We haven't really gotten into the meat of the stuff yet, but if it works out that you have the top 3 then a gaggle of guys who are all of similar grade......I'd start looking at other spots that might be available there and kick the WR to the 2nd round.

I really like Legette myself and if he were to be there in the 2nd.....I'd do that in a heartbeat.

I'm on the Legette train also- his change of direction and fluidity for being 6'3, 220 lbs is incredible. High points the ball well, little bit of work to refine while route running but it isn't that bad. If you compare him to Treylon Burks for example, I think Legette is a much better lateral athlete and I think his tape shows he has more tools in the bag as a receiver. Legette has a little bit of ying, to Rashee Rice's yang, and what I mean by that is Rice's ability to sit in zone coverage and find openings coming out of college was something that was going to be effective day 1. Legette absolutely torches man to man coverage, I think he compliments Rice and Kelce's skillset well. Only knock I have on Legette is his short area game- his release could be better and there isn't much tape showing him winning within the first 0-5 yards against a pressure look.

Legette has accepted an invite to the Reese's Senior Bowl. Everyone is going to get a very good look at him, he could significantly improve his draft position if he has a Tank Dell type of week.

He's more DK Metcalf but seems to corner better to me. The lack of production needs answered, but to me....man it's an upside pick.

Ideally....I'd rather have a guy like Odunze but this guy seems like a poor mans Odunze.

This is probably my preference order currently in the 1st.

Troy Franklin
Xavier Legette
Brian Thomas
Keon Coleman
Adonai Mitchell

If we don't go 1st RD WR, I'm really high on Brenden Rice at the bottom of the 2nd.

I think what you guys are seeing in Legette, with regards to his athleticism, seems correct. He looks like a more fluid athlete than DK or Burks. He has really good stop/start capability, but hasn't used that to form a complete route tree. Instead, it shows in comeback routes and hooks. If he can translate that foot quickness and lateral agility to additional routes, while learning to setup defenders, then he's on his way to superstardom. I don't see him face press much due to his size and speed combo, allowing him to get off the line quickly and cleanly. His rookie season could see him running mostly go routes, as well as simple crossers to take advantage of his RAC ability, while he develops his route tree. Putting him in the slot would also create some uncomfortable mismatches for defenses.

Tack on a jitterbug with really good technical work like Jacob Cowing, who can uncover in an instant, work in a phone booth, and effortlessly finds open spots in zones, and you have a pretty exciting group moving forward. Cowing would excel in this offense, IMO, but may shoot up boards after the combine.

I don't get too hungup on the "doesn't have a full route tree". Of course he doesn't, I don't expect guys taken where we pick to. If he did, with his athletic profile he's going with Harrison JR in the top 5.

I'm not too hung up on it either. I think he could provide a lot of value year one doing two simple things: running go routes and working underneath and trying to turn 5-yard throws into 50-yard touchdowns. Let him use the first two-thirds of the season learning to be a professional WR and slowly expand on what you want him to do.

I'm not too hung up on the route tree, but I'm having a hard time getting past the four years of nada production only to become Megatron in year 5.

I just can't get past that.

Coleman and Legette are the risky two IMO

Both are plus athletes and have production concerns.

Coleman has great hands but doesn't separate.

Had he had the production....he'd be going in the top 5.

Questioning it is fine, but in the end, we need elite dudes and this is one way to get them.

I know. It's problematic for me as well. But if I did learn anything from D.K. Metcalf (who I thought would NOT translate to the NFL well at all, was way wrong on), it's to look at some context on their college stats.

His true freshman year, he didn't play much - which isn't unusual, especially for a player moving positions from HS (he was a QB in high school).

His sophomore year, he played some in a bad passing offense that threw for less than 2000 yards in 10 games and had bad QB play coordinated by a bad group of coaches. He also missed time with a hamstring injury.

His junior year (21) South Carolina had a new coach who actually thinks offense is worthwhile, but the QB situation was still an issue.

2022 is the first year Legette had even close to a legitimate QB on his team,, and he didn't earn much PT.

2023 was obviously a breakout.

So what does it all mean? It's possible you've got a late bloomer who seized an opportunity once it finally really presented itself (Juice Wells getting injured).

You have to evaluate closely and see how he fits, but everything I can find about him mentions his work ethic and willingness to keep grinding.

It would be a risky first-round pick, but with the size/seed of Legette, if there wasn't some risk KC would never have a chance to pick him.

