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Pasta Little Brioni 06-03-2017 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12900415)
If the Chiefs feel this way then I don't know why they'd sign Bennie Logan to a one year, $8M deal.

Worry about your own shit team, turd

Pasta Little Brioni 06-03-2017 12:33 PM

But did we keep Marlin?

Chief Pagan 06-03-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12899258)
Alex Smith doesnt need a #1 WR

I hear that Alex Smith can throw and catch it too!

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-03-2017 12:37 PM

When you can cut talent like Maclin you know your team is awesome.

notorious 06-03-2017 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12900413)
He thinks we're bunkering $$$ for next year when 2PM might play...

I don't see why this is a bad thing.


Maclin simply wasn't playing up to his contract. It's pretty simple.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-03-2017 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12900426)
I don't see why this is a bad thing.


Maclin simply wasn't playing up to his contract. It's pretty simple.

That and he probably looked rough at the voluntary OTA

jspchief 06-03-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12900426)
I don't see why this is a bad thing.


Maclin simply wasn't playing up to his contract. It's pretty simple.

Bunkering money isn't a bad thing. But this move isn't about that. It's about finding money to pay current bills, not go on a shopping spree next year.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12900415)
If the Chiefs feel this way then I don't know why they'd sign Bennie Logan to a one year, $8M deal.

Don't get me wrong--I don't think the Chiefs are expecting to lose and rebuild this year. But I think the FO made it clear how they feel about their current SB odds when they made the move for Mahomes.

Next offseason, Alex is gone. DJ and Hali likely are too. That represents a completely new era. The Mahomes era. This season will still likely field a 9-11 win team, but Reid and Dorsey know that this is just the swan song season of this most recent era. 2013-2017 was largely led by Smith, Charles, Maclin, Poe, DJ, Hali, Houston, Berry, and a bit of Kelce...

2018 and beyond will be led by Mahomes, Hill, Kelce, Peters, Houston, Jones, Ford, Berry, and the current secured OL.

ChiefGator 06-03-2017 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 12900188)
Yep

Plus the Star says we're still over the cap for next year even after his release. Dorsey is awful at managing the cap.

After we cut Maclin (just did), Smith, and Hali, we will have close to 30 million in cap space next year. And there are a few other candidates, like Allen Bailey, etc,.

We are fine.

LoneWolf 06-03-2017 12:50 PM

All I need to know to validate my opinion that releasing Maclin was a good decision is the fact that Rausch and Whitlock don't like it.

Rausch 06-03-2017 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 12900438)
All I need to know to validate my opinion that releasing Marlin was a good decision is the fact that Rausch and Whitlock don't like it.

My 9th Grand-kid is getting baptized this week.

You mother****er.

Now I'm down 1...

Hoover 06-03-2017 01:00 PM

I think this is a postive thing as it forces us to really know what we have in our young WRs. If there is one position group that we have struggled with as a franchise it's WR. Give these young guys an huge opportunity and see who emerges.

Red Beans 06-03-2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12900403)
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Well if this doesn't validate the move, I don't know what does.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 01:11 PM

Just my opinion, but even before this move I was on record saying that the Chiefs best Super Bowl window will likely come between 2018-2020 with Mahomes on a cheap contract. This move just reinforces the idea that the FO feels the same way.

They are going to make the remaining cuts next offseason to launch us into the Mahomes era (Smith, Hali, DJ, etc). Use the cap room to extend the young guys who you want around to help lead in the Mahomes era (Peters, Ford, Hill, etc). Use a little bit of the cap room to sign the few FAs who might get your roster over the hump, much like Seattle and Denver did before their SB runs.

Dorsey and Reid know what many of us on here have already known as well-- it's all about what is best for the Mahomes era now.

Otter 06-03-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900448)
Dorsey and Reid know what many of us on here have already known as well-- it's all about what is best for the Mahomes era now.

It's about ****ing time!

Now if he would just tighten up that haircut. Hippie! :D

BlackOp 06-03-2017 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 12900442)
I think this is a postive thing as it forces us to really know what we have in our young WRs. If there is one position group that we have struggled with as a franchise it's WR. Give these young guys an huge opportunity and see who emerges.

