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oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12520105)
Oh **** me, do your homework if you're going to talk out your ass.

Russell Wilson pre-dated Reid by 2 years. He was a Pioli ****up. Exactly when was he there for Reid to have but/for Smith's contract? If you can't even get THAT right I'm not sure how much any of us should give a shit about your brilliant insight.

And kindly direct me to all the guys that had Prescott pegged as a sure thing. The Cowboys struck lightening but had we taken him in the 4th, people would've bitched that we didn't take a first round QB. Oh, and but/for Romo AND Kellen Moore getting injured, Prescott isn't starting right now either. There's a lot of luck that went into the Cowboys falling into Prescott. They have little more invested in him than we had in Murray, Bray or Hogan.

Why are ppl still talking about Prescott cowboys have been chiefsing it up and keep saying its still romo's job and he will start when he gets back.

DJ's left nut 10-31-2016 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12520099)
Plus talent is better than average, not sure why you're stuck on that in particular... I'm not acting like its elite, but you're acting like he is some kind of friggin Ty Detmer noodle launcher

But you're on a roll with this subject today, so have at it... I guess Reid drafted Foles, then brought him here because he doesnt fit the scheme

I guess Reid agrees that Smith fits the scheme a lot better than Foles, afterall he invested a hell of a lot more to get Smith than he ever invested to get Foles.

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12520119)
I guess Reid agrees that Smith fits the scheme a lot better than Foles, afterall he invested a hell of a lot more to get Smith than he ever invested to get Foles.

Better to be right and losing then Wrong and wining should be a motto of the chiefs.

Ming the Merciless 10-31-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12520112)
Completion% /= accuracy.

It's a fair proxy, but Smith's % improved because he understood timing/rhythm in the offense and became more conservative. He's no more capable of routinely putting the ball in a bucket than he ever was, he just chooses easier/smarter buckets to throw it at.

Whatever the reason he is flourishing under reid's system and he wasnt prior, except for in his last year with SF, which was only partial season and a statistical outlier.

I think you're stretching/reaching with your explanation and I absolutely think the system makes all the difference...alex smith is a good example of that as is Foles because you can look at his work with the right system for him in Philly versus his work with the Rams and its another example...

In any case its a minor point , but as completion % is the best measure of accuracy that we have currently....its clear to see that going from 59% to 64% is indeed a huge improvement in accuracy

Easy 6 10-31-2016 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12520119)
I guess Reid agrees that Smith fits the scheme a lot better than Foles, afterall he invested a hell of a lot more to get Smith than he ever invested to get Foles.

None of that changes the fact that your assertion that Foles is a bad fit for this team is wrong

I knew this was never going to be a controversy in the first place, Reids been rolling with Smith for 3+ years now and is 15-2 in the last 17 games with him... you dont bench the guy who brought you to this point

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12520141)
None of that changes the fact that your assertion that Foles is a bad fit for this team is wrong

I knew this was never going to be a controversy in the first place, Reids been rolling with Smith for 3+ years now and is 15-2 in the last 17 games with him... you dont bench the guy who brought you to this point

Unless your name is Jim harbaugh and you got a big ol pair of balls.

Coochie liquor 10-31-2016 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11 (Post 12519646)
If the Chiefs throw Smith back out there in harm's way...I'll be looking forward to it.

:shake::facepalm:

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:29 PM

It's funny for people who aren't from the bay SF fan's were literally calling in and cheering when smith lost the job to kap.

Chiefs fan's went full eeyore and didn't expect change anyways it's sad.

Baby Lee 10-31-2016 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12520155)
Unless your name is Jim harbaugh and you got a big ol pair of balls.

Do you have any idea how reeruned you sound referring to anything about the 49ers situation under Harbaugh in reference to present-day Chiefs?

Every single bit of that scenario was a fail. They got to the SB in the short term because they were already too good a team all around at that point not to. But the QB decision was a key factor in their failure there and presaged a complete dissolution of pending dynasty.

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12520190)
Do you have any idea how reeruned you sound referring to anything about the 49ers situation under Harbaugh in reference to present-day Chiefs?

Every single bit of that scenario was a fail. They got to the SB in the short term because they were already too good a team all around at that point not to. But the QB decision was a key factor in their failure there and presaged a complete dissolution of pending dynasty.

http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/0...ut-a-bold-move

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ver-alex-smith

Its a common chiefs fan misconception that you think 49er fans regret that trade They don't most fan's were glad to see him go.

Baby Lee 10-31-2016 03:35 PM

Hey, memba when Chrysler made the K-Car!!

http://1.images.comedycentral.com/im...e&quality=0.91

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:35 PM

A crap owner and a power hungry GM destroyed the 49ers not Harb's there was a mass exodus of talent went harb was fired.

Ming the Merciless 10-31-2016 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12520186)
It's funny for people who aren't from the bay SF fan's were literally calling in and cheering when smith lost the job to kap.

Chiefs fan's went full eeyore and didn't expect change anyways it's sad.

very

I have watched him since 2005, wife is a niners fan...

I will give credit to him for breaking the 93 curse (no playoff win since 93). He was good enough to do that. That was pretty big. We need to build on that now.

Baby Lee 10-31-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12520195)
http://www.nfl.com/superbowl/story/0...ut-a-bold-move

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ver-alex-smith

Its a common chiefs fan misconception that you think 49er fans regret that trade They don't most fan's were glad to see him go.

I don't have any misconceptions of their sentiments at the time.

But the plain truth is, they're been on an express train to Browns Town ever since.

oaklandhater 10-31-2016 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12520200)
very

I have watched him since 2005, wife is a niners fan...

I will give credit to him for breaking the 93 curse (no playoff win since 93). He was good enough to do that. That was pretty big. We need to build on that now.

This only Chiefs fan's not from Cali act like the Chiefs got the upper hand on the 49ers.

Fan's would be pissed if Alex came back right now.


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