Yeah seems like very little when you consider that move would have put Zay Flowers on our team instead of the team trying to choke us out in the playoffs while we cant mover he ball.

I can't wait to hear the story of the trade coming together or who they thought was gonna take Worthy and why.

I think Worthy is what Toney should be.

Seen both Cowboys and 49ers.

Well, he a step ahead on the neck tattoo so that's a good sign.

Exactly, they missed out on Zay Flowers last year. This year Veach wasn't missing again on that player.

And watching the draft podcast over at Arrowhead Addict, their guys also weren't pleased with the pick, including Verderame. It was the instinctive natural reaction at the time. Biggest criticism was his thin frame. Now, he may add 10 pounds of muscle over the summer. It is possible.
I still believe McConkey was a safer pick. But Worthy has bigger upside, no doubt. Can stretch the field more. He did play with a broken hand in 2022 which caused his numbers to dip. Has been productive in all his years in college and has great acceleration after the catch, similar to Rice, with a faster takeoff speed. Played in a big name school. Seems book smart. There's a lot to like when sitting back and reviewing the pick. But as they always say, best ability is availability. The NFL is brutal, it's physical. Especially for a receiver.

this was the route that got me excited more than the 40 time.

Cowboys were my first thought when we made the move, but after seeing the 49ers go Pearsall, it's obvious they were in on Worthy too.

Funny how differently people see the world...

I honestly think Worthy is a floor pick rather than a ceiling one. I don't see a ton of room for added growth with him. His route running is already polished. His speed is what it is. His size isn't going to change appreciably. I don't see much ceiling left in him at all - this is the guy he's going to be and what will ultimately impact his productivity is scheme and opportunity.

That will come, for better or worse, fairly early on in his career.

Someone like McConkey has more upside to me because I think there's a translation question that hasn't been answered. I don't think he's been used in as broad a manner as some of his skills suggest he could be used. I think he COULD (not will, but could) be a Z receiver type based on traits and a frame that I think can carry a little more good weight than it has.

So I actually see Ladd as being a higher upside pick and Worthy as being a safer one. Because I think Worthy's floor is as a better version of Hardman. Maybe a Marquis Goodwin sort? And he has had a heck of a career even if he was never a true impact player.

I think Worthy slots in as being between Goodwin and DeSean Jackson. That's not a HUGE outcome curve. Whereas i think McConkey could be anywhere between Skyy Moore and CeeDee Lamb.

Working out of town so didn't get a chance to chime in much. ****ing stoked for this kid. Going to be fun watching him and Hollywood on the field at the same time.

Some of those moves are ****ing NASTY

At the end of the first though....isn't that probably a smarter pick?

Those guys with a wide dispersion of outcomes usually are 2nd rounders.

Yeah, a good whip route is a thing of beauty. Keeping those in your pocket with 'Reek on 3rd and gotta have it was just easy money.

Now with Worthy what may take a little time is learning the option routes. Because most of the time a whip route is a choice route. You have that in your pocket w/ a slant or drag or post/corner a simple dagger; something depending on what the defense shows.

That's what made Hill so dangerous. If you sold out for the whip, he was gonna kill you with something else. And if you dared him to beat you on the whip route, he would.

So how long will it take to install the full set of option/choice routes that will really let Worthy see what he has to work with and take full advantage of those whip/corndog sort of concepts?

Yes.

I didn't like McConkey in the first much. Too much downside there and ultimately I don't have THAT much confidence in the upside. I mean he's a pretty clear 9.0(D) sort of player - the odds of him hitting that ceiling are pretty remote.

Whereas Worthy may only be a 8.0(B). Yeah, I'll take the latter over the former.

This was posted on the Bills forum. LMAO

Same for me but I'm JAG on a message board. Even if we did get the wrong X who can argue with the results. We do know our QB can make Chicken salad out of ya you know. ;)

I'll see if I can find the seam route he ran that's probably my favorite one. Not a thing he did was something you'd notice if you weren't looking at him and it ALL mattered.