I think it will end up being moot if he goes to the combine and legit measures in at 6-2/6-3, 220 pounds, with 4.3 speed.

Yeah, if I'm gonna whiff I'll whiff on THAT guy....not Skyy Moore

'Tez Walker is a guy I say "yeah, if I miss, I'll miss on HIM and not the undersized dude without a route tree..."

But I can see that same argument being made for Legette. That's a pick that isn't likely to be the pick I'd make, but if the Chiefs made it I would be okay with it. I can see why they would. I don't think he's as complementary to Rice as other guys they could pursue might be; he does a lot of the same kinds of things.

But hey, even that wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Keep Hardman around to run fast. If Legette turned into a reasonable facsimile of Rice and we had 2 of those guys plus a waterbug like Hardman, I could most assuredly make due with that...

Oh, I'd much rather have a real technician over across from Rashee or a real deep threat guy.

I think Legette could be that, but if he doesn't hit that, with that skillset he can be SOMETHING atleast.

Oh, I fully consider Legette a deep threat guy. He isn’t JUST that, but at his size with that speed would be pretty dangerous on deep overs and flys.

If you want a player to command the safeties staying deep to free up the short and intermediate zones for Kelce and Rice, Legette or Franklin are the guys to look at, with where the Chiefs are.

I'm looking for a guy that can be that pretty quick, but alos has the ability to be a legitimate force once Kelce ages out.

Rice has shown that he can do that.

I don't know that any of these others outside the top 3 are more than complimentary types.

None is clearly more than that. There are several with the potential to be more than complements and history would suggest some would be.

But you do need complimentary types. Rice has all the look and feel of a traditional "X" receiver and go-to player but then we severely lack at the Z and Slot with good move types that can take it yard. One of the reasons I'm so incredibly high on Franklin is that he fits that speed Z role so well. I envision Rice and Franklin as our version of AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith, and that's just not a bad combination. I'm also high on Mooney and Hollywood because they can split time between Z and Slot roles and move around within the formations to create matchups, and Reid loves to do that. You improve the complimentary pieces around Rice and now you have a really potent passing attack. You don't need three of Rice.

I'm not about spending an early pick on a complementary guy though is my thing. Especially when I can get a guy that I don't think is much different in the 2nd/3rd round.

That doesn't always work out really well though. Who would you rather have in the slot? Zay Flowers or Skyy Moore? Do you like Jordan Addison as #2? I'd sure love him over MVS. How about your boy Brandon Aiyuk who has been a compliment to Deebo? Taking a compliment in round 1 isn't a bad thing IMO.

You made my point for me there.

Aiyuk isn't a compliment with his skill set. He's a legit outside Batman, he just happens to have another Batman there.

Flowers and Addison are probably more complements long term with their skill set. I don't care for that.

I think they'll be better, but there is a universe out there that those two guys end up more Hardman than whoever.

At WR, size and physical attributes just matter. Look at Devonta Smith in Philly once AJ went MIA.

If they can add another good WR, great go for it, they should. But they can add a guy like that alot cheaper and more cost effective than using a first on it.

can't say i'm too high on legette. spending a first round pick on a late bloomer with these eerily familiar weaknesses? no thanks.

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Sure, if you trust their scouting at the position. History, Rice notwithstanding, shows that they are more likely to take the wrong guy if they end up waiting.

Hell, you said you wouldn’t be opposed to an interior OL in the 1st. A “complimentary” WR similar to Addison, D. Smith, Flowers, etc. is a hell of a lot more valuable than a guard.

Nah, a good player is valuable.

Position somewhat be damned.

If there's a really good safety there, take him. Let Reid go, use that money for a WR or whatever etc.

Yes, a good player is valuable, even if that player is a “complimentary” WR. Not even speaking to the need of a WR in round 1, if the pick isn’t WR then so be it. But I strongly disagree with the idea that a Devonta Smith type in rd 1 isn’t an ideal selection. Adding someone even close to the caliber of Devonta Smith to this offense instantly takes the group back to a top 5 unit, even more so paired with a smart veteran addition.

That's a different argument though.

Once you've picked the player, yes, you want someone atleast of that caliber.

I'm discussing more so my preference of actual player. Plus, you still have 5 or 6 other draft picks to make. I'm no shoehorning myself into a position ever early in the draft.

You don't have to shoehorn yourself into a single position, but I do not believe for a second that teams don't consider positional value and need when considering BPA.

I like Legette as much as the next guy, but the Chiefs simply don't draft guys his age. Jussayin'.

