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DrunkBassGuitar 11-26-2021 03:41 PM

just watched it and goddamn

lmao is all I can say.

i hate that quick 3 point shot that 80% of the time bounces off the rim and into the opponents rebounder. seems like when I see that shot being taken when we're is down it usually ends in a loss

DrunkBassGuitar 11-26-2021 03:41 PM

how tf do you blow a 15 point lead to a 2-3 shit tier team lmao

KC_Connection 11-26-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 15977359)
how tf do you blow a 15 point lead to a 2-3 shit tier team lmao

You don't compete hard enough and let a much less talented team run you off the floor. Happened quite often last year too.

KC_Connection 11-26-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15977341)
If that TCU game is the one I'm thinking of, I turned that shit off at halftime, it was so freakin' bad.... it's not like TCU played well, as they shot just a hair under 40% and like 57% FT, but KU somehow not only played worse, but significantly worse.

That was the game where Self compared it to Naismith losing to Topeka YMCA.

ROYC75 11-26-2021 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15977310)
Yes, because good teams that get upset continue to lose forever.

Fact we are not playing very good, yeah we could lose our next game.

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15977321)
They can't play Alabama (which is on the consolation bracket). It will be Iona or Belmont on Sunday.

Oops, Yur right, I stand corrected.

BWillie 11-26-2021 03:52 PM

I've been a huge Harris supporter but he simply can't be on the floor when McCormack is. The spacing is non-existent and Harris refuses to shoot. This offense needs to run through Remy, not Dave.

Wilson, Harris and Dave all played bad but we need guys who can score and will not make us exploitable and easy to defend.

Braun played great today. Agbaji missed some shots but he did take the ball to the rim.

Bearcat 11-26-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15977371)
Fact we are not playing very good, yeah we could lose our next game.

The 2nd half today is the first time they've been outscored in a half all season.

I'd also guess Kansas hasn't lost consecutive games more than let's say 5 times in the past decade or more.

Assuming the 2nd half today means anything at all for the future is an overreaction.

Rams Fan 11-26-2021 05:23 PM

Eh, early season loss.

I wouldn't be too concerned.

KC_Connection 11-26-2021 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15977376)
I've been a huge Harris supporter but he simply can't be on the floor when McCormack is. The spacing is non-existent and Harris refuses to shoot. This offense needs to run through Remy, not Dave.

Wilson, Harris and Dave all played bad but we need guys who can score and will not make us exploitable and easy to defend.

Braun played great today. Agbaji missed some shots but he did take the ball to the rim.

I agree, the spacing is an issue when both are out there and Harris is not respected as an offensive player by defenses (nor should he be). Problem is Harris is one of the few who defends well. The rotations will have to be figured out.

smithandrew051 11-26-2021 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15977509)
Eh, early season loss.

I wouldn't be too concerned.

This.

Question is: does this become a trend or was it just a bad game?

This (like practically every team) team has flaws. We know that. Will they overcome and cover those issues up? We’ll find out.

I’m not worried for now.

Al Czervik 11-26-2021 07:01 PM

9-20 from the line....even with all the other issues, cost em the game

RustShack 11-26-2021 10:48 PM

I’m excited. Bought my Iowa State @ Kansas tickets today. My second trip to the Field House.

BigRedChief 11-27-2021 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 15977509)
Eh, early season loss.

I wouldn't be too concerned.

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 15977564)
This.

Question is: does this become a trend or was it just a bad game?

This (like practically every team) team has flaws. We know that. Will they overcome and cover those issues up? We’ll find out.

I’m not worried for now.

Agreed, Early season loss's don't matter. 9-20 FT shooting didn't help but this was an effort game.

They got up big on them as they should have with such a wide discrepancy in talent between the two teams. KU brought their effort level down and the other team just out efforted and worked them hard to get back in the game. They then started feeling the upset.

If they learn the lesson that you can lose to a way less talented team if you don't play with some passion and effort, might be a good lesson learned come tournament time.

BWillie 11-28-2021 10:16 AM

Ku playing Rick Pitino today

DanBecky 11-28-2021 12:34 PM

Braun playing really well.

