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The Franchise 04-04-2023 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16888949)
You don't get the point. Not everybody, actually the majority, aren't criticizing Angel's actions simply because she's black. Just because that's the issue for a small minority doesn't mean that it is for all of the others.

The criticism is fair. She's not a victim.
Dude...you don't get my point. Should this be a race issue? No, absolutely not. But it is because people love nothing more than to call out a young, black woman for being over the top. Is it a majority of people? No. But the people that do are loud as ****.

It isn't the first time that it's happened and it won't be the last.

ghak99 04-04-2023 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16888942)
But that's sports fans. It's nothing new, and it's never going to change.

It's not a race issue. Angel isn't some victim, that's the narrative I'm seeing now, and it's ridiculous.
It became a race issue when the South Carolina coach made it a race issue in her post game interview after the loss to Iowa. Unfortunately, the NC was going to be tainted with it no matter the outcome.

staylor26 04-04-2023 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16888953)
Dude...you don't get my point. Should this be a race issue? No, absolutely not. But it is because people love nothing more than to call out a young, black woman for being over the top. Is it a majority of people? No. But the people that do are loud as ****.

It isn't the first time that it's happened and it won't be the last.
If the roles were reveresed, and the hypocrites on the other side were being vocal and making it about race, something tells me that you wouldn't be so quick to push that overarching narrative about the issue.

You don't think there are black people that would "love nothing more than to call out a young, white woman for being over the top" if the roles were reversed?

The Franchise 04-04-2023 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16888962)
If the roles were reveresed, and the hypocrites on the other side were being vocal and making it about race, something tells me that you wouldn't be so quick to push that overarching narrative about the issue.
Something tells me that you really don't know me that well. There's no point in arguing this. We don't agree and probably won't.

chiefzilla1501 04-04-2023 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 16888956)
It became a race issue when the South Carolina coach made it a race issue in her post game interview after the loss to Iowa. Unfortunately, the NC was going to be tainted with it no matter the outcome.
that's how I see it too. Iowa and Clark did nothing to provoke LSU yet Reese took it personally enough to have major beef with Clark. I don't blame Reese for that. She used it as fuel the way the chiefs used the burrowhead shit. But it's clear that her anger with Clark had a lot to do with what public opinion was telling her to think. And that's the unsettling part for me. I get Staley's point to some small degree but she was wrong to make a spectacle of it.

staylor26 04-04-2023 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16888963)
Something tells me that you really don't know me that well. There's no point in arguing this. We don't agree and probably won't.
Sorry, you beat me to my edit. I was trying to include a question so we can try to meet in the middle a bit here. That's my fault.

You don't think there are black people that would "love nothing more than to call out a young, white woman for being over the top" if the roles were reversed?

Because there absolutely would be, and racism wouldn't become the overarching narrative like it is with this issue. People would understand that it's not about race for the majoirty, and they wouldn't feed into that. That's really all I'm trying to say here.

Danguardace 04-04-2023 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16888973)
Sorry, you beat me to my edit. I was trying to include a question so we can try to meet in the middle a bit here.

You don't think there are black people that would "love nothing more than to call out a young, white woman for being over the top" if the roles were reversed?
Yep black people spend all day thinking of ways bring White folk down.

The Franchise 04-04-2023 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16888973)
Sorry, you beat me to my edit. I was trying to include a question so we can try to meet in the middle a bit here. That's my fault.

You don't think there are black people that would "love nothing more than to call out a young, white woman for being over the top" if the roles were reversed?
Sure because there are people in every race who do that.

Do you honestly believe that racism only exists when people are standing up and yelling the N word?

Titty Meat 04-04-2023 09:42 AM
DC thread

The Franchise 04-04-2023 09:42 AM
Oh look....MarkDavis' reeruned ass is here to downvote every one of my posts. Right on time.

displacedinMN 04-04-2023 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16888951)
As always there's two sides to this. I tend to agree that theres a double standard. Largely I don't give a **** what she did because athletes, especially male athletes, do this all the time and to a large degree Caitlin Clark does it too and she didn't seem to care. At the same time what Reese did was excessive and definitely way beyond what Clark did. Clark was just being cocky and clapping back. Reese was taunting. Again, I don't think it's classless or anything. Just part of the game. But they aren't one in the same.

