I've given up on MJ. I know many in here said they had to give him another chance and he's still young but he's got no use to me.

I just don’t understand why they don’t let him try to work shit out in Omaha. They did it for Gordon and Moose, and it worked for them.

The guy sucks. :shake:

He is what he is at this point. Barely a .200 hitter

Buy MJ stock now with this endorsement

Can we just switch our outfield out with Omaha's? Is that allowed?

seems like Drew Waters could give us a little more pop in the outfield....didnt he just hit a cycle? Royals dont like him in the bigs for some reason

Mozzicato was just a stupid pick. I trashed it at the time, and it has just not worked out.

Don't take small, "projectable" pitchers from bad-weather states. It's pretty simple.

oh, but we can develop him..thats why I like the Jac pick, at least he has a superpower

I haven't given up on him, but he needs to go to Omaha/Arkansas and figure things out.

He's not a big league caliber player right now.

I gave up on him last year and was trying to be very very slightly optimistic about him coming into this year. But it’s obvious he’s trash that shouldn’t be on a mlb roster

MJ is cannon fodder, any experts out there that have an outfield plan going forward?

It actually is.

The Future is bright

Not a pitcher, but Mike Trout would like to have a word….

And I could list dozens of pitchers from “bad weather” places that worked out.

Say what you want about Mozzicato, but you know as much as the rest of us. We’ve already got that one who sucks the penis KCC shitting on every thread with his knowledge, for the love of Christ, please don’t be that guy here.

And most of the 2021 draft was poop.

Hes had all off season and spring to work on his hitting. If he couldnt do it then, he cant do it now. A "Mendoza Line" hitter, which we already have in center field. I always figured a team could get by with 1 Mendoza line hitter in the lineup, but not 2, and we actually have 3, when Renfroe is in the lineup. Kind of frustrating.

We made the post season with that outfield, last year. Kind of amazing the more you think about it.

We did a lot of that on the backs of GREAT starting pitching and with a bullpen (Erceg) that was really good at the end of the season. Banking on a repeat of that seems like a bad bet.

Speaking of KCC, wonder how he's taking the 'breaking news' of Vlad signing his $500 million dollar deal to stay with the Jays, given his previous comments in the Royals thread for his 'love' of Vlad and all . . . . .

Look at the Northwest Arkansas guys stats so far. I know it is only 3 games but good to see.

Cags
Nivens
Jensen
Cross

Could be 3 good sluggers out of that group.

I'm talking about HS pitchers. Which are the lowest hit-rate draft asset to chase, to begin with. When you start delving into guys who are "Projectable" (where you're projecting velocity adds as they mature and develop into men), the rate drops again. And it drops even lower when they're bad-weather state arms.

Mozzicato, at the time of his draft selection, was viewed as a late first/comp round/second round pick value. He had a good feel for spin and had been clocked into the low 90s, but usually sat 88-90.

The Royals took him because they clearly believed he'd add some good weight and increase his velocity.

That hasn't happened at all. He's stalled out at A+. Yes, still time for him to move forward, but the velocity has never jumped consistently. He's still sitting 87-90 for the most part.

Ben Kudrna has come along a little more than Mozzicato, but he also was already throwing quite a bit harder as a high school guy.

The hit rate on high school pitchers from bad-weather states (and short baseball seasons) is the worst you're going to find in a prospect bucket. Yes, there are exceptions. I think a guy KC drafted last year, David Shields, might be one of those (he also was only 17 when drafted and already sitting 92-94). But the risk is so high, KC should just NOT be using its 1st round pick on these types of pitchers.

You want to dabble with some guys in round 2-3? Go right ahead.

And I'm not shitting on the thread. I'm sharing my take on a guy (which IS informed by more than just reading stat lines, BTW). I haven't seen him in person yet because he hasn't made it to Northwest Arkansas or Omaha yet.

KC wasn't connected to Mozzicato at all prior to that pick. They were connected to Kumar Rocker, Brady House, Sal Frelick, and Matt McClain, though. And every single one of those guys would have been a much, much better pick.

Rocker had some injury concerns and signiability issues. But House and Frelick would have been very KC-like picks. McClain, too.

It's not as bad as Dayton Moore and staff (but mostly Dayton, I recently was told) put the kaibosh on drafting Chris Sale because "he's vulgar, and we already have great LHP depth, and we need a SS in the system" and taking Christian Colon instead, but it isn't good, either.