BigRedChief 11-28-2021 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15979271)
Ku playing Rick Pitino today

I thought he had retired. Is Iona the best gig he can get these days?

BWillie 11-28-2021 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DanBecky (Post 15979432)
Braun playing really well.

KC_Connection weeps

smithandrew051 11-28-2021 01:56 PM

I hope we get to see more KJ Adams with the smaller lineup. He makes all the high energy plays. He won’t slow us down either.

DrunkBassGuitar 11-28-2021 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15979445)
I thought he had retired. Is Iona the best gig he can get these days?

He was coaching in Greece last year

ROYC75 11-28-2021 03:04 PM

We look better today but still a long ways to go. IMHO still too many turnovers for the quality of team we were playing against. ( 9 ) A better team going is going to take advantage with that many turnovers. We got outscored in the second half.

KC_Connection 11-28-2021 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15979720)
We look better today but still a long ways to go. IMHO still too many turnovers for the quality of team we were playing against. ( 9 ) A better team going is going to take advantage with that many turnovers. We got outscored in the second half.

No defense was played at all in the 2nd half unfortunately.

ljmhawk 11-28-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 15979706)
He was coaching in Greece last year

he coached Iona last year

Chiefspants 11-28-2021 05:47 PM

The hate Self is getting on Twitter for yelling at Remy during the last two games is at a level I haven’t seen in a long time.

BWillie 11-28-2021 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15980118)
The hate Self is getting on Twitter for yelling at Remy during the last two games is at a level I haven’t seen in a long time.

The dude is always yelling. It can't be too pleasant playing for him. Works for some guys, doesn't for others. Remy seems like the guy who can take it though. Seems to take to coaching, at least externally, yet doesn't do what they want.

KC_Connection 11-28-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15980118)
The hate Self is getting on Twitter for yelling at Remy during the last two games is at a level I haven’t seen in a long time.

Another reason not to pay attention to folks on Twitter. Remy's a huge liability defensively right now and he's also making mistakes offensively (he was crucially not where he was supposed to be on the McCormack play against Dayton). He needs to be coached out of his bad habits or they'll never be able to benefit from Remy as much as they could/should.

DrunkBassGuitar 11-28-2021 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ljmhawk (Post 15979760)
he coached Iona last year

Yeah but March 2020 is still last year but I'll admit I thought this was his first year back

Buehler445 11-28-2021 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15980165)
The dude is always yelling. It can't be too pleasant playing for him. Works for some guys, doesn't for others. Remy seems like the guy who can take it though. Seems to take to coaching, at least externally, yet doesn't do what they want.

Oh bullshit.

Guys GUSH about Self. And they were big on having Self on camera a bunch in the Dayton game not sure why but I thought he was clapping and saying alright let’s go. The kind of move on and let’s get the next one stuff more than he has in prior years.

And frankly, during that Dayton game, more than I thought he should have. I’d like to see him fired up Bill a little more. Maybe that doesn’t play for kids anymore. IDK. Suddenly I’m surrounded by reminders that I’m old as ****.

Chiefspants 11-28-2021 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15980977)
Oh bullshit.

Guys GUSH about Self. And they were big on having Self on camera a bunch in the Dayton game not sure why but I thought he was clapping and saying alright let’s go. The kind of move on and let’s get the next one stuff more than he has in prior years.

And frankly, during that Dayton game, more than I thought he should have. I’d like to see him fired up Bill a little more. Maybe that doesn’t play for kids anymore. IDK. Suddenly I’m surrounded by reminders that I’m old as ****.

Twitter is just a spiraling cesspit - with many convinced Self is trying to ruin Remy by having him only focus on throwing it to McCormack. I think getting robbed in 2020 has done a number on the fandom.

Buehler445 11-29-2021 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15980983)
Twitter is just a spiraling cesspit - with many convinced Self is trying to ruin Remy by having him only focus on throwing it to McCormack. I think getting robbed in 2020 has done a number on the fandom.

Thank Christ I'm not on ****ing Twitter.