There might be some truth to this...it's hard to bench a veteran $10m WR that's underachieving. He was their FA prize two years ago. What ever was Maclin's issue last year, they obviously felt they could get similar production on the cheap going forward. He was brought in to offset Bowe's departure. I guess it played it's course. Hill made him expendable.

They must like what they are seeing out of Robinson in OTAs.

It's a very shrewd move..similar to how the Patriots roll. Most teams cut declining players a year too late or wont admit to a contractual mistake. The are gambling on the young WRs to step-up.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-03-2017 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12900155)
That's such bullshit. Cassel made stupid plays that exposed how bad he was at football. Whether you think he's too safe or not, the mere fact that Alex doesn't try the reeruned shit Cassel did and does makes him better.

The fact that Alex doesn't doink hail marys off the goal post, or throw a flea flicker into a lineman's back is not a mark against him.

At least Cassel's reeruned shit was funny and entertaining. Smith's is just infuriating.
Oh well, at least they will BOTH be members of the has-been garbage pile.

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 12900160)
Good God you Alex Smith haters hate of Alex Smith is borderline obsession. You blame him for everything that is wrong with the Chiefs. Let it go already.

- Chiefs have a good record with Alex Smith as their QB - doesn't matter wins and losses are a team accomplishment
-Chiefs lose to the Colts in the playoffs despite scoring 44 pts - we lost because of Alex Smith
-Chiefs run D gives up a lot of yds to the Steelers in a playoff gm - Alex Smiths fault
- Maclin gets cut - Alex Smiths fault
- Your wife cheats on you - Alex Smiths fault



Let me guess the crisis with North Korea is Alex Smith's fault too?

ROFL Thank god this putrid episode of Chiefs football will soon be history. I can only hope that 2PM educates a bunch of sorely lacking knob-gobblers about what it means to have your very own QB that can do more than check-down, stare-down, and be dragged to victory by a team whose individual players possess more talent in their urine specimen than the QB ever will.

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Originally Posted by Black Bob (Post 12900175)
Alex wins and I like that. We will win at least one playoff game without Maclin and a big part of the reason why will be Alex. He's been a good QB for KC. Don't over complicate it. I don't think he can win a Super Bowl but, I don't have a problem with him being our QB for another year or two.

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Thank you KnowMo! This is indeed great news if true!

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900406)
So I take it Fatlock hasn't realized that the Chiefs never had much of a chance at a SB this year?

Nah, he just mad cuz' his homie got shafted by The Man.
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Pablo 06-03-2017 01:26 PM

Well, he was no Dwayne Bowe, but I guess he had a few moments that were big for us.

Nah, can't really think of any of those. Maybe they'll come to me.

notorious 06-03-2017 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 12900467)
Well, he was no Dwayne Bowe, but I guess he had a few moments that were big for us.

Nah, can't really think of any of those. Maybe they'll come to me.

There was that one catch that helped the Chiefs beat Pittsb.....well, I guess not.

Bewbies 06-03-2017 01:28 PM

The only shot we had at a Super Bowl this year involved lots of horrific QB injuries, so I'm not thinking this changes our season all that much.

I hope he's done, cause I enjoyed watching him when he was on the field once in awhile. If he has a great year somewhere sadface.

Red Dawg 06-03-2017 01:28 PM

We don't need Maclin and his 12 mill, it's that simple. We have youth at WR that need to play if for nothing else so that in 18 they know what they are doing when Mahomes starts.

Maclin is hardly worth his pay in this offense. Smith makes it look even worse paying his salary.

Hammock Parties 06-03-2017 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12900471)
We have youth at WR that need to play if for nothing else so that in 18 they know what they are doing when Mahomes starts.

Great point.

The sacrifices we make now will pay huge dividends for Mahomes in '18.

2017 is a 16-game preseason. Get those reps in, boys. You're all competing for starting jobs in 2018.

BlackOp 06-03-2017 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12900463)
At least Cassel's reeruned shit was funny and entertaining. Smith's is just infuriating.

No...Cassel was horribly inaccurate. He was most certainly NOT entertaining.