Kelce (Goat / Middle Field) Brown (Deep Speed), Rice (Tough YAC), and Franklyn (Multi-lvl Route-Runner) could be a really dangerous combination.

That's a pretty convincing vision IMO: "How to fix the offense in just 2 moves."

maybe not in the first, but they drafted BJ Thompson last year.

Just no man. Smith is good without AJ. You want proof, look at his 900-yard season as a rookie when Brown wasn't there.

It was better than both of Aiyuk's first two seasons.

I mean, I just watched highlight videos posted in one of these threads, and Legette seems so much more ready than Franklin.

Franklin looked like another big body playing like a tiny dude - similar to how I felt about whatshisass last year. Legette tracks the ball well and aggressively attacks the ball at the high points and wins contested catches. While Franklin might have more top speed, his acceleration and lateral agility were visibly worse than Legette.
Bottom line: Legette would be higher on my board if I had to just go off those two videos.

And yet this year when AJ went MIA, Smith can't really be the centerpiece.

If Rice can be that, great. I just don't like looking for a guy in the first who I don't think can really be a tried and true alpha. It's probably not rational, but the Sky Moore thing and Hardman has burned me.

Aiyuk puts Smith to shame at this point. We should trade for Aiyuk and not worry about any of this!!

I'm coming at this too from the stance that once we get past.....Harrison JR, Nabers, Odunze....I don't think there's really much separation between the rest.

A couple of them will be good a couple will be decent and a couple will bust. We need to figure out which is which.

Back around draft time there was some talk that the Chiefs did not want to part with their 2024 1st round pick because there is someone in this draft class that Veech is really high on. It didn't specify what position or player that it was. I am assuming it isn't Harrison Jr., because even back then common sense puts Harrison Jr out of out range for a move up, 2024 1st round pick in hand or not.

I wonder if this player is still a target of Veech after this past college season? And if so, will he be willing to go all in and move up to draft that player?

I just don't think they have the draft capital to really move up. They need all the picks this year.

I honestly don't even know wtf you're talking about with this whole "AJ Brown went MIA" thing. Brown played in every game this year. He only had two games with less than 4 receptions all year. I don't know when he went MIA. That entire team went "MIA" if you want to call it that for the entirety of the last half of the season.

DeVonta had at least 4 receptions in all but 3 games and two of those 3 were 3 catches. He had over 1k yards and 7 TDs again. I don't know who you're thinking of but DeVonta Smith never has been less than good. His career trajectory is considerably better than Aiyuk's.

Uh.... Franklin weighs 180 pounds man. He certainly is unlikely to play like a big man.

Leggette is a one-year wonder. I mean, I'm happy he was still a lesser player in his 5th year, after taking roids, than Franklin was in his 3rd.

He's put up 1k yard seasons once Brown got there.

In the playoff game and in any game Brown hasn't been there, Smith seems to be more accessory piece to me but maybe that's just gonna happen when a guy like Brown goes down. He's a good wr, solid player. I don't think it's wrong to say in hindsight, he's been a bit underwhelming considering where he was picked.

Aiyuk's rookie year he missed some games, but since then has been the better player and is playing in a run first play action style offense.

I don't like Leggette in the first but he's probably going there right?


My issue with Franklin (or a couple of these others) in teh first is that I just keep finding guys I like as well in the 2nd.

Aiyuk is a decent comp to Rice IMO

Doesn't just have to be 2024 draft picks...

Daniel Jeremiah just released his first mock. Gave us Tez Walker

I think because Legette is a 5th year + 1 year of production that I don't believe he's going to be a 1st round pick. I think he's going to be too polarizing but Senior Bowl week of practices and combine will give us a better indicator.

I'd be pretty disappointed with Tez in the first- I just don't see how you can value him ahead of Coleman/Franklin/Mitchell etc.

Smith only had 1 season in Philly before Brown got there, his rookie season, in which he put up 916 yards and 5 TDs. That's pretty damn good for a season in which a supposedly complimentary WR operated without Brown on the other side in a less than prolific offense at the time.

Agreed on Tez, but I guess I haven't looked into him too much. I know the guys at PFF are high on him, and he either missed a bunch of games this year or his QB did so his season stats aren't apples-to-apples.

DK Metcalf, the guy everyone likes to compare Legette to, went #64 overall. Legette, however, had about equal yards last season to DK's entire college career. I'd guess top of the 2nd grade? ...is there ANY president for a 5th-yr Sr WR breaking out like Legette?