BWillie 11-29-2021 08:22 AM

Christian Braun is balling out this year. I know KC_Connection says he sucks, but he's always had talent. He's a strong body, tall, and has the hops. His side to side speed is in question but look at his stat line so far this year...

13.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 61.4% FG, 33% 3FG.

To me the biggest thing is he's making shots close to the rim. That has been his bugaboo the last couple of years. If he can keep this up and shown that he knows how to finish and that three point shot starts to fall --- look out.

Lzen 11-29-2021 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15981144)
Christian Braun is balling out this year. I know KC_Connection says he sucks, but he's always had talent. He's a strong body, tall, and has the hops. His side to side speed is in question but look at his stat line so far this year...

13.8 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 61.4% FG, 33% 3FG.

To me the biggest thing is he's making shots close to the rim. That has been his bugaboo the last couple of years. If he can keep this up and shown that he knows how to finish and that three point shot starts to fall --- look out.

Yeah, KCC was dogging on him early in the season, but I think there were a few others that also went along with that. Admittedly, he had a bad first game or two and so it may have been justified. But since then, he's been playing well. I thought he looked good as a frosh and last year was probably the dreaded sophomore slump. Hopefully, he continues playing like he has. As of right now, he's playing better than guys like Wilson and Martin (overall). That may change but I still believe he will be one of our best 5-6 players by season's end.

DanBecky 11-29-2021 10:02 AM

Self had always been about tough love the moment he stepped foot on campus. Hell, since he started coaching. Not a damn thing has changed.

Pants 11-29-2021 10:03 AM

The problem with Braun is that he will disappear completely when it actually matters.

Mr. Plow 11-29-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15981275)
The problem with Braun is that he will disappear completely when it actually matters.

I really want to be on the Braun bandwagon. I've wanted him to be a good/great player since I first saw him - but like you said, he disappears when he's needed. I'm hoping that the improvement we're seeing this year is a permanent thing.

Now McCormack on the other hand.....

BWillie 11-29-2021 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15981275)
The problem with Braun is that he will disappear completely when it actually matters.

Possibly. I still think he will struggle finishing versus taller & more elite athletes that we will see in Big 12 play but he looks much improved. Staff said before season Braun was most improved player, so it tracks.

Lzen 11-29-2021 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15981325)
Possibly. I still think he will struggle finishing versus taller & more elite athletes that we will see in Big 12 play but he looks much improved. Staff said before season Braun was most improved player, so it tracks.

One of the main things I have seen with him is a better effort than some other guys.

And whoever mentioned McCormack is correct. WTH, Dave? Get your head straight!

KC_Connection 11-29-2021 12:20 PM

Braun has played well (for the most part) so far. Certainly has earned his minutes. He's had stretches like this before though and always reverted back to his old self when it really matters. We'll see come January.

Pants 11-29-2021 12:21 PM

We're down to #8 in the AP poll.

Duke is the new #1, obviously.

KC_Connection 11-29-2021 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pants (Post 15981555)
We're down to #8 in the AP poll.

Duke is the new #1, obviously.

Lucky it is even that high after losing to a team like Dayton in that fashion.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-29-2021 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 15981560)
Lucky it is even that high after losing to a team like Dayton in that fashion.

In that fashion? It took a buzzer-beating prayer.

Dayton is a talented team. They’re young and inconsistent, so they took some early losses to weak teams, but they played very well in that tourney.

Let’s not forget that Dayton was one seed material just two years ago. Good coach and solid program.

KC_Connection 11-29-2021 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15981584)
In that fashion? It took a buzzer-beating prayer.

Dayton is a talented team. They’re young and inconsistent, so they took some early losses to weak teams, but they played very well in that tourney.

Let’s not forget that Dayton was one seed material just two years ago. Good coach and solid program.

Yes, in that fashion. KU should have won that game by 20+ points and blew it with a complete lack of effort/intensity.

Dayton had lost to UMass Lowell, Lipscomb, and Austin Peay heading into that game. Now they're likely better than that, but that team is pretty unlikely to be in the tournament.

