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lewdog 02-07-2021 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15532315)
So I will buy the house next to you when I retire

Yes! I’m a good neighbor and we can be plant friends!

displacedinMN 02-07-2021 09:20 AM

Grandpa Displaced can run the kid to activities

lewdog 03-27-2021 05:30 PM

Hong Kong Orchid. Smells Amazing

https://i.imgur.com/7TPJaNSh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5tMDXHvh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/U5FoKojh.jpg

Lime tree blossoms and buds

https://i.imgur.com/nxD2FfFh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6ODy58Wh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LTRAcrhh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9SP1Txeh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/8kPOVBEh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6K2hg22h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Z26ZMLEh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/pHVZlYqh.jpg


Wife is growing some "flower" as it's now legal here. Won't post that yet.

Stewie 03-28-2021 06:24 PM

Has anyone used Menard's version of Milorganite? It's far cheaper than the original.

displacedinMN 04-25-2021 09:42 AM

This popped up in the paper-Asian Jumping worms
 
https://www.startribune.com/jumping-...son/600049305/

In Anne Lippin's 25 years of gardening, she's never been so traumatized over a pest. "It's really demoralizing," she said, "to have an invader where I can't combat the invader."

To her great distress, Lippin received confirmation from the Minnesota DNR last summer that she had, indeed, found jumping worms in her St. Paul yard. "If you've been working on a painting for 25 years and you suddenly discover the canvas is rotting — that's what it feels like," said Lippin.

Anne Lippin in her St. Paul front yard garden. For the past few years Lippin has noticed invasive jumping worms in the garden, where they are voracious eaters, particularly of the wood chips that Lippin has used to keep weeds down.

For the past few years Lippin has noticed invasive jumping worms in the garden, where they are voracious eaters, particularly of the wood chips that Lippin has used to keep weeds down.
Also known as the "crazy worm," "Alabama jumper" and "snake worm," this wildly wiggly Asian earthworm (Amynthas spp.) that can cause soil erosion and ultimately kill plants is now reported in the Twin Cities, Rochester and possibly Duluth, as well as southeastern Minnesota and western Wisconsin.

The invasion is forcing many Minnesotans to rethink this spring's plant sales, plant swaps and green practices in general, affecting everyone from home gardeners to garden clubs to garden centers and mulch suppliers.

"It's pretty likely that they're distributed in virtually every neighborhood in the metro area," said Lee Frelich, one of the country's top forest ecologists at the University of Minnesota. Not that jumping worms are living in every square inch of soil, he explained, but "if they're in one place in a neighborhood this year, they're going to be all over the place next year."

All Pat Thompson could utter was a high-pitched "Ahhhh" when she heard the news that jumping worms have infested dozens of garden beds at the University of Minnesota, just two blocks from her house. "If [rain] water is moving the cocoons downhill from the St. Paul campus toward me, what can I do about that?" she said.

After examining the soil under ginkgo trees on campus last fall, Frelich discovered "you could just dip your hand in there and get a handful of worms."

The creatures are particularly hard to find in the springtime even for the most vigilant gardener. The "hatchling" worms are too small to identify yet, and their egg cocoons are tiny — like a mustard seed.

That means gardeners may unknowingly spread the worms by sharing plants through garden clubs and spring plant sales. By late July, the mature, 4- to 5-inch-long worms begin to cause noticeable damage, and are laying eggs that can overwinter.

"If you do have jumping worms, one of our first messages is 'keep calm,' " said Laura Van Riper, the DNR's Terrestrial Invasive Species Program coordinator.


'Massive' erosion
What's the threat to gardeners? Experts say "massive" soil erosion is a primary concern, especially on slopes. The jumping worms rapidly eat leaf litter and even larger chip mulch, turning the top 2 inches of soil into a distinctive, coffee-ground-like texture. The loose layer of separate particles "just washes away in heavy rains," said Frelich.

"If you mulch with leaf litter and you have jumping worms, you're essentially feeding them, and their population will explode," said Frelich. The worms also absorb key plant nutrients.

When a garden dries out, the worms cluster around the roots of plants and eat fine roots that absorb moisture. "They damage the roots so badly that they kill a plant," said Frelich, or plants gradually decline. Shallow-rooted plants have a hard time staying rooted.

It's enough to dampen enthusiasm for long-awaited spring plant sales.

"It's just a terrible, terrible thing," said Thompson, who co-chairs the St. Anthony Park Garden Club plant sale in St. Paul. "We are just trying to figure out what to do."

"Prevention is the only known solution," said Angie Gupta, a University of Minnesota Extension educator; she published a long list of plant sale recommendations on the Extension website.

She says clubs can prevent jumping worms from spreading to other yards by not accepting "dig-up" plants or garden materials from infested gardens. Otherwise, gardeners should completely submerge plant roots in water to wash away the soil, any worms and cocoons. The plants can be repotted with sanitized, bagged potting soil from a reputable dealer. Gupta advised buying bare-root plants whenever possible.

Ultimately, it's a case of "buyer beware," said Gupta, who encourages gardeners to ask questions. If you purchase plants from a reputable seller like a nursery or garden center, "it's probably OK," she said.

"We don't have any documentation at this point of jumping worms in any of our member facilities — whether they be growers or garden centers," said James Calkins, research information director for the Minnesota Nursery and Landscape Association. Growers use a peat mix in containers, Calkins said, which "is not a good substrate for jumping worms."