Good interview with Jim Nagy about some Senior Bowl WR's, particularly Legette, Corley, Cowling and Jha'Quan Jackson.

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Is this guy off our radar? He's got some pretty serious production over the last two years and some unique traits.

10) Malachi Corley, Western Kentucky
There isn’t much Group of Five representation among the top receiver prospects in the 2024 NFL Draft, but Western Kentucky’s Malachi Corley is making up for that ten-fold.

Corley dominated for the Hilltoppers in 2022, amassing 101 catches for 1,293 yards and 11 touchdowns. In 2023, he nearly reflected that production with 79 catches for 984 yards and 11 more scores.

Corley is one of the most unique WRs in the 2024 crop, sporting a hyper-dense 5’11”, 210-pound frame. With his burst and contact balance, he’s an elite RAC weapon over the middle of the field and during screen passes.

Corley also has the toughness and physicality to secure contested attempts. While he can keep refining his game as an independent separator, his ability to explode through space and generate extra yards is invaluable, as he showed time and time again this season.

Video above claims Legette's only 6-1.

Keon Coleman's supposed to be 6-4, looks it too, and has some really nice highlights!

Changing my mind about Coleman, again. He or Legette would be interesting playmakers in KC.

I may have missed it, but has there been any discussion on here of Brenden Rice (Jerry Rice's son)? See rankings showing him as a day 2 prospect. He certainly has the pedigree and the size/speed numbers look good, wouldn't mind another Rice at WR lol.

The guys at The Huddle Report just released their first Top 200 board yesterday and they have him as a 4th rounder. They tend to be as "on par" as anyone with rankings. This will obviously move come spring but its solid right now IMO.

https://thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml

If he runs willi think he will move up into the second round

Entirely possible to maybe even probable. I think he's no less than a mid-3rd rounder myself. I think he's better than McConkey, Wilson, Wilson, Corley, and Burton on that list. I also trust his hands and his routes. He looks like a 4.50 guy like Rashee to me, maybe high 4.4s.

ESPN Mel Kiper Mock (Jan 23):

29. Kansas City Chiefs
Troy Franklin, WR, Oregon

Did you expect me to go with another position? Kansas City's receivers really struggled this season, outside of rookie second-rounder Rashee Rice, who might already be their top wideout. Chiefs pass-catchers dropped 38 passes during the regular season, ranking last in the league. That's why I'm giving them a talented playmaker with this pick.

Franklin averaged 17.1 yards per catch in 2023 and had 23 receiving touchdowns over the past two seasons. He is a big, 6-foot-3 target with deceptive speed who can break tackles after the catch. This isn't the first time I've projected Kansas City to land a receiver in Round 1 -- I gave them Zay Flowers in my final 2023 mock -- but the hole is too large to not fill here. By the way, this makes seven wideouts in Round 1, which would tie the record for most in a single draft (2004).

I think Harrison, Nabers, Odunze, Thomas Jr, and Coleman are all off the board by our pick, plus one more. Unless we're considering a current outlier like Worthy, McConkey, Burton, Walker, or Wilson...I think we'll end up having our choice between 2 of these guys: Mitchell, Franklyn, or Legette.

-Franklyn is the smart choice, best all around WR and great stats.
-Legette is a monster athlete, but only busted out his 5th year.
-Mitchell has great size, speed, WR skills combo, but has far less production.

I'm surprised so many are harping on Legette for his production and ignoring Mitchell's, although he certainly isn't getting as much attention as the other WRs IMO. He only had 845 yards in 23, 135 in 22, and 426 in 21. Sure he's younger, but I'm not sure why he's in the conversation for RD 1.

Currently, I think someone will nab Franklyn ahead of us as the 6th WR off the board. Maybe we move up to get him, which would be something we've seen the Chiefs do in the past. If not, that makes our decision a lot tougher. Personally, I'd go Legette over Mitchell but I could see Mahomes, Reid, and Veach potentially growing enamored with one one of the outliers listed above.

What do you think? Are we cornered into taking Legette?

Why are you spelling Franklin as "FranklYn"?

My bad.

No worries, just made me question for a second if I was misspelling his name as FranklYn isn't the most common way to spell that name.

I have a similar nagging feeling Franklin is gone if we don't move up. I think both he and Thomas go in the 20s and we'll need to move to get one. I'd be happy moving up a few spots for Frnaklin, not sure about Thomas, and as much as I like Franklin I wouldn't want to give up TOO much, we've got plenty of holes to plug. If Franklin is left around 25 I'd probably move up, but if ey stayed put and got someone like Mitchell I'd probably be fine with that.

