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The Franchise 02-25-2018 10:18 PM

I’d be looking at the Colts. Switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3 should have some players looking for new homes.

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13438302)
If they cut a safety or two, I wonder if earl Thomas would be up for trade?

I don't think we'd be interested, nor would he be in us. I think he wants to play back at home and I don't think the Chiefs want two guys at safety making mega dollars.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13438316)
I’d be looking at the Colts. Switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3 should have some players looking for new homes.

This is more realistic.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13438316)
I’d be looking at the Colts. Switching from the 3-4 to the 4-3 should have some players looking for new homes.

Yeah but their defense sucks.

Could any of their players actually help?

I suppose depth might be in play.

The Franchise 02-25-2018 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13438320)
Yeah but their defense sucks.

Doesn’t mean we can’t find some decent depth players. It’s not like their coaches know how to do anything right.

DaneMcCloud 02-25-2018 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13438324)
Doesn’t mean we can’t find some decent depth players. It’s not like their coaches know how to do anything right.

Yeah, I edited my post. :D

O.city 02-25-2018 10:24 PM

If the Seahawks are going rebuild I’d be interested in a. Linebacker or two

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13438320)
Yeah but their defense sucks.

Could any of their players actually help?

I suppose depth might be in play.

Jabaal Sheard had a great year but I'm not sure if they will shop him. I don't think he fits well in a 4-3.

O.city 02-25-2018 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438333)
Jabaal Sheard had a great year but I'm not sure if they will shop him. I don't think he fits well in a 4-3.

He’d be a nice fit in KC

BossChief 02-25-2018 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438333)
Jabaal Sheard had a great year but I'm not sure if they will shop him. I don't think he fits well in a 4-3.

You fool...how can he cover Antonio Brown.

But yeah, I’d be on board.

Titty Meat 02-25-2018 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13438048)
Johnson will require a huge guaranteed portion and at 28, he’ll be on the wrong side of 30 when the Chiefs are ready to contend.

Murphy tore an ACL won’t be ready to work out for teams until after the season begins.

Correct which means Murphy will likely come cheap on a prove it deal. He's exactly the kind of talent I would love to have on this roster.

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 10:57 PM

Margus Hunt could be a decent, cheap pick up. Hankins would be a great grab, but I think he would translate well in a scheme change. Henry Anderson was solid and I think is a FA.

Mother****erJones 02-25-2018 11:01 PM

Maybe a Justin Ellis to play NT?

O.city 02-25-2018 11:08 PM

Snacks Harrison anyone?

Titty Meat 02-25-2018 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438384)
Margus Hunt could be a decent, cheap pick up. Hankins would be a great grab, but I think he would translate well in a scheme change. Henry Anderson was solid and I think is a FA.

Regarding Hunt: mehhh we already have a look like Tarzan plays like Jane guy. His name is Allen Bailey.

Titty Meat 02-25-2018 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13438411)
Snacks Harrison anyone?

Would.

O.city 02-25-2018 11:10 PM

I’m guessing he’s not for trade but he’d be nice here inside

They really need another pass rusher.

staylor26 02-25-2018 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13438416)
I’m guessing he’s not for trade but he’d be nice here inside

They really need another pass rusher.

And I think we’re more likely to find an interior pass rusher this offseason given what will be available in free agency and the draft.

That’s why I love guys like Taven Bryan, Harrison Phillips, and Tim Settle in the 2nd.

They’ll all give us more pass rush than anybody outside of Jones on the roster.

BryanBusby 02-25-2018 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13438412)
Regarding Hunt: mehhh we already have a look like Tarzan plays like Jane guy. His name is Allen Bailey.

Hunt would be at around a 6th of the price Bailey is.

mcaj22 02-25-2018 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13438411)
Snacks Harrison anyone?

did he get cut? isnt he the Giants only good player on defense besides Collins?

Titty Meat 02-26-2018 01:09 AM

Kenny Veracuro sp? Is on his way out in New Orleans. Always injured like Tyvone Branch but I would take him for a year or 2.

Titty Meat 02-26-2018 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438420)
Hunt would be at around a 6th of the price Bailey is.

I see your point production for cheaper but IMO we need a guy who will produce more. D-line was a weakness last year.

Rausch 02-26-2018 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13438416)
I’m guessing he’s not for trade but he’d be nice here inside

They really need another pass rusher.

I have no proof but I feel like our new GM values loading the front 7...