Tribal Warfare 06-03-2017 01:36 PM

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/article154218699.html

Hammock Parties 06-03-2017 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 12900479)
Alex Smith says he is ‘shocked’ by Jeremy Maclin’s release

http://i.imgur.com/PHXVQfe.gif

Suck it Smith. Maclin won't miss this:

http://i.imgur.com/dpwdMKT.gif

http://i.imgur.com/gxVV4Cu.jpg

Pablo 06-03-2017 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12900468)
There was that one catch that helped the Chiefs beat Pittsb.....well, I guess not.

Yeah, I can almost recall that one. That was classic Marlin.

Skyy God 06-03-2017 01:50 PM

Wonder if the Chiefs kick the tires on Boldin....

penbrook 06-03-2017 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 12900500)
Wonder if the Chiefs kick the tires on Boldin....

He put up 584 yards receiving and 8 TDs last year. He is a perfect red zone target

Hammock Parties 06-03-2017 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 12900500)
Wonder if the Chiefs kick the tires on Boldin....

You want to put a Dwayne Bowe clone in an offense with Alex Smith, who needs 5 yards of separation to throw a ball?

Yeah that'll work...

The Chiefs need to roll with these young guys, let them sweat it out for 16 games and see who's standing at the end. Then they can determine if they want to draft a receiver in 2018 to pair with Mahomes or not.

lewdog 06-03-2017 02:00 PM

600 posts....

Was Maclin good or shitty?

threebag 06-03-2017 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12899249)
So either he looked like crap on the field or he did something shady

Think he smacked a bitch?

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12900515)
You want to put a Dwayne Bowe clone in an offense with Alex Smith, who needs 5 yards of separation to throw a ball?

Yeah that'll work...

The Chiefs need to roll with these young guys, let them sweat it out for 16 games and see who's standing at the end. Then they can determine if they want to draft a receiver in 2018 to pair with Mahomes or not.

Clay is right. Hill, Conley, Chesson, and Robinson are all under contract for 2018. They need game reps in order to make the Mahomes transition that much cleaner.

The jury is out on Robinson and Chesson, but I feel like Conley suffers from Smith. He made a lot of clutch 3rd down catches last year, usually near the sideline. No, he doesn't get a ton of separation typically, but he's also huge and can body most DBs.

By 2018, we will know for sure if our WR corp needs help or not for Mahomes. That is a good thing.

Skyy God 06-03-2017 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12900527)
600 posts....

Was Maclin good or shitty?

He's Schroediger's WR.

Skyy God 06-03-2017 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 12900515)
You want to put a Dwayne Bowe clone in an offense with Alex Smith, who needs 5 yards of separation to throw a ball?

Yeah that'll work...

The Chiefs need to roll with these young guys, let them sweat it out for 16 games and see who's standing at the end. Then they can determine if they want to draft a receiver in 2018 to pair with Mahomes or not.

I didn't say sign him.

Also, I'm sure they pick up a WR at the 53 cut downs.

Titty Meat 06-03-2017 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12900527)
600 posts....

Was Maclin good or shitty?

I'll say given the contract + the draft pick given up it turned out to be a shitty signing.

notorious 06-03-2017 02:07 PM

When does Maclin sign with Denver?

RobBlake 06-03-2017 02:11 PM

Maclin should go to atl

WhiteWhale 06-03-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12900153)
Casssel attempted to make plays that exposed how bad he was.

Smith doesn't have the balls to attempt those plays most of the time, so you can say he is safer, but you can not actually gauge if he is better.

This post makes no sense.

Trying to make plays you physically can't make exposes you.

Umm... yeah. Doing nothing is actually better than doing something incredibly stupid.

Second, Cassel, when he wasn't being stupid, was nothing but a 1 read check down guy too. He's a worse version of the same player.

Buehler445 06-03-2017 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 12899853)
The amount of Alex ranting in threads like these is why I barely even try to talk Chiefs here anymore.

MOTHER****ING This.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 02:23 PM

I know Chesson isn't likely to play much this year right now, but this guy looks legit in this video... makes plenty of wow plays. I think he was severely limited by a shit QB last year.