Where I'm a lot more bothered is the way dawn Staley threw bait and the media took it and somehow turned Clark into a cocky asshole and her supporters as racist hypocrites. She screamed racism because the Iowa coach complimented her team for being "bar fighters" meaning they play tough and scrappy. She then tried to parallel that to racist insults that I don't think were ever said. That's what Reese fed off of because it doesn't seem like Iowa was being disrespectful specifically to lsu. This is coming from someone who doesn't root for Iowa and is usually plenty supportive if diversity efforts. I thought Staley crossed the line and the media took the bait and unfairly dogpiled on Iowa.

The compliment was taken as a racist dig. Cant say anything anymore.

I like you take. This shit has gone far enough. Get it out of the news.

staylor26 04-04-2023 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16888978)
Sure because there are people in every race who do that.

Do you honestly believe that racism only exists when people are standing up and yelling the N word?
No, of course not. I've already conceded that it is in fact about race for some of the people complaining/criticizing.

But here's the problem. Now, any white person that criticizes her actions gets thrown in with those people.

Look at Dave Portnoy. I know he's a ****ing jackass 99% of the time, but his criticism was fair. It had nothing to do with race, yet he's become the poster boy for "white people are racist" with this issue. I've seen people calling for his black employees to speak up in protest of a ****ing OPINION.

We can't go so far the other way that white people aren't allowed to criticize the actions of black people without being labeled racist. That's just absurd.

staylor26 04-04-2023 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16888976)
Yep black people spend all day thinking of ways bring White folk down.
"Only white people are racist"

This is why you don't get a legitimate response. There's no point in having this discussion with people that think like this.

Danguardace 04-04-2023 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16889004)
"Only white people are racist"

This is why you don't get a legitimate response. There's no point in having this discussion with people that think like this.
When did I say that? As usual you're just a defensive little pussy.

Danguardace 04-04-2023 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16889017)
Maybe you need to go back and actually ****ing read then you dumb ****.
I asked if white people played the "why has everything got to be about race?" card at more crucial times in histrory, than over a basketball game. I think it is a valid question.

staylor26 04-04-2023 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16889025)
I asked if white people played the "why has everything got to be about race?" card at more crucial times in histrory, than over a basketball game. I think it is a valid question.
That's not the post I quoted you stupid mother****er.

Danguardace 04-04-2023 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16889035)
That's not the post I quoted you stupid mother****er.
Of course

ARROW2 04-04-2023 10:17 AM
This thread is still going? Must be a slow week. Who cares, they lost. NEXT

ThaVirus 04-04-2023 10:22 AM
I don't really care much about any of this, but I do have to laugh at those who think Reese following Clark around for 10 seconds gloating after the game is excessive/disrespectful/classless but DON'T think Clark legitimately waving off the player at the 3-point line mid game is similarly disrespectful.

jd1020 04-04-2023 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889082)
I don't really care much about any of this, but I do have to laugh at those who think Reese following Clark around for 10 seconds gloating after the game is excessive/disrespectful/classless but DON'T think Clark legitimately waving off the player at the 3-point line mid game is similarly disrespectful.
It's like a bunch of SB referee's in here calling back the catch fumble, "She didn't maintain the disrespect for long enough."

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2023 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16888990)
Oh look....MarkDavis' reeruned ass is here to downvote every one of my posts. Right on time.
Just returning the favor. :thumb:

staylor26 04-04-2023 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889082)
I don't really care much about any of this, but I do have to laugh at those who think Reese following Clark around for 10 seconds gloating after the game is excessive/disrespectful/classless but DON'T think Clark legitimately waving off the player at the 3-point line mid game is similarly disrespectful.
They're both disrespectful to varying degrees, sure.

But we all draw the line somewhere. We were fine with Kelce's shit talking after the AFCCG, but we also agreed that JuJu went to far after the SB.

What Clark did in the OP and what Angel did are not the same exact thing. Not even really that close. I highly doubt we are even having this discussion if Angel does the same exact thing in the OP.

She followed her around after the game taunting her fore 15 secs, even doing the L on her forehead by the bench area after, then more of it in her IG live. It was the epitome of "excessive", and there's nothing wrong with describing it that way.

UChieffyBugger 04-04-2023 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16888951)
As always there's two sides to this. I tend to agree that theres a double standard. Largely I don't give a **** what she did because athletes, especially male athletes, do this all the time and to a large degree Caitlin Clark does it too and she didn't seem to care. At the same time what Reese did was excessive and definitely way beyond what Clark did. Clark was just being cocky and clapping back. Reese was taunting. Again, I don't think it's classless or anything. Just part of the game. But they aren't one in the same.