Brady House would have been a nice pick.

Like what I've seen from him in the minors and the thought of pairing him with Witt on the left side of that infield would have been fun. Still just 21 and knocking on the Major League door this year . . . .

Not well. There's a 99% chance that deal ends up being the worst in baseball history.

You obviously don't know who you are talking to.

The Royals could use a 30-40 HR per year guy.

At 35M a year for 14 years? Good luck with that.

I really like what we are seeing from Bubic. I think the kid has found his form and ends up being the second or third best starter on the team.

We have one on the way for a LOT cheaper.

We may just have to wait a few months to see him . . . . .

It seems like the Miguel Carbrera contract all over again.

It is except he’s not as good as Cabrera was. He’s shown seasons of being that good, I suppose, but nothing consistent.

Cabrera signed that huge contract when he was 31 and had won several MVPs. Vlad has 2 good seasons, nothing near what Miggy was doing.

Signing Jr. to that type of deal would scare the living shit out of me were I a Blue Jays fan.

Doesn't scare me at all (the back half will be horrible regardless of what happens in the first half, there's really no doubt about that), it frustrates me. There's very little chance he'd have gotten this deal on the open market.

Why? The Blue Jays are owned by Rogers, a mega media congomerate in Canada. They have an open pit of money and their whole market is a nation. They should keep their own homegrown stars.

$500 mil guaranteed for an overweight 1B that probably won't even be in the league at the end of the contract.

..... Five hundred million. You pay that to generational talent, which he is not. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I might be wrong, but aren’t they paid in Canadien funny money? Canadian currency is usually valued at around 2/3 of US currency.

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Cold but beautiful night for a game. Not sure why Garcia is DHing while India plays 3B, but whatever…

Are you sitting by Denny or something?

Ha, nah. Just in the work seats.

That’s the spot. Fingers crossed.

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The Jays already missed the window to trade Guerrero. Their farm system sucks and their division is brutal. Soto and Ohtani turned down their money.

They had no choice but to extend Guerrero, sadly. Their big market fan base would have revolted had he walked. They would have been stuck with a roster highighted by Anthony Santander, Daulton Varsho, Kevin Gausman and Andres Gimenez had he walked with no prominent young reinforcements.

They probably won't even see a young player of Guerrero's caliber for at least 4-5 years.

Did this turn into a hybrid royals BJ's thread?

RIP Octavio Dotel. He was pulled from the rubble of a DR nightclub after the roof collapsed and sadly succumbed to his injuries. Pitched briefly for the Royals in 2007. He was 51.

That' horrible.
RIP

Only Blue Jay I will recognize and the greatest Blue Jay ever:

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So close to being a Royal as well.

I like the lineup for the royals Tonight

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That crack off the bat sounds like a ****ing gunshot. Annnnd, I have a boner now.

First and last weeks of May, Naturals are in Springfield if anyone wants to see Jac

I figured he'd have to go through some pain early on. He probably still will have to deal with adjustments. But man, he's looking good.

Sounds pretty terrible. Apparently over 50 dead, with former MLBer Nelson Cruz's sister among those who died.

Believe what you heard.

Cross, Jensen and Jac standing at the plate after that bomb....time to foreshadow..

Cole Ragans with another great outing.

In the minors we have something brewing down in AA.I have a feeling Jac is going to be moving onto AAA very quickly. Carter Jenson should be moving on too. He's already at 252 games played in AA.

I haven’t been following, but are they getting Jac reps in the OF? My hope is that he can eventually kick Renfro to the curb. He’s probably not making his major league debut until ‘26, but a guy can dream, can’t he?

He has yet to play an inning in the OF, from what I can see.

I’d say you run this lineup if he gets the call:

India - 3B
Witt - SS
Pasquantino - 1B/Dh
Perez - C
Massey - 2B
Caglianone - 1B/DH
Garcia - RF
Melendez - LF
Isbel - CF

God damn he is one big human

I read somewhere that the team intended to give him outfield reps once he arrived at AAA. Keep building confidence in that swing in the interim.

It's gonna be a big ask to have Cags play RF in Kaufman Stadium.

Yeah, replacing someone with the defensive prowess of Melendez/Cahna/Renfroe is going to be HUGE!