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HemiEd 06-03-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 12900289)
WR production often has more to do with QB than it does with WR. There aren't really that many Calvin Johnson calibre receivers out there. That's why teams like Pittsburgh, New Orleans, New England and even San Diego have managed to excel consistently for years on offense regardless of who they put on the field on the outside.

That said, this is still a bit of a head-scratcher.

Oh no you didn't mention the QB!!! You're going to get banned if DeFace sees this post.


reported :D

New World Order 06-03-2017 02:56 PM

We just need a WR that can catch screens and slants

Eleazar 06-03-2017 03:02 PM

jsp is right, we can argue about whether this hurts the team's non-existent super bowl chances for this season or about whether the team's poor cap situation made it necessary, but we can't argue about whether the Chiefs are better at WR today or not. They are worse. A player who would have been high on the depth chart was let go for nothing in return. Maybe the youngsters take over, but no one can honestly say this was addition by subtraction or any such thing.

KC_Connection 06-03-2017 03:07 PM

Never really understood acquiring him to begin with considering Alex Smith is this team's QB, so it's hardly surprising to see this.

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2017 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12900411)
I don't see where Whitlock is going with this.


Can someone explain to me, please?

He's a moron.

Maclin isn't the difference between a Super Bowl in 2017 or no Super Bowl, so it was best to get rid of him now, rollover money into 2018 and get the younger players on the field.

The Chiefs still have weapons in Kelce, Ware and Hill. They have an ascending #2 (or #3, at worst) in Conley. If Hunt is the player he was in college, the offense will be even more dynamic and it wouldn't surprise me to see Ware, who's an excellent receiver, to line up in the slot from time to time with Hunt in the backfield.

Andy Reid will scheme around the loss of Maclin, just like he did last year.

KranzDictum 06-03-2017 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 12899264)
It looks like the organization is viewing 2017 as preparation for 2018, when their new QB takes over...

This really screams to me that they dont think Alex can make it happen and dont really care about paying for weapons to support him.

Look at the draft.....and now this.

They are ****ing over it, just like everyone else..

Bye Alex..

Sure sounds like full on Rebuild Mode to me.

Did not pick up any impact FA's to make the team better, moved up to draft a QB in the top 10, now they are dumping cap.

Macklin cost you guys a draft pick because Reid CHEATED and now he is $7mill of dead space for the next 2 years.

Great moves for a single WC victory against a terrible team.

Loving this, just hope the Raiders or San Diego don't sign him.

Dunerdr 06-03-2017 03:33 PM

Sammy ****ing Watkins trade/extension here we come

Mizzou_8541 06-03-2017 03:38 PM

8 pages regarding Jeremy Maclin's release. That's impressive in and of itself.

mcaj22 06-03-2017 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 12900652)
Sammy ****ing Watkins trade/extension here we come

He would be useless with Smith but Mahomes would get the best out of him for sure.

RunKC 06-03-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900651)
Sure sounds like full on Rebuild Mode to me.

Did not pick up any impact FA's to make the team better, moved up to draft a QB in the top 10, now they are dumping cap.

Macklin cost you guys a draft pick because Reid CHEATED and now he is $7mill of dead space for the next 2 years.

Great moves for a single WC victory against a terrible team.

Loving this, just hope the Raiders or San Diego don't sign him.

Broncos signed our trash bc they can't draft. Unless Denver falls into a HOF QB again they will be looking up to Chiefs and Raiders.

KranzDictum 06-03-2017 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12900641)
He's a moron.

Maclin isn't the difference between a Super Bowl in 2017 or no Super Bowl, so it was best to get rid of him now, rollover money into 2018 and get the younger players on the field.

The Chiefs still have weapons in Kelce, Ware and Hill. They have an ascending #2 (or #3, at worst) in Conley. If Hunt is the player he was in college, the offense will be even more dynamic and it wouldn't surprise me to see Ware, who's an excellent receiver, to line up in the slot from time to time with Hunt in the backfield.

Andy Reid will scheme around the loss of Maclin, just like he did last year.

Who is going to protect reek from getting double teamed? Teams are going to have a guy hit him at the LOS then bracket him all day and take him out. There are a bunch of no named guys behind him they can match up man on man.