Where I'm a lot more bothered is the way dawn Staley threw bait and the media took it and somehow turned Clark into a cocky asshole and her supporters as racist hypocrites. She screamed racism because the Iowa coach complimented her team for being "bar fighters" meaning they play tough and scrappy. She then tried to parallel that to racist insults that I don't think were ever said. That's what Reese fed off of because it doesn't seem like Iowa was being disrespectful specifically to lsu. This is coming from someone who doesn't root for Iowa and is usually plenty supportive if diversity efforts. I thought Staley crossed the line and the media took the bait and unfairly dogpiled on Iowa.
I don't get why folks keep harping on about Dawn Staley. Her team were dominating the competition all year and folks were complaining about their style and comparing them to "the bad boy pistons" and not in a good way hence why the Iowa coach talking about a "bar fight" was offensive to Carolina. She also said media personnel were making prejudice comments behind their backs which got back to Dawn. What's wrong with that?

These games were the first time since the 60s or something that an all white starting five were facing an all black starting five so an anomaly like this was always gonna shine a light on race. If Clark was black on an all black team would the ratings have been so high and the hype so big? Doubt it. Many white Americans were rooting for Clark and her team against a brash black LSU team and when the black team whooped that ass and mocked Clark that triggered folks. It is what it is I just hope all this hype continues next season for the ladies game.

Mecca 04-04-2023 10:50 AM
In my view, shit talking during the game is competition and part of it, once the game ends it ends. If you do by following someone around after the game ends to talk shit, you're just being a bitch about it.

staylor26 04-04-2023 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16889130)
In my view, shit talking during the game is competition and part of it, once the game ends it ends. If you do by following someone around after the game ends to talk shit, you're just being a bitch about it.
Completely fair, especially when that person wasn't talking shit or anything to you or your teammates during the game.

BigCatDaddy 04-04-2023 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16889130)
In my view, shit talking during the game is competition and part of it, once the game ends it ends. If you do by following someone around after the game ends to talk shit, you're just being a bitch about it.
Yep, once you start stalking someone that's too much. A few words, a quick gesture, yeah sure. But Clark was obviously living rent free in that chicks head.

chiefzilla1501 04-04-2023 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Danguardace (Post 16889025)
I asked if white people played the "why has everything got to be about race?" card at more crucial times in histrory, than over a basketball game. I think it is a valid question.
Believe me, I am often on your side on this issue. But in this case Staley threw the bait. And it's not that different of a playbook from what you're saying and it's also a common tactic for the woke mob. I get some of what she's saying but using the race card to the extent she did to demonize Iowa was blatantly done to draw a reaction. Even advocates like myself recognize there are ways to call out these kinds of issues without the harsh blanket accusations.

And so now instead of celebrating Iowa for their remarkable achievement or LSU for their even more remarkable achievement, we are throwing blows at kids over who is the more classless asshole. It didn't have to be that way.

UChieffyBugger 04-04-2023 11:16 AM
Lol why are people acting like Angel was "excessive"?? Clark was trying to act like she couldn't see Angel and Angel was MAKING SURE she saw it. That's all there is too it. When Kelce scored that OT td against the Chargers do people remember MAHOMES running over near the Bolts sideline flexing, banging his chest and mocking them? I guess not. Do people remember Tyrann waving off the Niners sideline when we won the superbowl? I guess not. IT HAPPENS FFS!! :evil:

chiefzilla1501 04-04-2023 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16889122)
I don't get why folks keep harping on about Dawn Staley. Her team were dominating the competition all year and folks were complaining about their style and comparing them to "the bad boy pistons" and not in a good way hence why the Iowa coach talking about a "bar fight" was offensive to Carolina. She also said media personnel were making prejudice comments behind their backs which got back to Dawn. What's wrong with that?

These games were the first time since the 60s or something that an all white starting five were facing an all black starting five so an anomaly like this was always gonna shine a light on race. If Clark was black on an all black team would the ratings have been so high and the hype so big? Doubt it. Many white Americans were rooting for Clark and her team against a brash black LSU team and when the black team whooped that ass and mocked Clark that triggered folks. It is what it is I just hope all this hype continues next season for the ladies game.
They play tough physical basketball. Clearly Iowa's coach meant that as a compliment when she used the term bar fight and it's not hard to see what Staley was trying to do when she immediately reached to tie anecdotal racist remarks into it. At worst it was a well intentioned compliment taken the wrong way. It doesn't justify the harsh implied accusations.