Coogs 02-26-2018 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13438487)
I have no proof but I feel like our new GM values loading the front 7...

I sure hope so. If you look at the past several Super Bowl winners, one stat that jumps out is that all of them had top notch rushing defenses. I know it's the era of the pass, but being able to stop the run really limits the other team. Especially in short yardage situations and in the red zone.

nychief 02-26-2018 06:45 AM

If we are talking about vet scrubs who will be on the market.... the Jets are going to release mo wilkerson...

Couch-Potato 02-26-2018 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13438419)
And I think we’re more likely to find an interior pass rusher this offseason given what will be available in free agency and the draft.

That’s why I love guys like Taven Bryan, Harrison Phillips, and Tim Settle in the 2nd.

They’ll all give us more pass rush than anybody outside of Jones on the roster.

Will Phillips go that high? a second?

Couch-Potato 02-26-2018 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13438100)
The Texas punter is a stud.

Agreed, how high does he go in the draft?

Couch-Potato 02-26-2018 08:14 AM

Like others here, would love to see us nab Norwell + some low cost prove-it deals for guys with high upside. We need a somewhat splashy pick up after losing Peters.

RunKC 02-26-2018 08:59 AM

Updated: I think the Chiefs should make the following players top priority in FA to fix the defense:

Shamar Stephen DL
Just turned 27 yesterday. He’s 6’5” 310 lbs and is an above average run defender. We desperately need size and strength up front to help stop the run. This is the highest priority on the list because you will be hard pressed to find a guy with this size and strength ready to play immediately in the draft.

Kenny Vacarro S
Safety is a disaster right now and this guy would go a long way towards fixing it.

Justin Ellis NT
Can’t rely on the draft to get good production here in 2018. This guy will eat up blockers.

Mike Pennel NT
This guy would be an amazing get, but it’s hard to see him being available with the Jets having so much money.

Christian Jones ILB
Fast coverage ILB who is only 27. Really good fit for the nickel. I think he’d make a big impact there.

TRR 02-26-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13438606)
Updated: I think the Chiefs should make the following players top priority in FA to fix the defense:

Shamar Stephen DL
Just turned 27 yesterday. He’s 6’5” 310 lbs and is an above average run defender. We desperately need size and strength up front to help stop the run. This is the highest priority on the list because you will be hard pressed to find a guy with this size and strength ready to play immediately in the draft.

Kenny Vacarro S
Safety is a disaster right now and this guy would go a long way towards fixing it.

Justin Ellis NT
Can’t rely on the draft to get good production here in 2018. This guy will eat up blockers.

Christian Jones ILB
Fast ILB who is only 17. Really good fit for the nickel.

At only 17, I’m concerned Jones won’t be able to hold up for a full season coming right out of high school.

booger 02-26-2018 09:27 AM

I think it was rotoworld mentioned Sheard will move to DE from 34 OLB with the colts scheme change. He did both in New England. John Simon however is more of a pure 34 OLB imo. With last years player for player swap with Seattle and the lbs and the Smith trade including Fuller it’s obvious Veech is comfortable exploring those deals which is great and saves draft capital. Say a Nelson or Murray swap for Simon as just an example but I think he would help depth wise. He’s got a motor and a good special teamer. I think at only 25 OLB Aaron Lynch is worth a long look because his play slipped when he moved to DE with the 49ers switch to the 4-3. A prove it contract would be tempting with the 6’6 270 lynch. A guy I liked coming out of Utah is Raiders S Keith McGill. Kind of a tweener he could be worth a one year deal to see if he can carve out a backup role and possible match up player in sub sets depending on opponent. Nothing gung ho but just some thoughts. Simon and McGill are both 28 I believe

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 09:37 AM

Sheard was a lot less impressive playing in the Pats flex system the prior year vs the Colts 3-4 in '17. That's why I think they could possibly make him available.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 09:41 AM

The Charlotte Observer's Joe Person believes it is "highly doubtful" the Panthers re-sign impending free agent OG Andrew Norwell.

Person believes GM Marty Hurney made his decision on Norwell when he signed fellow OG Trai Turner to a four-year, $45 million extension last year. Carolina probably does not want even more money invested in the guard position, making it likely they let Norwell walk. Easily the best interior lineman available, Norwell will be looking for something close to the five-year, $60 million deal Kevin Zeitler landed last spring.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 09:43 AM

I think he's going to barely eclipse what Zeitler got a year ago.