Ware wasn't great last year either. Still has yet to break off 1k in your system and his YPC (which kc fans loved when Charles was with you) dropped over a full yard last year, in a year where he was the featured back. Ware only had 3 TD's last year as well.

Full on rebuild mode if your hoping rookies are going to save you.

Too bad for Dorsey he can't fire Reid as well, he would be better off getting someone in who can design and call an O that has some balls.

It will get ugly if DJ and Houston cannot return to form, I think Houston has a chance but DJ is going to be a long shot with the injury he had.

New World Order 06-03-2017 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900651)
Sure sounds like full on Rebuild Mode to me.

Did not pick up any impact FA's to make the team better, moved up to draft a QB in the top 10, now they are dumping cap.

Macklin cost you guys a draft pick because Reid CHEATED and now he is $7mill of dead space for the next 2 years.

Great moves for a single WC victory against a terrible team.

Loving this, just hope the Raiders or San Diego don't sign him.


A truly moronic post

Coogs 06-03-2017 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900651)
Sure sounds like full on Rebuild Mode to me.

Did not pick up any impact FA's to make the team better, moved up to draft a QB in the top 10, now they are dumping cap.

Macklin cost you guys a draft pick because Reid CHEATED and now he is $7mill of dead space for the next 2 years.

Great moves for a single WC victory against a terrible team.

Loving this, just hope the Raiders or San Diego don't sign him.

Full on rebuild?

Offensive line... Young and all back.
TE... Young and back
RB... Same with upgrade
WR's... Pretty much same
QB... Same with upgrade

Defensive line... Solid and young
Secondary... Solid/young
LB's... Decent. Solid with/when injuries heal.

Transition would be far better word than rebuild. Transition to Mahomes from Smith.

Hammock Parties 06-03-2017 03:46 PM

I would trust this FO completely with releasing a veteran WR, BTW.

They knew Bowe was done, guessing they see the same indicators on Maclin's tape.

BlackOp 06-03-2017 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900651)
Sure sounds like full on Rebuild Mode to me.

Did not pick up any impact FA's to make the team better, moved up to draft a QB in the top 10, now they are dumping cap.

Macklin cost you guys a draft pick because Reid CHEATED and now he is $7mill of dead space for the next 2 years.

Great moves for a single WC victory against a terrible team.

Loving this, just hope the Raiders or San Diego don't sign him.

Meh...Demaryius Thomas has dropped off by 500 yards and 6 TDs from 2014.

Donkos have $21+ million invested this season in WRs that netted 10 TDs last year.

KC's 5th round pick generated more points than them combined...and had more receiving TDs than either of them in limited play.

I'm not even going to mention the fail at TE...

Enjoy the 4th place rebuild...

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900666)
Who is going to protect reek from getting double teamed? Teams are going to have a guy hit him at the LOS then bracket him all day and take him out. There are a bunch of no named guys behind him they can match up man on man.

Damn it I hate this line of thinking. It's really not that simple.

You can't double Hill AND Kelce. So if you're assuming Hill is the guy teams take away, then Kelce is going to have a lot of opportunities.

There's only so much you can scheme defensively, but at some point it's man vs. man. The better one will win typically win.

KranzDictum 06-03-2017 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12900664)
Broncos signed our trash bc they can't draft. Unless Denver falls into a HOF QB again they will be looking up to Chiefs and Raiders.

Low risk high reward. Not like John was signing guys like Quentin Griffin or Joe Mays.

kc has no depth, your old at MLB and OLB, let a top flight DT Walk, a solid DE walked, no depth there, a bunch of no names at WR after reek, one TE, one RB who hasn't broke off 1k, a QB who knows he is going to be gone in a year or 2 because they aren't going to eat his cap either.

I like the Broncos chances when compared to a team dumping vet cap space especially on a guy who cost them an extra 2nd round pick!

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2017 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900666)
Who is going to protect reek from getting double teamed? Teams are going to have a guy hit him at the LOS then bracket him all day and take him out. There are a bunch of no named guys behind him they can match up man on man.