Renfroe's defense has been a huge disappointment. He was billed as a great Defensive player with some pop in the bat. He has been far from a great defensive player, from what I've been watching the past year... In fact, i'd say he's mediocre at best in the OF.

Jac in the Kauffman outfield would make Renfroe look like LoCain.

Ok

He can't cover the ground.

One of the reasons Renfroe looks so rough in RF is that he isn't fast enough to cover all the real estate out there.

I think Melendez is actually fast enough to do it, and he sometimes takes excellent routes. The issue is that his routes aren't always consistent.

I don't see a reality where Caglianone could play RF in the K on a consistent basic. The guy just isn't a fast mover.

Hey I'm not the one saying he needs to come up and play RF.

I'm only making a point that Melendez/Cahna/Renfroe all suck. Why Picollo/Sherman couldn't pony up some cash for us to get a semi-decent outfielder is beyond me.

So you're taking Perez's bat out of the lineup for Fermin's?

Only when Salvy needs some rest. Fermin is going to see a whole lot of the bench when Jac is on the ML team.

Also, even though he doesn't have the speed required to play RF in Kauffman doesn't mean he can't play it on the road in a stadium that isn't so huge.

Can't catch Salvy every day. Especially later in the year. Fermin is going to have to play.

Did you miss the whole reply?

No, but he did read the part he wanted to read

No, but for every day of rest Salvy needs, you've basically removed the option for DH'ing him. And Salvy will need more days off this year than last, hypothetically.

I would DH Perez selectively, likely against lefties, and give him some days off against righties.

Figure … 110 GS at C
30 G at DH
20 days off

Or thereabouts.

That sounds better.

My question why do the royals start at 6:40 instead of like 6 or 5:30?

Canha to the IL, Waters called up. But will he actually play?

I don't know the reason why, but being in the Eastern Time Zone I like not having to stay up past 11 PM on a weeknight to watch the end of the game.

So the game can still be in prime time tv and let attendees get home sooner

Got a few thoughts after two weeks of play... Overall, I'd give things a solid B. Going 7-6 against Cleveland, Milwaukee, Baltimore and Minnesota is nothing to be upset about to start the season. Most of the wins haven't been pretty, but it ain't a beauty contest.

Pitching has picked right up where it left off from last season. Starters more or less pitching to expectation, while Bubic has been dynamite since his return to the rotation after spending a year on the IL, and then throwing out of the pen last year upon his return. Speaking of the bullpen. No complains. Stratton will likely pitch his way out within the next month, and by then there should be several dudes ready to step in and immediately be an improvement. As long as we don't see any extended injuries, I think the pitching will likely be a consistent strength all year.

The Offense has also picked right up where they left off from last season, unfortunately, that is NOT something to be happy about. I'm actually a little surprised we're a game over .500. We've just barely scratched out enough runs to squeak by in several games already, along with some help from our foes subpar defense. Good news is that there is no way these guys are this bad. Aside from BWJ and Garcia, we're trotting out complete dogshit right now. And loud outs are still outs, as unlucky as they are. But that luck will likely turn around for us at some point, right?

If it was up to me, I'd have Waters playing at least 5 days a week while Canha and Blanco are out with Renfroe and MJ not hitting their weight. Even if he sucks, the defense should be a little tighter until he inevitably gets sent back down in a couple weeks. Renfroe and MJ will still get their AB's of course. Fact is, somebody has to step up out there, and if it doesn't happen by the 40 game mark, I'd expect a move could be on the horizon if we're still around .500(or hopefully a little better). But it won't be cheap. JJ will likely have to move someone from the Carter Jensen, Blake Mitchell(he'll be back playing this weekend in extended ST before getting his assignment, so that's good news after the hamate surgery), Ben Kudrne, or Noah Cameron crew, possibly a combo thereof, along with someone from the ML level, possibly Marsh, Lynch, or Zerpa would be part of a deal. Otherwise we ain't getting jack shit in return.

But anyway, I like how things are going so far for the most part. Got a winning team, and our offense has been ****ing dreadful. If we can get some offense clicking on a semi-consistent basis, I think this is gonna be a fun Summer. But this big road trip through Cleveland, NYY and Detroit won't be easy. If we come back to KC at .500 or better, I'll be thrilled.