EDIT: Okay, here are a couple of them

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This one's neat as hell because it's him using his speed to buy space before he actually uses his speed. He slows down his route into that soft spot in the middle, the safety sees it and then he hits the afterburners once the safety sinks a little and just blows past him. And the ball tracking is just {chef's kiss}. I'm sure a lot of y'all played receiver as a kid. I was actually pretty damn good at catching the ball over my shoulder - I could do some of that stuff. And that's why I know it's really damn hard because that requires some insane body control to pull off. If you can't do it, you don't realize how much goes into making it actually work. I cannot say enough about how hard it is picking up a ball directly over your head like that and adjusting to it while it's in the air without tripping over your own damn feet. It's just awesome stuff there.

And here's the other route I was thinking of; not actually a seam - deep out.

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Very very subtle footwork to prevent him from losing speed but also every one of those moves is getting a reaction from the DB. He has the kid in a blender without it being terribly obvious. Then he plants that foot and cuts as soon as he sees the DB open his hips just the smallest amount when he reacted one step of hard acceleration off a bit of a hesitation move.

That's the 'Receiver shit' i talked about Hill having when we 'converted' him to a receiver from a RB. Nah - we didn't. He was a receiver already. Guys that do that stuff are receivers even when they aren't. Because it's innate. It's WAY too fast and way too subtle to think your way through it. And there are too many variables to plan it in advance. Your body is just doing it.

Moore is the perfect example of a guy who has NONE of that ability. He'll have some pre-route plan and if that doesn't work for him, he's done. He has no feel for running the route. He can't adapt, he can't improvise. He's gonna try the same foot fire and exaggerated (read: Slow) nonsense that pro level defenders don't bite on and when that doesn't work he's just out of sequence with the patterns and out of the play altogether.

Worthy does receiver shit. He has a really nice feel for the position.

Seems like a sharp guy. Watched him on the Rich Eisen show. Said his goal in meeting with teams was to show he had the smarts to go with that speed. Said, when teams had him go to the board and break down a play on film of himself, he also broke down other positions as well on their look on the play etc.

.... Hell yeah!

Was the first "my guy" of this draft season for me.

I think he's our Desean Jackson moving forward. I understand that might be his ceiling, but I think he landed in the perfect spot to reach said ceiling.

Someone should have told them they can have Skyy when he gets cut.

Yeah, that's.... pretty much indefensible.

I know you can't play the game being afraid of injuries, but I can't help but cringe when I read about Veach extolling Worthy's ability in the return game. 165 lb guy returning kicks or punts against 240 pound linebackers running full speed? That's a lot of punishment to absorb.

You gotta take into consideration the new kickoff rules. Guys like Worthy and KT will have real opportunity to make a difference there.

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No seriously - as good as you think this play is, it's better.

QB put that ball probably 8 yards from where it should've been. It was such a bad throw that 9 times out of 10 you don't realize it was ever catchable to begin with. MVS just coasts into the corner there and you say "Damn, these guys just can't get on the same page..."

I mean that ball should've been thrown to the bottom left corner of the Alabama A. Maybe further to the left than that even. The QB missed by a TON and Worthy just keeps his feet, finds the ball and angles towards it without losing much speed at all.

It's just special shit. Not many guys can do that at all.

Seth had those plays in his email; he’s pretty high on XW

And THAT is the difference between last season and being a top 5 offense again. Like, seriously, just having a guy who can track the ****ing ball and catch the damned thing.

Yeah - that's where I got them from. He's usually my go to guy to find clips of stuff. He does a really nice job of cutting them up. I knew if I went to his pre-draft review I'd be able to find that 'seam' that wasn't a seam. And then as I was looking for it I found the other play where he tracked the ball so well.

He's the sort of reason I don't try to blog stuff like this - I can't do what he does with the video work. He's able to provide the visuals that make all my yammering a hell of a lot more effective.

