No the current lease exists til 2031

Sucks when a state is so full of poor people that they can't vote this through and keep their sports teams.

That's the way it's been sold, but look at the poll in this thread, FFS. And I'm talkin about public funding.

Gimmedats at work. NIMBP. You and him pay my bar tab.

If a stadium can be privately funded, that location deserves a franchise, and it would be history making.

It seems unlikely that Kansas City would ever lose the Chiefs. I can see Kansas City losing the Royals because MLB is not being run the same way as the NFL. In MLB, there will always be the haves and the have nots. It isn't that way in the NFL. Each team is a Franchise Quarterback away from winning.

What, do you think if Mahomes went to Oklahoma City that Chiefs fans wouldn't follow? Chiefs would likely not get another NFL team for a long long time, if ever. That's not going to happen, but to imply that KC could easily replace the Royals or Chiefs if they left is laughable.

Leases are broken all the time. When a big revenue stream dries up it's fair game.

Not going to lie, I'm really disappointed in the idea of abandoning Arrowhead.

I really think it had a shot to become a Lambeau esque iconic venue that fans could enjoy for generations. It's such a cool place.

The idea of replacing it with another bland corporate monstrosity out by the racetrack that Clark (or whatever Hunt owns the team at that point) will declare outdated 25 years after it's build is just sad to think about.

Tells me all I need to know is that you don't know this city and have no idea what you're talking about. All you have is throwing a 5-year-old toddler tantrum.
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Almost all those cities have viable public transportation with satellite parking areas outside of the city proper where land isn't sold by the square foot.

The choo choo we have downtown is the equivalent of the Worlds of Fun RR that goes around in circles around the amusement park.

There's no money in that.

It literally amounts to less than $50/yr per person. Can't believe it failed. Gonna lose all kinds of stuff Jackson county. You ignoramuses!

Ok, but it's not happening. Plenty of others will vote to pay for the Chiefs.

The titty bar, empty KC Star building and church is better than a stadium?

Exactly.

The revenue isn't drying up the lease remains in place for another 7 years

At the end of the day, just think of all the parking spaces we'll have once the Royals and Chiefs move!

Doesn't need to be broken.

Chiefs rent is $1.1MM / year. Just write the check and leave it empty.

The chiefs were stupid to hitch up to this poor royals plan and even more stupid to submit a plan for the rich with nothing for the working class already pissed at their tax assessment fiasco.

OK. Then why are we voting now on the tax extension? Does the current tax end in 7 years?

Me too. I'm hoping the Chiefs sandbagged this so they can eventually get all of the counties money and have a real plan for that vote with the Royals moving to another, hopefully, KC area in another country. Building codes won't let a stadium be built like Arrowhead with its steepness. The upper level are some of the best viewing seats in the NFL for a stadium and is a noise trapper for sound.

Correct and then has this passed the tax would have been in place for an additional 40 years

We should all pool our money together and buy a huge plot of land in Johnson County and offer it to the teams. But where?

It will take a minimum of 5 years for the Chiefs to build a new stadium... and you would have at least a year and a half of planning and a vote to approve at other locations.

You might as well quit bitching about it.

It's obvious the people who actually pay the tab don't give two shits about your desire to walk around during your 2 visits a year.

They already bought up the church. Honestly, the way the Royals went about it was all wrong. They just let all kinds of disinformation get thrown around and did an absolute shit job of fighting that.

Clark wasn't even at the Yes Vote watch party if that means anything

I agree...too many cities have growth explosions that just blow us out of the water. My brother in law just got back from Frisco, Texas and they just spent $260,000,000 on a football complex for high school teams! FAFO...

What's in the crossroads you want to keep intact?

We all know the stadium would displace and alter the entire district. Not just the site it sits on. You can act like it’s a positive but plenty of people enjoy what the crossroads is without the royals trying to play savior.

You might prefer to see 7 more midrise “luxury “ apartments where businesses currently sit but obviously the voters didn’t

Supporting a business that was operating in bad faith is a positive?

Red Dawg simping so hard is pretty telling.

Anyone that shops in Jackson county pays the tab, dipshit. Its not only Jackson county residents that pay for this.

Nothing really. The anti billionaire clan was going to find something to complain about no matter where the proposal wound up. Nothing was going to satisfy a large portion of the "no" base.

If you aren't anti-billionaire while not being a billionaire, that's telling.

The polling on this issue told the story about what was going to happen today.

Anybody that tried ta listen ta sports talk today got a vote yes infomercial.

All day.

Beggin for votes.

Of course, those peoples jobs are tied to pro sports.

Sure, they provided a plan, they had the pulse that it was probably going to fail. They will now use Kansas as leverage and move there, or get all of the county money if the Royals move. It's not bad faith as they would have been bound by the voters decision if they said yes, but they didn't. This in the long run will be a win for the Chiefs, and maybe Arrowhead and a roof system.

You think next year all the people who hate anything that involves other people with money will stop hating others with money? Because the majority of people online saying “no” seem quite emotional about not wanting to “fund billionaires play things.”

Carrington literally said that if he wouldn't have voted early, then he probably would have voted no. He trash talked the Royals his entire show and definitely wasn't a vote yes infomercial.

Being anti-billionaire is just reeruned talk from losers.

Right..that's totally what it is.