She knew what she was doing when she targeted Iowa the way she did, and it's not hard to see why she picked them specifically. There are a million ways she could have delivered the message without demonizing Iowa the way she did. I sympathize with what she wants but when is the woke mob going to learn that this level of race baiting is not productive. Throwing a bunch of innocent girls under the bus to shine a spotlight isn't the way to go.

UChieffyBugger 04-04-2023 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16889241)
They play tough physical basketball. Clearly Iowa's coach meant that as a compliment when she used the term bar fight and it's not hard to see what Staley was trying to do when she immediately reached to tie anecdotal racist remarks into it. At worst it was a well intentioned compliment taken the wrong way. It doesn't justify the harsh implied accusations.

She knew what she was doing when she targeted Iowa the way she did, and it's not hard to see why she picked them specifically. There are a million ways she could have delivered the message without demonizing Iowa the way she did. I sympathize with what she wants but when is the woke mob going to learn that this level of race baiting is not productive. Throwing a bunch of innocent girls under the bus to shine a spotlight isn't the way to go.
She didn't mention the Iowa players and if they felt they were being harshly treated all year why shouldn't they speak their truth? People need to get over it.

alpha_omega 04-04-2023 11:40 AM
ROFL Which one of you is going to start the official WNBA thread when the season starts?

notorious 04-04-2023 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16889247)
ROFL Which one of you is going to start the official WNBA thread when the season starts?
LMAO

Rams Fan 04-04-2023 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16889247)
ROFL Which one of you is going to start the official WNBA thread when the season starts?
Aren't you the same guy that bitches about there being a Cardinals thread?

AdolfOliverBush 04-04-2023 11:45 AM
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chiefzilla1501 04-04-2023 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16889245)
She didn't mention the Iowa players and if they felt they were being harshly treated all year why shouldn't they speak their truth? People need to get over it.
She blasted the Iowa coach for her bar fight comment then immediately jumped to anecdotes about actual racist remarks. It's not hard to see she was trying to force an implied connection there. She made it about the Iowa coach which of course is going to trickle down to the players. What did she think was gonna happen? I'll rephrase that... She knew what reaction would snowball out of it and she's undoubtedly glad to see that the finals turned out to be so polarizing because of the narrative she introduced.

ThaVirus 04-04-2023 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16889113)
They're both disrespectful to varying degrees, sure.

But we all draw the line somewhere. We were fine with Kelce's shit talking after the AFCCG, but we also agreed that JuJu went to far after the SB.

What Clark did in the OP and what Angel did are not the same exact thing. Not even really that close. I highly doubt we are even having this discussion if Angel does the same exact thing in the OP.

She followed her around after the game taunting her fore 15 secs, even doing the L on her forehead by the bench area after, then more of it in her IG live. It was the epitome of "excessive", and there's nothing wrong with describing it that way.
It's all pretty arbitrary.

I think what Clark did is just as bad when you consider that there are multiple instances, including in-game. Not even in-game, but "between the whistles" so to speak.

In any case, I think Reese's actions have been blown out of proportion. Clark invited this sort of thing when she was talking her shit.

staylor26 04-04-2023 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889282)
It's all pretty arbitrary.

I think what Clark did is just as bad when you consider that there are multiple instances, including in-game. Not even in-game, but "between the whistles" so to speak.

In any case, I think Reese's actions have been blown out of proportion. Clark invited this sort of thing when she was talking her shit.
Which means your opinion on this shouldn't be taken seriously.

ThaVirus 04-04-2023 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16889295)
Which means your opinion on this shouldn't be taken seriously.
No one gives a shit about your opinion, string bean bitch.

ARROW2 04-04-2023 01:26 PM
Staley overreacted and the response to the LSU player is an overreaction. Much ado about nothing. Now they can go back to not being watched.

