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jerryaldini 12-29-2024 06:17 PM

That's the play the Broncos couldn't execute

mr. tegu 12-29-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azide22 (Post 17882841)
Lions win the division with a win next week regardless. Assuming Minnesota hangs on (getting tight!), they lose the Division if they lose - tomorrow's game has.no impact unless Minnesota loses somehow today.

It will be a 2 way tie - cant be 3 way tie.

The Lions would win tiebreaker over Eagles with better conference record. So... you're correct, tomorrow's game doesn't matter, UNLESS Vikings blow today's game.


Yeah you are right the division tie breaker between the Vikings and Lions is first so the three way tie based on record with the Eagles doesn’t have an impact.

Bearcat 12-29-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882852)
Especially this quarter

I was hoping it was a blind joke.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882856)
I was hoping it was a blind joke.

Jokes work better when they also contain truths

displacedinMN 12-29-2024 06:20 PM

Reichart looks like he is 15

tk13 12-29-2024 06:21 PM

Will the Vikings pass on 3rd down is the million dollar question...

tk13 12-29-2024 06:21 PM

Or 2nd down.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:21 PM

Must be nice to have a guy who makes catches like that

scho63 12-29-2024 06:22 PM

Minnesota's kicker looks like a teenager

displacedinMN 12-29-2024 06:22 PM

damn lucky there Minn

Easy 6 12-29-2024 06:22 PM

Went in the kitchen to putter around getting dinner ready and now GB is only down 2?!:eek:

WOW

Megatron96 12-29-2024 06:22 PM

Dagger

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:23 PM

Bad under throw by Darnold but it works out

Frazod 12-29-2024 06:23 PM

Games like this are really fun to watch when they don't involve the Chiefs.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:23 PM

Detroit is in danger next week

displacedinMN 12-29-2024 06:24 PM

Vikes have let the pack back in 2x this season.

and this is a one score game. Should be winning by more :)

jerryaldini 12-29-2024 06:24 PM

OConnell is so good

tk13 12-29-2024 06:24 PM

Vikings usually Viking but you could make a decent argument they're going to be the best coached team in the NFC playoffs, except for maybe the Rams.

St. Patty's Fire 12-29-2024 06:24 PM

vikings/lions for the one seed

gonna be ****ing EPIC

Chiefspants 12-29-2024 06:24 PM

Darnold with very unCousins throws to win it.

Azide22 12-29-2024 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17882855)
Yeah you are right the division tie breaker between the Vikings and Lions is first so the three way tie based on record with the Eagles doesn’t have an impact.

One other thing - if Lions lose tomorrow, a tie would be the same as a loss next week

If they win, that same tie is the same as a win.

Bearcat 12-29-2024 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882858)
Jokes work better when they also contain truths

So... it was a blind joke?

Because you clearly don't even know that Darnold leads every passer-specific stat within the QBR stat you've mentioned like 10 times now over Love and only trails overall QBR because he's been sacked a ton.... that's about as blind as you can get.

wazu 12-29-2024 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryaldini (Post 17882873)
OConnell is so good

Yep. Should be Coach of the Year by a mile for what he's done.

tk13 12-29-2024 06:27 PM

The other big thing is now Washington can win out and move up the ladder.

They win tonight and next week they can move up and stick the Packers with the 7 seed and a trip to Philly.

Azide22 12-29-2024 06:28 PM

Eagles locked into the 2 seed now too.

Azide22 12-29-2024 06:29 PM

We know what the late game will be now. What other games really matter?

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azide22 (Post 17882885)
We know what the late game will be now. What other games really matter?

The Wentz game is the 2nd most important game of next week in the NFL

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882879)
So... it was a blind joke?

Because you clearly don't even know that Darnold leads every passer-specific stat within the QBR stat you've mentioned like 10 times now over Love and only trails overall QBR because he's been sacked a ton.... that's about as blind as you can get.