He’s the best thing that station has going. Glad to hear he didn’t go down shilling and admitted it was a bad plan

If the Royals would have hammered on the good things, rather than say "If you don't do this we will leave", then they probably would have done a lot better on the ballot.

so obtuse... Do you think the Hunts and Chiefs haven't been good for KC. Do you think Billionaires don't have huge payrolls and provide benefits?

All of the beer/bourbon stops.

Tell me how trickle down economics works, I'll wait.

He'd seen/ been told about the polls (possibly responses to his show over electronic media), stuck his finger inta the wind, and shifted gears.

What will be altered in the district that you want to keep?

Glad you came around...

I haven't been following this for very long but the Chiefs aren't leaving KC, they'll build a big shiny stadium with a roof in Kansas and have Super Bowls there. And let's all hope we're alive long enough to enjoy it.

People at that time will have forgotten that some Raytown diehards swore they'd never attend and say I miss old Arrowhead and children will say what's that, just like I did about Municipal Stadium, wherever the hell that was.

The Royals that's a different story but maybe they should go back and figure out a better plan.

Nothing now because the proposal got slaughtered at the ballot box

You’ve been a Chiefs fan for 5 years. How do you possibly claim to have such attachment to Arrowhead?

I keep seeing you post in different threads about things you’re utterly clueless about. Is there no end?

Ok sure. What would have been altered that now you're glad you get to keep.

Doubtful

It's called capitalism... The poorest in America would be the richest in about 75% of the world...

But hey, be jealous of other success as you bitch about people that have created wealth for themselves while providing jobs, services and innovations to millions...

it's been a while since i've seen some good ol fashioned billionaire boot lickin lmao

Created wealth for themselves, I'll stop you right there.

I've been a STH and a fan for a long long time, and I have the same sentiment.

He can tell us what they had for lunch his head is so far in that ass.

LMAO... The big bad billionaire is the reason for all things bad.

There may be like one solitary altruistic self-made billionaire in the world








and she gets plowed on the reg by a Chiefs player.

Buddy, I’ve got no problem with your sentiment. I want Arrowhead to remain where it is and am on the same page.

But this guy purporting to be some voice of the people when I’m not sure he’s ever been to Arrowhead more than 3 times is ridiculous. Let the adults like you talk here with authority rather than the guy who stumbled into being a Chiefs fan and has miserable takes 50% of the time. His proselytizing about this and that is absurd.

Wait...how did David Glass make his fortune?

Not good optics when we're all going through inflation and people's property taxes went up in some cases 200%. My ****ing rent went up $300 a month. They are going to ask for a billion dollars with a half baked plan that doesn't even explain who pays for the K to be torn down or the 5 acres in their rendering that weren't covered in this proposal.

Like I've said come back to the table agree to things before voters have already started voting and for the Chiefs FFS come up something better than some standing bar tables behind the end zone

Gotcha. I thought you were advocating for new. I love Arrowhead so much from going for the first time in the late 70's when we sucked through today. Lots of great memories. Would love to see it improved with some possible roof options, temporary or perm. If the Royals leave, this may be the plan?

Why would they waste Andy Reid, Kelce and Mahomes time to shill for it if they wanted it to fail? They of course wanted it to pass. They were less motivated than the Royals but they absolutely wanted it to pass.

Does anyone even give a shit about the royals anymore anyway? I can't remember the last time I saw a game on TV or even saw a listing for a game on TV

3/8 of cents sales tax could be used on stadiums and locking these teams in for another 40 years, instead if these teams leave your local politicians will encourage the tax to continue and try to pass it for some other project that won't bring in shit for revenue, but will be a feel good money pit.

Appearances... The plan was shit and now they have the PR clout to look at Kansas and create more leverage if they want to continue with the county without the Royals if they move.

Whatever replaces Arrowhead will be sterile, small and full of luxury boxes.

I'm fortunate enough to have watched games in the pre-Herm Edwards Arrowhead and got to witness the 2019 postseason run in person. The latter type of atmosphere isn't ever coming back, and Mahomes will eventually depart and the franchise will probably be back to a level of irrelevance.

Someone will benefit from a franchise being hosted in a postmodern art-inspired domed stadium somewhere in the Kansas City metro but it won't be me, so it's a lot healthier just to accept fate and move on.

I would love to see the Royals get a deal in another county in KC and the Chiefs get the entire 3/8 from the county and stay at Arrowhead. Will be interesting to see how it progresses.

I'm sorry you blame billionaires for your shitty life selling weed brownies while stealing the cable from your parents and reading Communist Reddit.

agree...sadly.

Oh my god a hanging ceiling panel fell from most likely water damage from a broken waterline at some time. OMG bulldoze it cancer of concrete!

I don't think that happens though I am almost confident the state will throw in money and the city will side step the county and get the Royals in the Crossroads. They won't see the ballot again.

Kansas has thrown crazy money at the Chiefs but they finally get to break up with the Royals and likely will get back on the ballot. They can't again for another year. Missouri isn't going to lose 2 NFL teams

You may not know the answer until it's too late. MLB has to get its shit together and institute a meaningful cap, but the 15 & 16 seasons alone were enough to answer that question for tens of thousands

Yeah the 2016 royals will always hold a special place in our hearts

I was at Arrowhead 5 times last season alone lol.

I take it you aren't a regular in the Gracie Hunt thread then. Clay's been making them boots shine like mirrors.

I can't believe OP isn't jumping on the Royals. They should have offered up Brookridge Country Club, which will probably still go broke

Weird. You seemed entirely miserable in GDTs each time.

Which games exactly were you at? We could’ve hung out?!