Nice analysis and you have to love that this TD was not against East Tennessee State or whoever like a lot of draft clips, but a primetime game on the road against Alabama.

Whoever said X just has combine speed is nuts, the kid is a gamer.

I mean take every single thing I said about Hollywood and use it here.

I said Hollywood was really killed by his QB play and that if you had him doing the stuff MVS was doing (where MVS simply wasn't locating/tracking some of these balls) you could normalize his productivity and get a top 25ish WR for your troubles.

Exact same analysis. Which to be fair is one of the worries I had about Worthy as a pick - he does seem a bit redundant.

But he can absolutely provide a massive shot in the arm to this team's downfield passing game and it does not take much at all to then open up the middle even more.

Imagine your third or fourth corner covering this guy LMAO LMAO LMAO

Pacheco might average like 5.3 YPC

#Make11PersonnelGreatAgain

MEGA

Training camp is gonna be PACKED man.

You know Mahomes gonna be letting it fly.

Veach basically got back a faster Tyreek Hill and saved a shit ton of money. Crazy

RIP your multiple tight end sets.

ROFLROFLROFL

The 3-play sequence at 0:22 is ridiculous.

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a touchdown

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...and the Bills traded with us instead of SanFran. How does that happen?

Yes I get our offered package was better but how do you not leverage something out of the Niners if they really were interested. Plus SF snipes a WR from a conference rival as well. NFL teams are REALLY dumb

Mine?

That ain't me, hoss. Back when I wanted us to take a look at Hockensen I liked the idea. But beyond that I've been calling for a return to the 11 personnel groups for a couple years now.

Once teams started using 2-high stuff on us and folks wanted to use those 12 groupings to attack it, I was of the exact opposite view. I wanted us to put both those safeties under massive stress using 11 groups as often as possible.

This was EXACTLY what I wanted us to do in the weeks leading up to us trading Hill. Once we moved him, I put those plans in my pocket for a bit. But I've liked the idea of attacking this chickenshit Cover 2 shell nonsense with speed all over the field for awhile now.

Arrowhead Addict ROFL WHO CARES!!!

Okay this is just straight-up porn.

Is this going to be the best offense in the Mahomes era?

Someone got clips of the game where we played Buffalo in 2020 or so?

Mcdermott's safeties were almost sitting in the end zone and then we handed off to MEH 100 times.

See, this guy gets it

Just can't say enough about how much I love the way this offense threatens at all three levels.

And because of the threat HB and Worthy present, I'll go ahead and be one of many that foreshadows a Kelce 'Fountain of Youth' narrative come this fall, even though last year's struggles had less to do with age and more to do with his supporting cast.

Hill is also maybe the quickest/twitchiest player in the NFL, and he has more stamina than anyone else. So by the end of the game they're dragging and he's lapping them. He's such a unicorn.

Those highlights are way better than even you think they are because Quinn Ewers is complete asshole.

I think Kelce was more banged up than we realized.

He got hurt right before Week 1 then essentially had to rehab during the season. That’s tough at any age. Plus a setback against the Vikings didn’t help.

Then, he turned in one of the best postseasons by a tight end ever, which makes me think it was easier to push through when the games really mattered and the end of the season was right there.

Still lol'n that Buffalo agreed to let us have the fastest timed 40 in combine history to get a sack of dicks in return.

****ing amazing. Veach literally is a wizard.

Yeah.

I also thought less and less of Penix the more I looked into this draft. That team was loaded with NFL talent.

Peopled just need to not compare anyone to Hill, he's a true unicorn in just his what he naturally brings and in what he can do.

There will never be another one like him, he's a HOFer.

Hollywood Brown was a great signing. Really made almost any WR we added at this point workable.

I think Buffalo just admitted they don't think they are a contender right now so they took the deal they thought they could utilize the best, they basically are telling everyone, we're gonna be down for a few years so we don't care.

Beane and McDermott should be fired on the spot if that's their mindset.

I think they still plan to contend, but that defense needs a lot of work and their brass knows it more than their fans or any other casuals.