Red Dawg 04-04-2023 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by alpha_omega (Post 16889247)
ROFL Which one of you is going to start the official WNBA thread when the season starts?
Cracks me up that a business that loses money every year is still around just because nobody wants to look bad killing off girl's pro basketbal.. It's a shit product that nobody watches. Women don't watch it and it was made for them to get their fake equality.

chiefzilla1501 04-04-2023 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 16889470)
Staley overreacted and the response to the LSU player is an overreaction. Much ado about nothing. Now they can go back to not being watched.
Agreed

Radar Chief 04-04-2023 03:35 PM
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The Franchise 04-04-2023 05:54 PM
Caitlin Clark said that she shouldn’t be criticized for this. We cool to shut the **** up about it being “classless” now?

BigCatDaddy 04-04-2023 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16889925)
Caitlin Clark said that she shouldn’t be criticized for this. We cool to shut the **** up about it being “classless” now?
She took the high road on it. A great role model and example. She is someone I can for sure see women's basketball being built around. It's about more than what you do on the court. You need to me an MJ or Mahomes type personality outside the lines to win people over. She has "it".

MatriculatingHank 04-04-2023 08:17 PM
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Hammock Parties 04-04-2023 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16890116)
She is someone I can for sure see women's basketball being built around.
yeah maybe she can help the league break even LMAO

FloridaMan88 04-04-2023 08:26 PM
14.69 million viewers for the least watched Men’s National Championship Game ever.

9.8 million for the most watched Women’s National Championship Game ever.

Both were on network TV.

BigCatDaddy 04-05-2023 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16890141)
14.69 million viewers for the least watched Men’s National Championship Game ever.

9.8 million for the most watched Women’s National Championship Game ever.

Both were on network TV.
Sunday’s audience matched or exceeded every game of last year’s NBA Playoffs except for the NBA Finals (Game 7 of the Celtics-Heat Eastern Conference Finals also averaged 9.9 million) and topped every game of last year’s Major League Baseball Postseason except for the World Series, every NASCAR race since 2017 (including the Daytona 500) and every NHL game in more than 50 years (including the Stanley Cup Final).

Only 11 college football games averaged a larger audience during last season, including the playoff. The Rose Bowl had only slightly more viewers at 10.19 million.

BeMyValentine 04-05-2023 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16890141)
14.69 million viewers for the least watched Men’s National Championship Game ever.

9.8 million for the most watched Women’s National Championship Game ever.

Both were on network TV.
And 99% of advertising dollars go towards men's sports. That might even out a little over the next generation.

jd1020 04-05-2023 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BeMyValentine (Post 16890613)
And 99% of advertising dollars go towards men's sports. That might even out a little over the next generation.
Only if people start giving a **** about women sports. Unlikely to happen. Dollars follow the people and the people dont follow women sports.

FloridaMan88 04-05-2023 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by BeMyValentine (Post 16890613)
And 99% of advertising dollars go towards men's sports. That might even out a little over the next generation.
Obviously advertisers are going to invest in a sport that has more viewers/fans in every metric... TV, streaming, web views, etc.

mr. tegu 04-05-2023 09:58 AM
Caitlin Clark is ****ing awesome
 
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889282)
It's all pretty arbitrary.

I think what Clark did is just as bad when you consider that there are multiple instances, including in-game. Not even in-game, but "between the whistles" so to speak.

In any case, I think Reese's actions have been blown out of proportion. Clark invited this sort of thing when she was talking her shit.

In one instance the player getting waved off can use her skills and abilities to make you pay for the disrespect shown by waving her off and drive and score or in some other way make you look foolish on the court during the course of the game. In the other, the game is over and the player can either ignore it or take it personal and start a scuffle. Obviously very different dynamics of risk to yourself and team with the disrespect/taunting.

htismaqe 04-05-2023 10:18 AM
Clark herself basically said it was no big deal. Bluder has been nothing but complimentary of LSU (including declining an invite to the WH because she said that honor belongs to LSU).

The fact that this is still an issue when the actual participants don't see it as an issue says a lot about our society.

ChiTown 04-05-2023 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16890743)
Clark herself basically said it was no big deal. Bluder has been nothing but complimentary of LSU (including declining an invite to the WH because she said that honor belongs to LSU).

The fact that this is still an issue when the actual participants don't see it as an issue says a lot about our society.
The media LOVES a good controversy, especially if they can make it a racial issue. Our media is the pariah we should be universally loathing

ARROW2 04-05-2023 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16890743)
Clark herself basically said it was no big deal. Bluder has been nothing but complimentary of LSU (including declining an invite to the WH because she said that honor belongs to LSU).

The fact that this is still an issue when the actual participants don't see it as an issue says a lot about our society.


