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Beef Supreme 01-21-2020 03:00 PM

We can always just run the ball at Dee Ford. He can pass rush, but we know he can't stop the run.

Clyde Frog 01-21-2020 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 14743139)
We can always just run the ball at Dee Ford. He can pass rush, but we know he can't stop the run.

Or Pat can just throw INTs because he lines up in the neutral zone anyway...

Clyde Frog 01-21-2020 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14743129)
The homophobic posts in this thread are a really bad look. SMH

It's the low hanging fruit. Im sure 90% of the people in here aren't really homophobic. It's all an act for the internet toughness.

ChiTown 01-21-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14743143)
Or Pat can just throw INTs because he lines up in the neutral zone anyway...

It's been a year, and that one still kinda stings...

duncan_idaho 01-21-2020 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14743093)
Niners run a Wide 9 scheme with the front four with Bosa on the outside and Ford on the inside of the strong side. Bosa has been making fools of Pro-Bowl tackles all year. This has been the biggest success for the D-line and if your interior line is lacking, Dee and Buck could have huge days.

In base sets? Or passing downs? Last time I checked, Ford was playing primarily passing downs, about 1/3 of snaps.

Which Pro Bowl tackles would you say Bosa has made fools of? Brian Bulaga? The guy in Carolina who gave up 1/3 of Bosa's sacks in the regular season is JAG.

KC's interior line isn't physical in the run game. It's pretty strong in pass protection, unless lined up against Aaron Donald.

If the 49ers try to run a 4-man front with Dee Ford lined up on the inside, KC is going to run right at him. A lot. And really like it's chances of success in those situations.

DJ's left nut 01-21-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14743115)
The first two drives against Houston ended on third-down drops that would have been easy conversions (Third drive was a legit stop, but that was the only one Houston had all game until clock-killing time).

Same with Tennessee. The first two stalled drives were both due to drops on 3rd (one by Kelce, one by Hill).

The 49ers will be more effective in actually earning stops than either of those teams were, IMO.

I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

burt 01-21-2020 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14743129)
The homophobic posts in this thread are a really bad look. SMH

I agree....but this isn't actual homophobia...its juvenile, pubescent, locker room talk. I bet half the guys that make those remarks have gay friends. I wouldn't let it fly in RL....but here? Just sophomoric humor.

Halfcan 01-21-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743064)
Y'know, I'd ordinarily agree with you.

But Reid's a different cat, man. If someone said "oh no, Andy has about 10 plays he's been working on over the course of the last decade that he KNOWS will work and refuses to use them unless it's in a conference championship game or SB...." I would totally believe him.

Reid's just unique. I could absolutely see him having a 'secret stack of surefire winning plays' that he keeps tucked away like Coach Klein's playbook.

Or more likely, he has planted the seeds of plays the last few weeks so they are on film. The defense will recognize certain looks and counter, except he has Mahomes change the second part of the play to a completely new look they are not ready for.

Hern 01-21-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 14743079)
Where does this narrative come from that the 49ers have this completely dominant defense? Since week 9 they've given up roughly 26 points a game, so roughly half a season. Yes they've been decent in the playoffs against Minnesota and Green Bay, but neither Minnesota or Green Bay is better than league average on offense. New Orleans has roughly similar offensive firepower to KC and look what they did to that vaunted defense.

And as far as their offense goes, they're a better version of the Titans. Through 2 postseason games Garoppolo has 208 yards and 1 TD/1 INT. They've gotten by with dominant running. IFFFFFFF we can slow down the run game they're not that explosive. Double Kittle and sell out to stop the run. I'm not saying this is an easy game but SF isn't this behemoth the media has made them out to be.


Like you guys say... context.

9ers have been injured the back half of the schedule that’s why the dip in stats. Finally got fully healthy vs Vikings.

burt 01-21-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14743146)
It's the low hanging fruit. Im sure 90% of the people in here aren't really homophobic. It's all an act for the internet toughness.

Damn....beat me by 8 minutes!

O.city 01-21-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)
I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Chris Simms did a deep dive on the Chiefs offense on his recent post game pod. Specifically Mahomes. He's just locked in. If the 9ers don't get pressure with 4 quickly, he'll carve them up. It doesn't matter what they do on the back end.

burt 01-21-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)


The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Thread Winner. {Drops mic}

Hern 01-21-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 14743167)
I agree....but this isn't actual homophobia...its juvenile, pubescent, locker room talk. I bet half the guys that make those remarks have gay friends. I wouldn't let it fly in RL....but here? Just sophomoric humor.


It saddens me that you wouldn’t let it fly IRL but are more than ok participating here. Believe it or not, there is some gay posters in your forum and I bet they don’t appreciate it.

But since it’s “locker room talk” y’all get the green light to be homophobic and racist (nothing racist was said, just using it as an example of were is the line drawn).

O.city 01-21-2020 03:17 PM

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Just replace "It was John Wick's car they stole" with "The Chiefs offense is healthy and Mahomes is rolling".

DC's know.

DJ's left nut 01-21-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743185)
It saddens me that you wouldn’t let it fly IRL but are more than ok participating here. Believe it or not, there is some gay posters in your forum and I bet they don’t appreciate it.

But since it’s “locker room talk” y’all get the green light to be homophobic and racist (nothing racist was said, just using it as an example of were is the line drawn).

At least a handful more of 'em this week...


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