That’s nice, Darnold is still the 2024 version of Purdy though

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:33 PM

Purdy led the league in QBR last year, I wonder what happened this season

Bearcat 12-29-2024 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882895)
That’s nice, Darnold is still the 2024 version of Purdy though

Sucks that Love is worse than 2023 Purdy. :shrug:

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882900)
Sucks that Love is worse than 2023 Purdy. :shrug:

Everyone was in 2023 if you believe QBR

I remember the MVP talks last year; it’s a real mystery what happened to him in 2024

tk13 12-29-2024 06:35 PM

I think a lot will ride on how this SNF game goes. Falcons play a huge role in all of this because if they lose the Rams are in, but it also lets Tampa back into play.

Pretty good odds next week comes down to the NFC North title, NFC South title and whether the Broncos can beat the Chiefs. Not the most exciting final week ever.

Megatron96 12-29-2024 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882898)
Purdy led the league in QBR last year, I wonder what happened this season



Seems kind of obvious. CMC only played 4 games.

jdubya 12-29-2024 06:38 PM

https://x.com/NFLonFOXPod/status/187...950148157?s=19

Azide22 12-29-2024 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17882904)
I think a lot will ride on how this SNF game goes. Falcons play a huge role in all of this because if they lose the Rams are in, but it also lets Tampa back into play.

Pretty good odds next week comes down to the NFC North title, NFC South title and whether the Broncos can beat the Chiefs. Not the most exciting final week ever.

Steelers have small chance to win division too.

Pepe Silvia 12-29-2024 06:42 PM

The Vikings are going to choke in the playoffs, it's a guarantee.

Bearcat 12-29-2024 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882903)
Everyone was in 2023 if you believe QBR

I remember the MVP talks last year; it’s a real mystery what happened to him in 2024

Not sure I've ever seen someone flip their own script from bringing up QBR 10 times as the end-all argument for someone being the better QB, being so wrong about it, and then now QBR is suddenly completely misleading because Purdy.

That's good shit. LMAO

MahomesMagic 12-29-2024 06:46 PM

Green Bay played the worst game I have seen from them recently.


Blown coverages, missed tackles, and drops all day and they lose by 2.

rfaulk34 12-29-2024 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882853)
QBR loves Burrow, you should be defending Love

If i'm taking a QB for the next 10 years, it's Love easily. For the next 5...same thing.

If i'm taking a QB for this year, it's Darnold and i honestly wouldn't need to think about it.

Hark Clunt 12-29-2024 06:47 PM

the lions should rest starters tomorrow.

tk13 12-29-2024 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17882929)
Green Bay played the worst game I have seen from them recently.


Blown coverages, missed tackles, and drops all day and the lose by 2.

They've got plenty of talent. Their problem now is if Washington wins out they're the 7 seed. That's playing at Philly, then at either Detroit/Minnesota.. and then if they survive probably the other half of Detroit/Minnesota. All on the road. They need to be rooting hard for Atlanta tonight.

MahomesMagic 12-29-2024 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17882931)
If i'm taking a QB for the next 10 years, it's Love easily. For the next 5...same thing.

If i'm taking a QB for this year, it's Darnold and i honestly wouldn't need to think about it.

Darnold needs credit as he got over playing for the shitty ass Jets.


That's hard to come back from.


;)


Until he took off this year he was the most confusing "bust" of recent QB's. His college tape was great.

rfaulk34 12-29-2024 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882856)
I was hoping it was a blind joke.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2...jt9/giphy.webp

MahomesMagic 12-29-2024 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17882936)
They've got plenty of talent. Their problem now is if Washington wins out they're the 7 seed. That's playing at Philly, then at either Detroit/Minnesota.. and then if they survive probably the other half of Detroit/Minnesota. All on the road. They need to be rooting hard for Atlanta tonight.

Yeah, they sucked bad in this game though so they get what they deserve.


The absolutely can beat anyone in the NFC, including Philly.


