when he is playing. He’s the Marino in an era of Elway (yuk) and Montana (despite different conferences). He’s the Manning in an era of Brady. While Manning finally earned one (sorta) and was carried to another, that could happen for Allen at some point.

I completely feel their pain remembering this team pre Mahomes. I heard one fan refer to McDermott to Marty and it shows how little they know about him. Every year they played dominant in the regular season only to watch it all collapse in the postseason. Our only glimmer of hope was when Montana took the Chiefs to the AFCCG before getting knocked out of the game against, ironically, the Bills. This regular season success/postseason failure hung over this organization regardless of who the coach was until Mahomes changed everything.

maybe on their last drive they shouldn't have ended it with 3 incomplete passes? or did the refs do that too

Mitch Holtus compared the 2024 Bills to the 2003 Chiefs today. A team with an insane offense, an incredible OL and a defense that was +37 in turnovers but was otherwise not good.

This should be consoling to the Bills fans because the 2004 Chiefs were... well let me check on that...

oh...

oh no

The Bills rode an easy schedule in one of the easiest division in football this year. Patriots and Jets were a trainwreck and Tua missed over a month.

I think a healthy Tua makes the Dolphins a 10 or so win team and I don’t love Vrabel but do respect his coaching on defense. His defense have pushed us as much as any team quite a few times. He’ll make them better. And Maye is the real deal IMO.

Think the Texans could be that next team to get to the AFCCG. They’ve got the QB, defense, LT and a WR. Just need a few more pieces this offseason.

They’ve got a rookie contract QB so they can use money for the offense

The Bengals haven't forgotten. Poor little kitties.

Or not have to continually end up in 4th down over and over and over. Eventually it bites you.

AFC East will continue to be crappy. Buffalo is lucky in that regard, but it’s also weak preparation for the Playoffs. The Chiefs have to go against 3 high level Championship quality coaches in the AFC West. Iron sharpens iron. The division games will be a tough battle, but good preparation for Playoff games.

lmao cringe but i like it

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I think the biggest issue is, Josh Allen can't seem to beat a good QB in the playoffs.

That's the trump card. Anyone can complain about a play or complain about a set of plays. When you have the ball in your hands with a chance to tie or win and you fail, THAT'S why you lost

After watching that play from behind again, I noticed that even if Kincaid had been able to "catch" the ball, he was unlikely to maintain possession when he hit the ground. He had his elbows down and hitting the ground would very likely have jarred the ball loose.

This is gonna need to be deepfaked

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">every single year <a href="https://t.co/GCoyIEP9qQ">pic.twitter.com/GCoyIEP9qQ</a></p>&mdash; Adam Best (@Arrowhead_Adam) <a href="https://twitter.com/Arrowhead_Adam/status/1884079969753784593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The other 11 games is enough. Give me a cakewalk like the Brother****ing Cheatriot ****bags had for 2 decades.

Please and thank you.

When life gives you lemons, you gotta make lemonade out of it. The other 3 teams in the AFC West have hired pretty legit coaches. Not gonna be easy dealing with them. But it can help prepare for the Playoff battles too.

Buffalo had one of the luckiest turnover seasons in history and still wasn't good enough to get a bye or get to the Superbowl. They've gotten very little out of their last two drafts, even Kincaid has been a disappointment. Beane needs to find a fresh injection of talent because they overachieved if anything. Cooper will be gone and they still have no X receiver and a bunch of holes on defense. They'll win their division, but I don't really see a reason to expect them to be better in the future.

Who made this video ?? LMAO as a Groundhog day parody

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i don’t think they called his name once in the broadcast. can’t even say if he played a snap. didn’t notice him once. that’s probably why no one even cared to mention his washed up self

29 of 34 turnover worthy plays had a positive outcome for the Bills this season.

The league average is 48%.

Awesome find! Well done.

Urinatingtree , Steelers superfan I love his “ this week in sportsball” videos

LMAO What the hell was that Copacabana song at the end?

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It was suggested by one of the fans at TBD prior to our week 11 matchup that they should lose that game so that they can beat us in the playoffs.

Someone should let him know that's not how it works.

We lose to them in the regular season because we show them NOTHING while they unload everything they can think of.

Come crunch time in the playoffs, like 4th and 5 or getting a couple 1st downs to ice the game we pull out a new one and close.

Josh Allen is a broken man.

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don't worry, Robert.

I've pointed that out several times.

Now the counter is ultimately that the reason Allen didn't get that protection call right is that Spags rope-a-doped him.

So if you don't want to criticize Allen, maybe just go ahead and credit Spags so we can put the finishing touches on that HoF case.

There lies the question...would have Mahomes recognized the defensive formation and adjusted in that moment?

I would guess yes...and that is why one of them is playing in his 5th SB.

From Russell Street Report. Quality post:

And...

Stop it. This is basic QB101. Numbers vs numbers.

There's no rocket surgery going on here.

They're trying to get pics of Patrick changing Bronze's diaper so they can scream pedophile

Reid probably doesn’t go empty there , but would have either change protection or the play .

It's like watching a man have a mental epiphany. At first he's thinking that he'll come back with experience and some better players and he'll win it. By the end you can see him realizing that even after he devoted his entire offseason and season to getting better and eliminating all the little mistakes, he's still not good enough. It's like watching a man come to understand "I will never get that promotion."

I've always liked RGIII. He was a lot of fun to watch play when he was healthy, and he has better takes as an analyst than most talking heads.