5yr/62.5m, 12.5 avg

booger 02-26-2018 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438645)
Sheard was a lot less impressive playing in the Pats flex system the prior year vs the Colts 3-4 in '17. That's why I think they could possibly make him available.

I would be for that. He would be a nice addition. I just remember reading a rotoworld snippet that they were leaning to keeping him.

nychief 02-26-2018 09:48 AM

The ny papers have norwell being pursued by the giants because their new GM originally signed him.

booger 02-26-2018 09:49 AM

KC did also sign DT T.Y. McGill to a futures deal recently. Pretty young still and has a handful of sacks in limited roles. Nothing fancy but a good futures min deal

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booger (Post 13438664)
I would be for that. He would be a nice addition. I just remember reading a rotoworld snippet that they were leaning to keeping him.

I don't have any inside info, so hell they might. I just don't think it would be the best move for the Colts and his best value for them would be in a trade.

booger 02-26-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438685)
I don't have any inside info, so hell they might. I just don't think it would be the best move for the Colts and his best value for them would be in a trade.

Ballard sure isn’t afraid to wheel and deal so it will definitely be worth keeping tabs on

Mother****erJones 02-26-2018 09:59 AM

I think you have to look at FAs that are under 28 years old. The direction of this team all but shows that outright

staylor26 02-26-2018 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13438711)
I think you have to look at FAs that are under 28 years old. The direction of this team all but shows that outright

This.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 13438711)
I think you have to look at FAs that are under 28 years old. The direction of this team all but shows that outright

Just because the plan is to go younger doesn't mean they won't look at some older guys for a short-term patch.

Titty Meat 02-26-2018 03:37 PM

Kurt Coleman has been released. Yes please.

KCrockaholic 02-26-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13439881)
Kurt Coleman has been released. Yes please.

Shouldn't have let him go the first time.

BryanBusby 02-26-2018 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13439881)
Kurt Coleman has been released. Yes please.

Second.

Falcons will be releasing Andy Levitre, too.

Urc Burry 02-26-2018 03:45 PM

Demps, Coleman, and TJ Ward will all be free agents. With the release of Parker you have to think one of them will land here

O.city 02-26-2018 03:46 PM

Those guys are old. Unless they're cheap, no thanks.

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:05 PM

**** that. If we’re going to sign a safety it should be Joyner, Vaccaro, or Boston.

Boston is a little under the radar, but he’s only 25 and an above average safety that we can probably get for decent price. He’s like a younger version of Ron Parker, and would be a nice replacement.

O.city 02-26-2018 05:18 PM

Yeah, I'd much rather have one of those guys. **** the old dudes.

I'm still banging the Avery Williamson drum. He'd be a potential stud at MLB next to Ragland.

Mother****erJones 02-26-2018 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13438786)
Just because the plan is to go younger doesn't mean they won't look at some older guys for a short-term patch.

No but I don’t think they’ll break the bank for any

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13440283)
Yeah, I'd much rather have one of those guys. **** the old dudes.

I'm still banging the Avery Williamson drum. He'd be a potential stud at MLB next to Ragland.

Yea Williamson, Zach Brown and Nigel Bradham would be the ILB’s I would consider.

RunKC 02-26-2018 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440292)
Yea Williamson, Zach Brown and Nigel Bradham would be the ILB’s I would consider.

Christian Jones

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13440295)
Christian Jones

I knew I was forgetting somebody.

O.city 02-26-2018 05:26 PM

Brown is a little oldish for my taste.

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13440300)
Brown is a little oldish for my taste.

Yea not ideal, but since he’s a LB I think he has a few more years in him. I’d give him a short term deal.

Chief Northman 02-26-2018 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13440295)
Christian Jones

As a blitzing thumper SILB maybe. Not at WILB....

O.city 02-26-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440310)
Yea not ideal, but since he’s a LB I think he has a few more years in him. I’d give him a short term deal.

Theres a smallish ILB prospect in the draft whose name escapes me that I hope we look at late in the draft

The Franchise 02-26-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13440283)
Yeah, I'd much rather have one of those guys. **** the old dudes.

I'm still banging the Avery Williamson drum. He'd be a potential stud at MLB next to Ragland.

Jones or Williamson......I'm happy with either one.

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13440313)
As a blitzing thumper SILB maybe. Not at WILB....

No. Jones is at his best as a LB in subs.