They just can't fall far behind because their script does not work doing that.

steve_minor 12-29-2024 06:51 PM

Chiefs fan in MN - just watched the Vikings vs Packers with my neighbors. That game helps put in perspective some of our close games. KC truly knows how to WIN close games. The Vikings made multiple moves to make that game as close as it was with way more time on the clock than it should have been.

Easier to observe when my emotions are calm and in check - I hope MN wins next week and meets us in Super Bowl - Could be our first one that we get to enjoy the 4th quarter stress free!!!

DRM08 12-29-2024 06:51 PM

Speaking of QBR, Aaron Rodgers was graded 1.2 out of 100 today. That's incredible, haha

Sassy Squatch 12-29-2024 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882903)
Everyone was in 2023 if you believe QBR

I remember the MVP talks last year; it’s a real mystery what happened to him in 2024

LMAO Bold strategy?

Bearcat 12-29-2024 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17882938)

KCC reaching for that QBR stat until someone tells him it's better for his argument if he downplays QBR:


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KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882917)
Not sure I've ever seen someone flip their own script from bringing up QBR 10 times as the end-all argument for someone being the better QB, being so wrong about it, and then now QBR is suddenly completely misleading because Purdy.

That's good shit. LMAO

Seems you missed the point somewhere along the way

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17882907)
Seems kind of obvious. CMC only played 4 games.

Interesting

I wonder what would happen to Darnold’s numbers if Jefferson got hurt

FloridaMan88 12-29-2024 06:54 PM

What will be the two Saturday games and the SNF game during Week 18?

Seems likely that Minnesota/Detroit will be the SNF game.

Pepe Silvia 12-29-2024 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17882938)


Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17882946)
KCC reaching for that QBR stat until someone tells him it's better for his argument if he downplays QBR:


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I'm all out of Dundees for the night so thumbs up.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17882931)
If i'm taking a QB for the next 10 years, it's Love easily. For the next 5...same thing.

If i'm taking a QB for this year, it's Darnold and i honestly wouldn't need to think about it.

If the Vikings could trade Darnold for Love to start the playoffs this year, they’d do it immediately

Megatron96 12-29-2024 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882951)
Interesting

I wonder what would happen to Darnold’s numbers if Jefferson got hurt



he'd just distribute the ball to Addison/Hockenson/Jones. Purdy's issue is that he doesn't have any arm strength, so he can't threaten the secondary with deep passes. Darnold can.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17882961)
he'd just distribute the ball to Addison/Hockenson/Jones. Purdy's issue is that he doesn't have any arm strength, so he can't threaten the secondary with deep passes. Darnold can.

What if Addison gets hurt like Aiyuk did too?

St. Patty's Fire 12-29-2024 07:10 PM

rams clinch if the skins win

Easy 6 12-29-2024 07:13 PM

NGL tonights matchup feels interesting, its not very often these two teams meet... and even less frequent when they both meet with up and coming young hotshot QBs

Sassy Squatch 12-29-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 17882972)
NGL tonights matchup feels interesting, its not very often these two teams meet... and even less frequent when they both meet with up and coming young hotshot QBs

Oh right, Penix is getting the start.

Megatron96 12-29-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882963)
What if Addison gets hurt like Aiyuk did too?



Then they pivot to the next WR, Sherfield or whoever. The thing you keep missing is that Purdy can't throw down the field anywhere close to what Darnold can, so while Purdy's efficiency tanks when he loses CMC (and to a much lesser extent, Aiyuk), Darnold has the arm to just keep firing.

wazu 12-29-2024 07:19 PM

Great anthem.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17882986)
Then they pivot to the next WR, Sherfield or whoever. The thing you keep missing is that Purdy can't throw down the field anywhere close to what Darnold can, so while Purdy's efficiency tanks when he loses CMC (and to a much lesser extent, Aiyuk), Darnold has the arm to just keep firing.

He can fire all he wants but all those throws will end up being incompletions or picks in that scenario just like Purdy

Both were elevated by the huge weapons around them

dirk digler 12-29-2024 07:24 PM

I'm no Purdy fan but Darnold is on his 4th team for a reason. He backed up Purdy last year and they never once considered putting him ahead of Purdy. Heck the only reason he is in Minnestoa is because their 1st round pick got hurt and they needed a warm body to throw to the best WR in the game.