Similar to the Bradberry hold on JUJU....LOL

htismaqe 04-05-2023 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 16890771)
Similar to the Bradberry hold on JUJU....LOL
Yep.

Or Ossai pushing Mahomes while OOB.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-05-2023 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 16890752)
The media LOVES a good controversy, especially if they can make it a racial issue. Our media is the pariah we should be universally loathing
Sports media is dead as anything useful.

We used to have sportswriters like Grantland Rice. Now we have hacks like Pearlman and others.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16890700)
In one instance the player getting waved off can use her skills and abilities to make you pay for the disrespect shown by waving her off and drive and score or in some other way make you look foolish on the court during the course of the game. In the other, the game is over and the player can either ignore it or take it personal and start a scuffle. Obviously very different dynamics of risk to yourself and team with the disrespect/taunting.
I would never argue that they weren't different. I'm arguing that you cannot be upset with one and not the other, IMO, especially when citing class. Clark stopped playing the game in order to disrespect her opponent. That is decidedly not classy.

Your argument is weak also because Clark and her teammates also had 45 minutes (or however long a college game lasts) to win the game and ensure that she was never made to look foolish.

BigCatDaddy 04-05-2023 11:50 AM
She just generated 620 post on CP. If that isn't GOAT shit for a woman's player I don't know what is.

staylor26 04-05-2023 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890930)
I would never argue that they weren't different. I'm arguing that you cannot be upset with one and not the other, IMO, especially when citing class. Clark stopped playing the game in order to disrespect her opponent. That is decidedly not classy.

Your argument is weak also because Clark and her teammates also had 45 minutes (or however long a college game lasts) to win the game and ensure that she was never made to look foolish.
LMAO

That's what you think happened? She didn't "stop playing the game" dumbass. She dared her to shoot the 3 ball. She didn't stop playing altogether.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16890979)
LMAO

That's what you think happened? She didn't "stop playing the game" dumbass. She dared her to shoot the 3 ball. That doesn't mean she stopped playing altogether.
She was supposed to be playing defense. She chose not to simply to disrespect her opponent.

I understand that you've got her cock lodged in your throat, but it is disrespectful and far from classy.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 12:12 PM
Also, I would ****ing dunk on you, little bitch boy. Don't argue with me about the game of my people.

staylor26 04-05-2023 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890988)
She was supposed to be playing defense. She chose not to simply to disrespect her opponent.

I understand that you've got her cock lodged in your throat, but it is disrespectful and far from classy.
She didn't stop ****ing playing defense dumbass. She was sacrificing the 3 ball to stay in the paint.

I agreed that it was disrespectful, but you're just trying way too hard to make it sound as bad as what Angel did.

staylor26 04-05-2023 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890990)
Also, I would ****ing dunk on you, little bitch boy. Don't argue with me about the game of my people.
You wouldn't beat me in any sport or a fight pussy.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16890991)
She didn't stop ****ing playing defense dumbass. She was sacrificing the 3 ball to stay in the paint.

I agreed that it was disrespectful, but you're just trying way too hard to make it sound as bad as what Angel did.
She made a point to wave her off and let everyone know that she didn't think homegirl could shoot.

Combine that with the "you can't see me" and other trash talk and I'd say she does not need anyone to come to her defense. She's been writing a lot of checks and this one bounced.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16891006)
You wouldn't beat me in any sport or a fight pussy.
You're 6'0" and weigh 160 pounds. I would 100% demolish you in an Oklahoma drill.

mr. tegu 04-05-2023 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890930)
I would never argue that they weren't different. I'm arguing that you cannot be upset with one and not the other, IMO, especially when citing class. Clark stopped playing the game in order to disrespect her opponent. That is decidedly not classy.
This is exactly what an argument that they are the same thing looks like.

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889082)
I don't really care much about any of this, but I do have to laugh at those who think Reese following Clark around for 10 seconds gloating after the game is excessive/disrespectful/classless but DON'T think Clark legitimately waving off the player at the 3-point line mid game is similarly disrespectful.
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890930)
Your argument is weak also because Clark and her teammates also had 45 minutes (or however long a college game lasts) to win the game and ensure that she was never made to look foolish.
No idea what this is supposed to be. The taunting and ring finger thing was when the game was over. She had no risk of looking foolish on the court after this taunting and disrespect. So again, completely different circumstances.

staylor26 04-05-2023 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16891024)
You're 6'0" and weigh 160 pounds. I would 100% demolish you in an Oklahoma drill.
I'm 6'3" 200 pounds liar.