If we stayed put and got Legette after those 3 had gone I'd be nervous but also fine and could see the reason. Aside from Coleman the only other guy with R1 hype i don't get is Tez Walker.

It's because he's black.

Top 10
-Harrison
-Nabers

Top 20
-Odunze

Top 30
-Thomas Jr
-Franklyn

On the Fence 1st/2nd
-Legette

...My .02c

I'd stay put and take one of those guys if they're there....I don't think I'd trade up for one.

If Odunze gets to 18...make that call

Parsin' the line pretty thin there, aren't ya?

"Oh Legette's a top 32 prospect, but top 30? Nah, that's a bridge too far...."

lol yeah, what I meant was Legette goes #30+ and is a potential 2 rounder.

lol. I was thinking it... then I read it from you.

Edited.

Somebody is going to take a chance on Legette's measurables.

I hope it's NOT KC, although if we DON'T, it pretty much assures that he'll be Megatron II, Electric Boogaloo.

No way he lasts into the 2nd, not after DK Metcalf's trajectory. Just my opinion.

I'm good with several of these guys.

Even if we're picking #32, I could see someone like Worthy being the pick, and with that speed and ball tracking, that'd be just fine.

but my first choices as of right now, with minor research, are Franklin and Mitchell.

I'm taking Legette in that situation. I like Franklin and Mitchell but I don't know that they're a whole round better prospect than Polk who I'd love to have in the 2nd.

If I'm locked into WR there, I'd gamble on Legette's traits over Franklin and Mitchell. I just think they're too small. Definitely over Coleman.

I really need to look at some clips of Walker vs. Legette. That's gonna be the decision we have to make, IMO. I don't think the rest are realistic; we're not getting the top 3 guys (they'll go top 20) and I think it's likely that Thomas goes around 25.

So when we get up I think there's a solid chance that Walker and Legette are on the board. Both of them have production issues - Walker's being his platform year and Legette being every year PRIOR to the platform year. Both have moments of outstanding tape. Both are likely to have really good measurables.

I think you're looking at a real scouting question on both of those guys. And I think I'd be pretty happy with either of them going to KC in the 1st because it tells me that our scouts have reviewed them pretty closely and signed off on them. And both have traits that appear to present 1,000 yard receiver upside.

Yeah, I'm gonna take a swing on traits there. If they were as productive as their traits say they should be...shit they're both what, top 15 guys?

I'm leaning towards Franklin-Legette-Mitchell as my preference right now. All 3 are guys I would be excited to add/see in this offense.

If Legette is a legit 6-2/225 or bigger and runs a 4.3, that's an awful lot of upside to swing on. His route work and movement don't appear to be issues, and he has huge, strong hands. Lot to like there. And I know people keep saying "Next DK Metcalf" but I think you have said he's more like AJ Brown to you, and I buy that. But maybe it's "AJ Brown with just a touch more speed."

Neither Brown nor Metcalf were impressively productive at Ole Miss...

My only concern with Franklin is his durability/ability to play at his current weight.

I just always look at situations and players later in the draft of similar set up.

I don't think there's a big jump from Franklin down to.....Polk or whoever.

Legette down to the next guy is a pretty big step.

Franklin is light but he doesn't play small, at all. And he's a fair bit bigger than guys that have made it. I think his releases are insanely good and a step above most of the guys mentioned. He may get bullied in the NFL, I doubt it, and I'd take him over Legette. But if we went Legette, cool, I'm down with it if he's the athlete he's billed to be.

Also a reminder to myself, i'm almost 100% wrong on WRs, a genuinely uncanny intuition for picking duds over studs. So go ahead and assume Legette is the next AJ Brown/Jerry Rice or whatever.

I agree, I see AJ Brown > DK Metcalf when I watch his film.

Are we sleeping on "Tez" Walker?

He's supposedly 6-3, 200 lbs, fast and thrives on the deep ball.

He had 921 yards and 11 TDs his sophomore year, was on pace to beat that last season but only played 8 games for 699 yards and 7 TDS.

Lots of draft guys seem to be high on him.

I didn't see it at all, but seeing some of the Kent State stuff and he looks a better athlete than I thought. Better acceleration for certain.

Give me Walker or Legette if I'm gonna swing at one in the late first.

Who's sleeping on him?

He may be my WR4 in this draft.