Ware wasn't great last year either. Still has yet to break off 1k in your system and his YPC (which kc fans loved when Charles was with you) dropped over a full yard last year, in a year where he was the featured back. Ware only had 3 TD's last year as well.

Full on rebuild mode if your hoping rookies are going to save you.

Too bad for Dorsey he can't fire Reid as well, he would be better off getting someone in who can design and call an O that has some balls.

It will get ugly if DJ and Houston cannot return to form, I think Houston has a chance but DJ is going to be a long shot with the injury he had.

Dumb.

As.

****.

RunKC 06-03-2017 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900684)
Low risk high reward. Not like John was signing guys like Quentin Griffin or Joe Mays.

kc has no depth, your old at MLB and OLB, let a top flight DT Walk, a solid DE walked, no depth there, a bunch of no names at WR after reek, one TE, one RB who hasn't broke off 1k, a QB who knows he is going to be gone in a year or 2 because they aren't going to eat his cap either.

I like the Broncos chances when compared to a team dumping vet cap space especially on a guy who cost them an extra 2nd round pick!

Literally everything in this post is wrong. Try getting facts right and people will take you seriously.

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2017 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900684)
Low risk high reward. Not like John was signing guys like Quentin Griffin or Joe Mays.

kc has no depth, your old at MLB and OLB, let a top flight DT Walk, a solid DE walked, no depth there, a bunch of no names at WR after reek, one TE, one RB who hasn't broke off 1k, a QB who knows he is going to be gone in a year or 2 because they aren't going to eat his cap either.

I like the Broncos chances when compared to a team dumping vet cap space especially on a guy who cost them an extra 2nd round pick!

I truly hope that for your sake, you aren't ignorant about life as you are about football.

KranzDictum 06-03-2017 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900681)
Damn it I hate this line of thinking. It's really not that simple.

You can't double Hill AND Kelce. So if you're assuming Hill is the guy teams take away, then Kelce is going to have a lot of opportunities.

There's only so much you can scheme defensively, but at some point it's man vs. man. The better one will win typically win.

You don't watch many Pats games do you? They are known for taking the best player out of the game.

2 safeties allow a DC to bracket both guys if they want, depends on what they are showing at the LOS. It is not like kc can spread teams out and kill them with speed, they will spread teams out to get the short basketball type pass and hope for YAC but need perfect blocking to pop anything big downfield.

Plus there are going to be times where both guys will need a breather and at least one is going to be off the field.

Imagine having to face an O of 2-3 no named WR's and Kelce or reek and your backup TE. Suddenly gets very easy to double.

Now if you still had Macklin then you have DC's in trouble.

PAChiefsGuy 06-03-2017 04:00 PM

I don't like it at all. I think it is a stupid move. Our WR corps looks like a bag of s**t to me right now.

I trust Reid and Dorsey so I support this move based on that but personally it is not something I would have done.

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2017 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12900689)
Literally everything in this post is wrong. Try getting facts right and people will take you seriously.

This guy makes Knowmo look like Ron Wolf

KranzDictum 06-03-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12900698)
This guy makes Knowmo look like Ron Wolf

Enjoy rebuilding.

I heard that your top 10 QB started with the 3rd team today, but that was from Clay so it could be wrong.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12900695)
You don't watch many Pats games do you? They are known for taking the best player out of the game.

2 safeties allow a DC to bracket both guys if they want, depends on what they are showing at the LOS. It is not like kc can spread teams out and kill them with speed, they will spread teams out to get the short basketball type pass and hope for YAC but need perfect blocking to pop anything big downfield.

Plus there are going to be times where both guys will need a breather and at least one is going to be off the field.

Imagine having to face an O of 2-3 no named WR's and Kelce or reek and your backup TE. Suddenly gets very easy to double.

Now if you still had Macklin then you have DC's in trouble.

You're assuming that the rest of our WRs are terrible because they don't have a 'name'...

Bold strategy, Cotton.

RunKC 06-03-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900703)
You're assuming that the rest of our WRs are terrible because they don't have a 'name'...

Bold strategy, Cotton.

This poster is from the Mane so it's not surprising to see that he is football stupid.

notorious 06-03-2017 04:11 PM

Krammeddicksinhim will realize that Alex Smith has beat his team.....3 times in a row......twice in Denver.


