I have to believe this strengthens the Big 12 when looking to future expansion itself. The ability to create your own network could be somewhat enticing to other power schools out there should they have a fallout with their current conference.

But not really any schools that fit that bill at the moment. Notre Dame probably would be interested in something like that, but they aren't going anywhere anytime soon with recent developments. The idea of super-conferences probably is all but dead right now.

And they'll probably end up getting fat raises for it, too.

Is there ANY accountability for these two ****s? Any at all? Christ. I can't imagine people in Columbia are reacting very well to this. What about the donors? Personally I wouldn't give them another dime until sweeping management changes were made.

This is terrible for Missouri, who stood a chance to be adopted by a power conference. It's good for Baylor, Kansas State, Iowa State, Kansas... the ones on the cusp of being mid-majors.

Although the argument could be made that the loss of two teams and the replacement by inferior teams, plus the consolidation of power in the big 3, means the Big 12 is more like a mid-major football conference.

Now Texas is once again like the road captain, letting everyone know those chains are for their own good. Wish they'd stop being so good to everyone.

Guess all these other schools will just have to accept that they have been moved down a peg in football relevancy, while the schools in major conferences have all improved themselves.

If the Big 12 is to become more relevant in the future they need to add quality football progams and lose the millstone football programs.
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Big Texas Press Conference on 810 WHB.

KMBC also covering it.

All this deal is, is a rehash of the Big8/SWC merger...except with even more unequal revenue sharing. It puts the conference on even shakier ground than before. First, the sharing is more lop-sided. Second, we only have ten teams now. All it takes next time is for one team, any team, to leave and the conference is a goner.

Exactly. The conference is even more unequal, the situation is worse than before. Meanwhile other conferences are adding to their power. It's awful. Other than relegation to the mountain west this would have been a worst case scenario.
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Yup.

Nothing solved, nothing gained - only a bandaid to save an unsustainable conference and a whole lot of public humiliation for Mizzou.

Good job, fellas.

I'll say this - for as corrupt and underhanded as Lew Perkins is, he'd have never let Jim Delaney sneak up and anally rape him like Alden just did.

(And Delaney might've been afraid to try it; Perkins might have him killed for it...)

Alden is a boy among men.

:facepalm:

I'm sorry, but this is exactly the attitude that got you played in the first place. You think your program is bigger than it is, has more appeal than it does, draws more from its market bases than it will. You are in a major football conference. You are getting paid close to what the good SEC teams get paid despite not having near the chops to justify it. You got to kepp your natural rivalries, keep your reduced travel time, and almost double your revenues. You're given so much more than Boise State is and yet you make it sound like its "the deal" that keeps you down.

The OSU and Texas Tech bit is the beautiful kick in the teeth.

Yeah, but that's through association via the respective state's Board of Regents, not necessaily because they are "much" better progams. Association has benefits if your associates are powerful.

The Big 12 South (or whatever it's called now) totally used the North as its Fleshlight.

What are some other programs in other conferences that are comparable to MU, KU, and KSU? How will we stack up with them with the new revenue?

All have been very competitive with other similar teams with even the previous TV deal. Will doubling our money not make things even better?

I don't concern myself with how much more Texas has. I know my school will never be up there with them. What I want to do is be up there with other middle tier schools. I feel this new conference accomlishes that. Doubled our income and probably will recruit Texas kids a bit better.

Its froglight, even.

Arkansas is a perfect match, IMO. While Arkansas has a little more football history, it's also been about on par with MU for the better part of the last 15 years. MU also has a distinct advantage in television households.

Arkansas gets about $17 million/season from it's deal. Facially, 2+ million more/season isn't immaterial, but I don't suppose it's worth going crazy over either.

But that's not really the problem. The problem is that this deal will continue to create instability within the conference. The SEC deal was a unified contract that had everyone in the conference happy and ready to move forward. This deal is just going to continue to foster animosity.

Absolutely nothing was solved here, in fact the leash got even shorter.

UPDATE, 10:15 a.m.: Speaking to reporters in Austin, Texas, Texas President Bill Powers seemed to debunk reports that the Big 12 revenue-sharing policy will be changed to a tiered system that was reported here and elsewhere. "We oppose that kind of deal," Powers said, referring to a special bonuses for certain schools. "We will be distributing money like we have done previously."

Powers said he is not aware of any "firm deal" with TV networks and that Texas' return to the Big 12 was based on economic estimates of the value of the Big 12.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...-the-old-boss/

This is good news for Missouri if true. It isn't what we wanted, but the status quo is better than what was reported yesterday.

How much is the TV deal worth per year overall? I guess no one really knows that yet. If the tiered system were true, then it would be somewhere around $170-$180 million per year:

Tier 1: $25mm/year x 3 = $75mm
Tier 2: $17mm/year x 2 = $34mm
Tier 3: $14mm/year x 5 = $70mm

I that is the approximate value, and we AREN'T going to use the tiered system, then the schools stand to see a lot more $$. What are the distribution percentages from last year? If we applied those percentages to $170 million, what would each school get?