Everyone knows it, when they signed that Von Miller deal they were all in 2 years ago, this past year was their last hurrah with a few pieces gone.

Now that incarnation of the team is completely over, they need picks and to try to be ready to compete again in a few. They have a lot of key components to replace because A, cap space is burned and B they blew to many picks.

It was the same song and dance about KC 2 years ago and they won the SB. If you have a franchise QB (and they do even though he's no Patrick), you're a contender every year.

They just gave their biggest opponent a loaded weapon for nothing more than a buy 2 get one free mcdouble coupon. Completely indefensible.

The Chiefs didn't blow a bunch of picks or sign an aging veteran to a huge deal to win now.

You're right. They didn't sign a Hitchens and do a massively bad trade for Frank Clark.

Those moves were made earlier in the process.

Buffalo basically got ate up when they signed Von Miller and mixed it with missing on so many high picks...

They tried to draft DE over and over and it flamed out so hard it resulted in overpaying Miller.

Doesn't matter when it was done. You're just ****ing that chicken for no reason at this point.

And he's got better hands than Hill I'd wager.

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JJ!!!


Was talking about how I both loved/hated/loved him just last week, lol.

He was….. Worthy of our 1st round pic.

/David Caruso gif

How many times over the last two seasons did we see Hardman or MVS give up on a ball like that and just slow down or stop running. If this kid can track the ball and give maximum effort he is a huge upgrade.

I agree but 3rd or 4th and 1 exists.

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2 on 1 even... Was not glad with the pick but I am no NFL person either.

He appears to be great after the catch and running in traffic. Those highlights show him running through a lot of leg and ankle tackles.

Agree 100%. Hitting on Rashee Rice last year, signing Hollywood, and capping it off by drafting the fastest player in the history of the league is going to extend Kelces career, substantially. Not only far less demand on him physically, but this offense, with all these weapons, are going to start breaking records again. Kelce not about to hang it up in the middle of a run like that unless his body falls off a cliff.

The Chiefs speed offense was getting hit with all the Fangio disciples running quarters constantly, Chiefs change to a ball control passing attack that eats up quarters...

Fangio disciples across the league get fired and cover 1 because popular again...Chiefs go back to just being faster than everyone else.

I'd also argue it can be a play-calling issue at times as well. It doesn't matter how good your interior offensive linemen are when you're running the annexation of Puerto Rico on 3rd and inches.

Man, you watch those highlights...

and I get it, they're 'highlights'...

but this kid threatens every blade of grass, just him. You want to press him and man up? Better not miss, or it's 7. WR screen? threat to take it to the house. Post? 9? Out? Crosser? Whip? You can see ALL of that in these videos.

This is no 'raw, but potential' Hardman pick. This is no speedy gadget player. This kid has already demonstrated excellent route running to go with the blinding speed, and is a GREAT ball tracker (which is perhaps the #1 problem we've had since Hill left.)

As a person who follows the Big 12 closely and is a degenerate gambler, I absolutely HATED to bet against Texas. The amount of stress and pressure Worthy puts on a defense is ridiculous. You could feel it through the tv screen. You held your breath every single time they threw his direction.

And with Hollywood, and with Rice, and with Kelce?

Oh, and you want to sit back in dime? No problem. Here comes Pacheco.

I think this also plays in that Hollywood is probably gonna be here for 1 year, if he has the kind of year he can have in this offense, he'll get paid.

The thing I noticed besides the obvious speed that he will be adding is ball tracking skills. MVS, Watson, Hardman could get open deep, but they can't track like this kid....heck MVS had to fall down on his back to catch the ball.

Go back and look at that 3rd down throw to MVS that sealed the Ravens game. I am glad he fell down to make the catch because he was most comfortable securing it in that fashion, but a receiver like this kid is taking that to the house.

Agreed, if Hollywood was multiyear, I think they stay put or trade back slightly from 32 and take the BYU tackle and some combination of Corley/Walker/Franklin in subsequent picks.