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TigeRRUppeRRcut 06-03-2017 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900681)
Damn it I hate this line of thinking. It's really not that simple.

You can't double Hill AND Kelce. So if you're assuming Hill is the guy teams take away, then Kelce is going to have a lot of opportunities.

There's only so much you can scheme defensively, but at some point it's man vs. man. The better one will win typically win.

Clearly they're putting 13 on the field so they can double Hill/Kelce plus stack the box on Hunt/Ware. Clearly.

pugsnotdrugs19 06-03-2017 04:12 PM

If anyone is about to undergo a rebuild, its Denver.

Your best players are aging, but unlike the Chiefs, your most recent drafts have been buckets of ass in large part. The replacements are not in place.

notorious 06-03-2017 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12900713)
If anyone is about to undergo a rebuild, it's Denver.

Your best players are aging, but unlike the Chiefs, your most recent drafts have been buckets of ass in large part. The replacements are not in place.

Buckets of ass is giving too much credit.

Rain Man 06-03-2017 04:27 PM

Whatever Dorsey says, I support, but this is still rather shocking. Here are the receivers on the roster.

Veterans
10 Hill, Tyreek WR 5-10 185 23 2 West Alabama
17 Conley, Chris WR 6-3 205 24 3 Georgia
12 Wilson, Albert WR 5-9 200 24 4 Georgia State
13 Thomas, De'Anthony WR 5-8 176 24 4 Oregon
14 Robinson, Demarcus WR 6-1 203 22 2 Florida

Drafted rookies
80 Chesson, Jehu WR 6-3 203 23 R Michigan

Guys who will come out of nowhere to dominate the league like Kurt Warner did
4 Dieter, Gehrig WR 6-3 207 24 R Alabama
81 Jones, Seantavius WR 6-3 200 24 1 Valdosta State
7 Kemp, Marcus WR 6-4 185 R Hawaii
83 Moore, Alonzo WR 6-2 185 24 R Nebraska
85 Stevens, Tony WR 6-4 198 R Auburn

So we'll typically keep 5 or 6 receivers on the roster, which must mean that they like a camp guy or two, they like Robinson and Thomas, and/or they're planning to go out and get someone. It's possible too that these less-name guys merely represent a better value for the cap dollar, and Dorsey want to put cap dollars somewhere else.

It's a surprise, but as the coinage says, In Dorsey We Trust.

RunKC 06-03-2017 04:41 PM

I can't think of one player on Denver's offense who is above average and still on a rookie contract.

Buzz 06-03-2017 04:46 PM

He may not have had a great year, last year but I didn't see that one coming.

Quesadilla Joe 06-03-2017 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12900733)
I can't think of one player on Denver's offense who is above average and still on a rookie contract.

Paradis and Garcia. We also have three really promising young QB's and drafted a couple WR's this year that have some promise as well.

RunKC 06-03-2017 04:51 PM

Let me repeat this again Knowmo. I'll bold the important part:

I can't think of one player on Denver's offense who is above average and still on a rookie contract.

Quesadilla Joe 06-03-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12900746)
Let me repeat this again Knowmo. I'll bold the important part:

I can't think of one player on Denver's offense who is above average and still on a rookie contract.

Matt Paradis was the #1 graded center in the NFL last year LMAO

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Tombstone RJ 06-03-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12900746)
Let me repeat this again Knowmo. I'll bold the important part:

I can't think of one player on Denver's offense who is above average and still on a rookie contract.

You need to worry about kc now that Dorsey is in slash-and-burn mode with veterans due to your crappy salary cap issue.

Pablo 06-03-2017 05:19 PM

I see a Jerrod Marlin signing in Denver's future. Island of the Chiefs misfit toys out there.

Hammock Parties 06-03-2017 05:23 PM

The Chiefs current WRs have a total of 2,643 yards and 12 TD in the NFL.

DaneMcCloud 06-03-2017 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Tombstone RJ (Post 12900791)
You need to worry about kc now that Dorsey is in slash-and-burn mode with veterans due to your crappy salary cap issue.

:facepalm:


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