The Bad Guy 02-26-2018 05:35 PM

I think McPhee could be a very good signing. I'm all in on Eric Reid. I think he'd be perfect in the dime LB package.

O.city 02-26-2018 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13440319)
I think McPhee could be a very good signing. I'm all in on Eric Reid. I think he'd be perfect in the dime LB package.

Think that may be a tough sell with the whole anthem thing?

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:37 PM

I have a feeling we will be making a lot of moves. And I would definitely expect some Ragland/Erving type of trades too. At least 1 or 2.

O.city 02-26-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440326)
I have a feeling we will be making a lot of moves. And I would definitely expect some Ragland/Erving type of trades too. At least 1 or 2.

I was kind of looking around at that last night.

Wonder who they might target?

staylor26 02-26-2018 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13440331)
I was kind of looking around at that last night.

Wonder who they might target?

I can’t really think of anybody off the top of my head, but I’m going to start looking.

The Franchise 02-26-2018 05:49 PM

Su'a Cravens?

Chief Northman 02-26-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 13440319)
I think McPhee could be a very good signing. I'm all in on Eric Reid. I think he'd be perfect in the dime LB package.

Reid is an anthem kneeler.

No dice.

Titty Meat 02-26-2018 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13439920)
Those guys are old. Unless they're cheap, no thanks.

No. Coleman is 28 or 29.

Chief Roundup 02-26-2018 06:36 PM

How can Vontae Davis sign a contract with the Bills?

staylor26 02-26-2018 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13440490)
How can Vontae Davis sign a contract with the Bills?

Umm he was cut.

Chiefsguyinri 02-26-2018 06:38 PM

Cut:
Hali, Bailey, Sorenson, Harris

Resign:
Wilson, Sherman, KPL

Sign:
Fuller, Hitchens, Mccown, Burton, Norwell

Draft:
Arden Key, Justin Reid, Tim Settle, Tarvarus McFadden, Riley Ferguson,

Will need some depth but this is who I would like to get

The Franchise 02-26-2018 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13440490)
How can Vontae Davis sign a contract with the Bills?

He was cut.

Chief Roundup 02-26-2018 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440495)
Umm he was cut.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13440500)
He was cut.

I thought we were in the dead period where teams were not allowed to sign FA until March 14th.
I guess all this tampering or not issues has gotten me twisted.

Iconic 02-26-2018 06:44 PM

Gaines on a prove it deal because of his injuries would be a steal. Obviously if his vagina doesn't continue to bleed.

He's from MO too so Clarks vagina shouldn't bleed either.

staylor26 02-26-2018 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13440504)
I thought we were in the dead period where teams were not allowed to sign FA until March 14th.
I guess all this tampering or not issues has gotten me twisted.

Or you just don’t know the difference between somebody that’s about to be an UFA when the new league year begins and somebody that already is a few agent because their contract has been terminated lol

Sassy Squatch 02-26-2018 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13440504)
I thought we were in the dead period where teams were not allowed to sign FA until March 14th.
I guess all this tampering or not issues has gotten me twisted.

Teams are allowed to sign free agents whenever. Most of the players don't become free agents until March 14th.

booger 02-26-2018 07:11 PM

Kony Ealy only had one sack with the jets last year but did have 9 pass breakups. In the same boat as a Aaron Lynch as a young pass rusher who has under performed but still worth looking into with pass rushers in high demand it would be great to get one on a prove it deal. Just looking at some bargains as well for free agency

DaNewGuy 02-26-2018 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 65TPT (Post 13429856)
Keep Wilson trade Conley

I think he's on to something guys

O.city 02-26-2018 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440336)
I can’t really think of anybody off the top of my head, but I’m going to start looking.

Maybe one of the d ends from San Fran they don’t wanna pay . Armstead maube?

staylor26 02-26-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13440713)
Maybe one of the d ends from San Fran they don’t wanna pay . Armstead maube?

Ahh I shit you not Armstead is a guy that came to mind last time I was brainstorming for guys like that. I’d be all over it.

O.city 02-26-2018 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440726)
Ahh I shit you not Armstead is a guy that came to mind last time I was brainstorming for guys like that. I’d be all over it.

Also wonder about big name guys who teams don’t wanna keep paying that they’d eat some of the deal to get rid of.

McCoy from Tampa etc

O.city 02-26-2018 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13440726)
Ahh I shit you not Armstead is a guy that came to mind last time I was brainstorming for guys like that. I’d be all over it.

Who's the other big DE they drafted in back to back years?


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