Finally, a post from HHG that actually makes a lick of sense.

Wait, what's a "gernade"?

Don't be a dumbass. HHG is a good poster.

So, word is CU will be paying a 6-8 million dollar penalty for leaving the Big 12.

One has to wonder how they're going to pay that when they couldn't afford Hawkins' $3mm buyout.

Yeah, the Big12 will be dribbling that check to the bank.

I'm pretty sure that this is withheld income. CU won't be writing a check they just won't get paid as much next year.

Beebe is taking questions now on 810.

So shouldn't the same penalty apply for NU? That would be $12-$16 million split 10 ways.

No word on what Nebraska will be paying yet, but I assume they'll pay the same penalty CU does.

Beebe said that the 5 schools that were going to be left out were willing to give that money to Texas, Oklahoma and aTm. There are still things to be worked out but those three schools could get all that money.

Okay, I hope you're kidding.

Nope. It could change when they sit down and talk about it but that was part of what those 5 were using to try and keep the others in the conference.

Its a constant reminder that nobody's perfect even though some of us approach it! :D

****ing horseshit if it happens.

Jesus Christ this just gets worse and worse.

That's stupid, they were never going to leave anyway.

:facepalm: ^100

It does sound from the teleconference that even though revenue sharing will not be equal it is based on how many times your school is on TV. So if you get better than you get more money.

Gotta love watching MU bid against itself, eh?

And yes, Alden and Deaton will get a raise for this.

Maybe Texas will confiscate that too.

Money aside 9 conference games in football and 18 in basketball is going to be awesome.

God I hope so.

Is there word on whether or not Dodds was able to keep from laughing while at the negotiating table?

Yep... KU (and I believe ISU) will no longer have 2 years of OU/Tex/Tech followed by 2 years of A&M/Baylor/OSU, which was basically a 1 game disadvantage or advantage depending on the year. The home & home against Texas in BB will be great, too.

https://twitter.com/andy_staples/status/16236705469

The three (Texas, A&M, OU) will get all the buyout money. At least now we know the pecking order.
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If there's no football championship, anyone want to bet that the basketball championship site will NOT move from KC to Dallas? New conference = new negotiations.

ISU played OU and Texas every other year. This year we play them on the road back to back weeks.

Man, this is just wrong in all aspects.

WOW, if so I guess the universities that did this shouldn't be pecksniffian about it. :shake:

Hey UT, OU & aTm schools ..... 4321

This is dead. No more divisions.

I know, I changed it , but not quick enough .

Humiliation upon humiliation, and the pussies in charge do nothing.

I couldn't be more ashamed right now. I think I'm going to be sick.

Ha, pathetic.

I guess that's all the evidence we need to see that there were no hints of other conference offers.

Yep, still better than the alternative.

:e-hug:

I didn't realize you all only played 7 conference games.

This might be the source of the "tier" rumor. (25, 20, 14-17) If true, this is a 1 or 2 year temporary thing, then it'll be based on appearance like before where the football schools can probably expect 17-20, and the others can expect 14-17, with Texas estimated to get another 3-5 from their own network.

eight. 5 in your division, plus half from the other.

The rotation is to play 3 teams two years in a row (home one year, away the next), and the other 3 teams two years in a row.... sucks ISU has to play them both on the road in the same season. Not sure if home/away is the same for every rotation, but off the top of my head I think Kansas plays one at home & the other away... which doesn't seem to help much, but still...

The Rich just got Richer

I hope so! These guys are good for MU and the Conference.... Please MU, dont let them leave!

KU's schedule this year:

September 4 North Dakota State
September 11 Georgia Tech
September 17 at Southern Miss
September 25 New Mexico State
October 2 at Baylor
October 23 Texas A&M
October 30 at Iowa State
November 6 Colorado
November 13 at Nebraska
November 20 Oklahoma State
November 27 vs. Missouri*

7 conference games

And the poor, got semi-richer.

So, when is Lew Perkins going to be available again?

Kansas plays K-State October 14th.

You are missing the Kansas State game.

Nevermind. For some reason ESPN doesn't have the Oct 14th K-State game on the schedule.

I actually have no idea, I havent followed that stuff very much... I am guessing he has one more year?

Shit I dont even know why he is leaving... I am a bad beaker fan right now.

That was not very awesome of you.....

They thought they went to the MWC

FYP

Officialy he is retiring so that he can play more golf. Who knows the real reasons we can only speculate.

ROFL

Is the * denoting a Big 12 vs Big 10 non-con game?

Sure. :rolleyes:

Neutral site game.

It denotes the @ss-beating ku is going to get.

You left out K-State @ KU on October 14

And the group hug ends.

So I know there is a tiered system for football. What about in basketball? Is it all equal sharing or what ? KU makes more than anybody else in bball, shouldn't we be in the Top Tier in that.

yawn

BUDREW Ken Pomeroy said the new Big 12 would have had last year the Best RPI in the NCAA since 2004!!! Wow!