BWillie 11-29-2021 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15981584)
In that fashion? It took a buzzer-beating prayer.

Dayton is a talented team. They’re young and inconsistent, so they took some early losses to weak teams, but they played very well in that tourney.

Let’s not forget that Dayton was one seed material just two years ago. Good coach and solid program.

I watched all of those Dayton games since I am down here at the ESPN Events Invitational and they looked like a good team. I have no idea how they lose those games early to the patsies. They have a Top 20 recruiting class...and then some talented transfers if I believe. They are better than their Kenpom rating currently which isn't very accurate yet this time of year. That's no 2017 TCU.

RaidersOftheCellar 11-29-2021 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15982481)
I watched all of those Dayton games since I am down here at the ESPN Events Invitational and they looked like a good team. I have no idea how they lose those games early to the patsies. They have a Top 20 recruiting class...and then some talented transfers if I believe. They are better than their Kenpom rating currently which isn't very accurate yet this time of year. That's no 2017 TCU.

Yep. Still a game that KU should have won, especially after jumping out to a big lead, but shit happens. If it had been an important game, I have no doubt that KU would have maintained their intensity and won by double digits.

RustShack 11-29-2021 08:45 PM

Iowa State up to #19.

6-0 isn’t too bad after only two wins all of last year. Last week beating #25 Xavier and #9 Memphis was pretty impressive.

BWillie 11-29-2021 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 15982603)
Yep. Still a game that KU should have won, especially after jumping out to a big lead, but shit happens. If it had been an important game, I have no doubt that KU would have maintained their intensity and won by double digits.

Agreed.

BWillie 11-29-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15982687)
Iowa State up to #19.

6-0 isn’t too bad after only two wins all of last year. Last week beating #25 Xavier and #9 Memphis was pretty impressive.

Much improved but have too many inefficient scorers to be a threat. Still won't finish in top half of Big 12. I'll bet money on it.

BWillie 11-29-2021 09:22 PM

Please please play this the next time KState comes to Allen Fieldhouse for Brucie

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/fj_z6zGQVyM" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture" allowfullscreen></iframe>

cmh6476 11-30-2021 12:37 PM

I see the Jayhawks are playing in the Battle 4 Atlantis over Thanksgiving next year. I may end up spending the holiday weekend in Paradise Island PBJ

cmh6476 12-02-2021 11:36 AM

I have two tickets, section 122 row 22 for the dec 7 game at the T-Mobile center I'd let someone have for $100 for the pair if interested.

BWillie 12-02-2021 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476 (Post 15986278)
I have two tickets, section 122 row 22 for the dec 7 game at the T-Mobile center I'd let someone have for $100 for the pair if interested.

Is it lower level?

cmh6476 12-02-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15986322)
Is it lower level?

Yes, came with my ku season tickets. I just have a prior commitment.

PHOG 12-03-2021 05:44 PM

6 0'Clock, ready to RCJ....SJ

Stewie 12-03-2021 05:48 PM

Mark Turgeon stepped down as Maryland's head coach today. Danny Manning is interim head coach.

RustShack 12-03-2021 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15982751)
Much improved but have too many inefficient scorers to be a threat. Still won't finish in top half of Big 12. I'll bet money on it.

I’m definitely not expecting to win the Big12, or be in the top 3. But finishing somewhere in the middle seems a lot more realistic than it did even just a few weeks ago. Should be a fun season either way, with a promising future. We’ll see how the next few games against Creighton and Iowa go. Going into the season the NIT seemed like a pipe dream, hopefully it’s our floor now.

Pablo 12-03-2021 06:09 PM

Well that’s a very nice start

PHOG 12-03-2021 06:31 PM

Getting sloppy.

PHOG 12-03-2021 07:34 PM

Letting them hang around.

Red Dawg 12-03-2021 07:37 PM

Defense is bad on perimeter. To many 3s open.

Red Dawg 12-03-2021 07:41 PM

Danny Manning now the HC at Maryland.

Red Dawg 12-03-2021 07:44 PM

KU picking up the intensity.