Chieftain 12-29-2024 07:24 PM

Fun trivia: Matthew McConaughey happens to be a Washington Redskins fan. For a born and bred texan, this was rather surprising. Just goes to show you how special and unique the NFL is when it comes to team fandom.

KC_Connection 12-29-2024 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17883003)
I'm no Purdy fan but Darnold is on his 4th team for a reason. He backed up Purdy last year and they never once considered putting him ahead of Purdy. Heck the only reason he is in Minnestoa is because their 1st round pick got hurt and they needed a warm body to throw to the best WR in the game.

Darnold is probably a poor man's Purdy, I agree.

Pepe Silvia 12-29-2024 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17883004)
Fun trivia: Matthew McConaughey happens to be a Washington Redskins fan. For a born and bred texan, this was rather surprising. Just goes to show you how special and unique the NFL is when it comes to team fandom.

He probably found a way to stay positive with them all these years as well.

Marcellus 12-29-2024 07:27 PM

That was a bad pass sir.

Monticore 12-29-2024 07:27 PM

Because I sat Nabers I need a monster game from Daniel’s to win my fantasy title , Mahomes on the bench hurts too would have won.

Easy 6 12-29-2024 07:27 PM

Who the hell was Penis looking at lol

Megatron96 12-29-2024 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17882994)
He can fire all he wants but all those throws will end up being incompletions or picks in that scenario just like Purdy

Both were elevated by the huge weapons around them



No, because Darnold is significantly more accurate downfield than Purdy. That's what you're missing.

Purdy's efficiency was completely supported by the fact that CMC is Marshall Fualk. A RB that can run the entire route tree, run option routes, hots, etc. And since he mostly lines up in the backfield or the slot, he's not coverable by any LB/S. So he's open immediately every single time, within 10 yds of the LoS.

Without CMC, Purdy had to try and force passes beyond the sticks, and every defense sat on the sticks this season when they figured out Purdy couldn't throw deeper with any consistency. Purdy is just a more durable version of Tua.


Darnold can throw accurately and with velocity much farther than Prudy, so he'd still be effective without JJ, just not quite as efficiently. But the plays would still be there, and Darnold could still make the throws.

mr. tegu 12-29-2024 07:28 PM

Let’s see how he does without two defensive TDs. Not good so far.

Marcellus 12-29-2024 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17883010)
Darnold is probably a poor man's Purdy, I agree.

Darnold was a 1st round pick. Purdy was Mr Irrelevant.

Sassy Squatch 12-29-2024 07:28 PM

Holy shit that was bad.

Megatron96 12-29-2024 07:28 PM

Ouch. Well, rookies will do rookie things.


LGWAS

FloridaMan88 12-29-2024 07:29 PM

#78 on Washington false start, not called.

Marcellus 12-29-2024 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17883022)
Ouch. Well, rookies will do rookie things.


LGWAS

Yea I threw some $ on Washington.

dirk digler 12-29-2024 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17883010)
Darnold is probably a poor man's Purdy, I agree.

More like Cousins IMHO

Marcellus 12-29-2024 07:32 PM

Nice play rook.

Megatron96 12-29-2024 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17883025)
Yea I threw some $ on Washington.



I need WAS to beat ATL, so Baker can go to the playoffs.

Marcellus 12-29-2024 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17883031)
I need WAS to beat ATL, so Baker can go to the playoffs.

SHOULD happen. Atlanta has moved on to the future.

Tampa could **** up some teams dreams in the playoffs.

Megatron96 12-29-2024 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17883027)
More like Cousins IMHO



Cousins is smarter/higher football IQ than either Darnold/Purdy, but that's not surprising. Darnold has a better arm than the other two, Cousins has a better arm than Purdy, but my niece does too, so that's not saying that much.


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