Rams Fan 04-05-2023 12:33 PM
This thread took another turn and I'm here for it.

LMAO

staylor26 04-05-2023 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16891022)
She made a point to wave her off and let everyone know that she didn't think homegirl could shoot.

Combine that with the "you can't see me" and other trash talk and I'd say she does not need anyone to come to her defense. She's been writing a lot of checks and this one bounced.
If you've paid any attention to what I've been saying, I don't really even have much of an issue with what Angel did. I said it was borderline and clearly excessive. That's all.

What I refuse to do is pretend that Clark ever did the "same thing", because that's just objectively not true.

I even gave you that what she did was disrespectful, but to say she stopped playing altogether is ****ing reeruned. She was still defending the paint.

The Franchise 04-05-2023 12:33 PM
She pointed at her ring finger after the game? The humanity! Like that’s never been done in the history of sports.

All it sounds like to me is some of you guys got your feelings hurt that the team you wanted to win…didn’t. Suck it up, snowflake.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-05-2023 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16891041)
She pointed at her ring finger after the game? The humanity! Like that’s never been done in the history of sports.

All it sounds like to me is some of you guys got your feelings hurt that the team you wanted to win…didn’t. Suck it up, snowflake.
Again... If Iowa would have won and Clark followed Angel around for 15 seconds during the last ticks of the game trying to get a reaction, for something Angel did against another opponent a week before for a second I would be embarrassed of Clark and the media would have been even harsher. It's not that hard to understand the difference, but you know, white privilege...

ToxSocks 04-05-2023 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890990)
Also, I would ****ing dunk on you, little bitch boy. Don't argue with me about the game of my people.
Aren't you like, half china-man or something?

You're basically a Tiger Woods....doesn't really count.

staylor26 04-05-2023 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16891084)
Aren't you like, half china-man or something?

You're basically a Tiger Woods....doesn't really count.
He definitely got his dick from the Asian side.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-05-2023 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16890990)
Also, I would ****ing dunk on you, little bitch boy. Don't argue with me about the game of my people.
The game of your people.

It was invented by a white man. ROFL

staylor26 04-05-2023 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16891041)
She pointed at her ring finger after the game? The humanity! Like that’s never been done in the history of sports.

All it sounds like to me is some of you guys got your feelings hurt that the team you wanted to win…didn’t. Suck it up, snowflake.
Didn't mean to downvote.

TwistedChief 04-05-2023 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16891006)
You wouldn't beat me in any sport or a fight pussy.
You once used this same line on me when I questioned whether you could beat me in a friendly game of croquet.

htismaqe 04-05-2023 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16891155)
You once used this same line on me when I questioned whether you could beat me in a friendly game of croquet.
Now that's an alpha's game...

LoneWolf 04-05-2023 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 16889082)
I don't really care much about any of this, but I do have to laugh at those who think Reese following Clark around for 10 seconds gloating after the game is excessive/disrespectful/classless but DON'T think Clark legitimately waving off the player at the 3-point line mid game is similarly disrespectful.
Wait, why is it disrespectful to waive your hand at a player standing at the three point line with the ball because you know they are incapable of making that shot. She is giving that player every opportunity to prove her wrong by leaving her wide open. That is 1000% different than following a player around giving them the "you can't see me" gesture and pointing to your ring finger in hopes of getting a response.

If Mahomes comes to the line of scrimmage and notices that the defense has a slow middle linebacker manned up with Kelce and Mahomes points at the linebacker to acknowlege that they are about to **** his world up with a seam route, is that being disprespectful to that player? If Mahomes hits Kelce on that seam route for a TD and then Mahomes runs up to the linebacker and gives the touchdown signal right in his face, is that disrespectful? They are two different things.

ThaVirus 04-05-2023 01:45 PM
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Aren't you like, half china-man or something?

You're basically a Tiger Woods....doesn't really count.
Hell nah. This is my Ancestry map.

Note that I’m basically a ****ing Zulu Viking, hence why I say I’d deffo put Staylor in a triangle choke in the octagon. What’s he gonna do when I roll into battle with my face painted, butt ass naked with my dick swinging like my Pict and Gaul ancestors? He can’t do shit but submit!


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