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 07:44 PM

Fat bald middle aged KU fan sitting in the front row on the baseline is absolutely a Chiefs fan too

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 07:45 PM

Agbaji is looking like an AA

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 07:46 PM

Oof Harris

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 07:48 PM

Harris, Adams, and McCormack on the court at the same time is a bad look. Those were some really awkward offensive possessions.

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 07:49 PM

Braun wanted another tech lol

DanBecky 12-03-2021 07:49 PM

Braun looks to of taken that next step.

Red Dawg 12-03-2021 08:00 PM

That kid can ball baby!

PHOG 12-03-2021 08:07 PM

Braun playing much more decisively this year, so far.

BWillie 12-03-2021 09:52 PM

Braun stuffing the stat sheet. What got into this guy? He's learned how to finish at the basket and everything.

Chiefspants 12-03-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15989113)
Braun stuffing the stat sheet. What got into this guy? He's learned how to finish at the basket and everything.

He found Chiefsplanet and got hurt after reading KCC's posts, probably.

Pablo 12-03-2021 10:01 PM

When Ochai and Braun are both on this team cannot be stopped

KC_Connection 12-03-2021 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15989113)
Braun stuffing the stat sheet. What got into this guy? He's learned how to finish at the basket and everything.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Christian Braun had 40 2s in 29 D-I games last year.<br><br>He has 38 2s in 7 games this year.</p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1466960024945704960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is a pretty crazy stat.

smithandrew051 12-03-2021 10:49 PM

Braun is definitely attacking the basket more and finishing well on drives. He’s had a couple of really nice and-1’s that we didn’t see in previous years.

I was nervous that he was turning into more Brannen Greene than Svi Mykhaiuluk. He seems to have reversed course though. Hope he keeps it up.

BigRedChief 12-04-2021 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 15989008)
Braun playing much more decisively this year, so far.

after 2 years of shit play……he’s basically a 1 and done player if he keeps this level of play up. Better late than never. :hmmm:

Lzen 12-04-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15989223)
after 2 years of shit play……he’s basically a 1 and done player if he keeps this level of play up. Better late than never. :hmmm:

Wtf are you talking about? Shit play for 2 years? Nonsense He was good as a freshman. I think some of you guys have way too high of expectations for some of these players. Not all recruits are one and done talents. I'm pretty sure Braun did make the all freshman team, if memory serves. Last year I think he just hit the dreaded sophomore slump. He's playing better than ever this year

ROYC75 12-07-2021 06:05 PM

Anybody have a stream for tonight's game vs UTEP?

smithandrew051 12-07-2021 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15997583)
Anybody have a stream for tonight's game vs UTEP?

FaceTime me during the game and I will point my phone at the TV

RustShack 12-07-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15997583)
Anybody have a stream for tonight's game vs UTEP?

Use your ESPN+ free trial yet? Or just pay the small monthly payment? I guess I don’t know how many of your games are on there, a decent amount of our Non cons have been so far. I still have the Disney/Hulu/ESPN bundle though.

Bearcat 12-07-2021 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15997590)
Use your ESPN+ free trial yet? Or just pay the small monthly payment? I guess I don’t know how many of your games are on there, a decent amount of our Non cons have been so far. I still have the Disney/Hulu/ESPN bundle though.

I believe all of them not on national TV so far have been on ESPN+... maybe not Stony Brook, didn't catch that one.

It's a pretty good deal unless I guess you're only using it for the lesser non-conference games that aren't on national TV...... granted, I didn't sign up for it until they started carrying the NHL this season.

RustShack 12-07-2021 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 15997597)
I believe all of them not on national TV so far have been on ESPN+... maybe not Stony Brook, didn't catch that one.

It's a pretty good deal unless I guess you're only using it for the lesser non-conference games that aren't on national TV...... granted, I didn't sign up for it until they started carrying the NHL this season.

I know the Iowa State @ Kansas game is on ESPN + lol

Probably wouldn’t be had there been any thought of Iowa State being 8-0 and ranked after winning two games all of last year(0-18 in conference). Complete overhaul of coaching staff and roster.


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