The DNR and Extension are asking Minnesotans to report when they discover jumping worms, and to send in high-quality photos for identification. The worms are smooth, brown or gray with a light-colored ring that completely encircles their body, relatively close to the head. On a European nightcrawler, the raised, saddle-like ring is farther down. Jumping worms also act differently. "They flail about so wildly," said Van Riper.

"I went through stages of grief," Gupta said, when she discovered the jumping worms in her own yard in Rochester. She suspects they came with the mulch she hauled from the Olmsted County compost site.

"They'll smell the mulch and move towards it," Frelich said. "If the worms get into a community mulch pile, they can spread from there to hundreds of individual gardens." Even commercially bagged, heat-treated mulch is suspect, Frelich said, because the bags can have holes and be recontaminated when stored outside.

For the next few summers, Frelich and his research team will study jumping worms' behavior and ways to control them at the Minnesota Landscape Arboretum, where over half of the woodlands are infested.

They're testing elemental sulfur, diatomaceous earth, slug bait and a natural chemical of black tea leaves called saponins, which is commonly used on golf course putting greens to manage earthworms. Frelich also is experimenting with heat and cold. "We know that 110 to 115 degrees is going to kill even the eggs," he said. That's why you're more likely to find the worms in a shady garden bed, rather than a hot, dry lawn.

Until he has answers, Frelich advises gardeners to be "really careful with plant sales, with mulch and to be really observant."

The frustration is acute for gardeners with jumping-worm-infested yards. "I was like, 'Fine, I am going to dig up my entire yard,' " Lippin said with a laugh. "I will dig it up foot by foot and remove every single worm that I find. And then I thought, 'Well, that's not rational.' "

Gail Brown Hudson is a Minneapolis freelance writer with a master's degree in horticulture from the University of Minnesota. She is an Emmy award-winning journalist, writer and video producer, as well as an avid gardener.

Bowser 04-25-2021 10:06 AM

All I know is the grounds service my place hires does a fantastic job. :D

Stewie 05-12-2021 07:30 PM

I purchased a new riding mower this year. I went through the manual/specs etc. and found my engine has "break-in" oil. I haven't bought a small engine product for years and didn't know about this.


Anyway, I used my mower for about 5 hours and changed the oil per Briggs engine manual.



Holy moly! What is in the engine, as shipped, is nothing like normal oil. It's very low viscosity and was grayish/blue.


The oil from the factory is supposed to create more friction so it sets the piston/rings/cylinder for long term use and better compression.


I must say I'm glad I drained the original oil and fill with good 30 weight.


I wonder how many people ignore the 5 hour oil change and run the "thin" oil and wonder why things went wrong?


Just an observation if you're curious about new small engine equipment.

Buehler445 05-12-2021 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 15671592)
I purchased a new riding mower this year. I went through the manual/specs etc. and found my engine has "break-in" oil. I haven't bought a small engine product for years and didn't know about this.


Anyway, I used my mower for about 5 hours and changed the oil per Briggs engine manual.



Holy moly! What is in the engine, as shipped, is nothing like normal oil. It's very low viscosity and was grayish/blue.


The oil from the factory is supposed to create more friction so it sets the piston/rings/cylinder for long term use and better compression.


I must say I'm glad I drained the original oil and fill with good 30 weight.


I wonder how many people ignore the 5 hour oil change and run the "thin" oil and wonder why things went wrong?


Just an observation if you're curious about new small engine equipment.

Everything used to take break in oil. Now the specs are tighter and its not necessary in a lot of applications, but yeah, break in oil is deliberately shit oil.

If you had drained it from the start it would burn oil forever.

Stewie 05-12-2021 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15671596)
Everything used to take break in oil. Now the specs are tighter and its not necessary in a lot of applications, but y20eah, break in oil is deliberately shit oil.

If you had drained it from the start it would burn oil forever.


I looked up break in oil and it seems to be used in high performance racing engines. I assume it's for the same reason. That is, to set the piston/rings/cylinder for long term performance. No matter the machining precision there are always flaws.


I wonder if I can get 20hp out of my 19? :)

lewdog 06-06-2021 08:14 AM

This thread needs some pictures and updates. I know we have gardeners out there!

Guava flushing new growth
https://i.imgur.com/Sph9Zh9.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/epzxWpr.jpg

Grew this mango from seed, from store bought mango

https://i.imgur.com/c0uK7bM.jpg

Another mango, which actually grow well in pots for years.

https://i.imgur.com/LbD6Bdw.jpg

Mango flushing new growth after being topped.

https://i.imgur.com/Wl07rpH.jpg

Plumeria

https://i.imgur.com/X0ia1S0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/aeUtyj6.jpg

Plumeria seedlings

https://i.imgur.com/Iimx6ez.jpg

Papaya growth from seed, from store bought Papaya

https://i.imgur.com/rUSmb3T.jpg

Passion fruit vine was new addition to yard this year. Trellising up an arbor.

https://i.imgur.com/AwbwsQW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/rZZtlpi.jpg

Lime tree....hundreds of limes again this year on a small 6 foot tree. Don't prune them and they grow much better!

https://i.imgur.com/ZxHetSz.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dMSIDbt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ug9UtK4.jpg

Morning Glory trained into a tree to attract all the pollinators to the yard.

https://i.imgur.com/Tn5XxJV.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/15LaX72.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dEuLkJV.jpg

10 foot tall pomegranate tree in grow bag

https://i.imgur.com/LY8XZzr.jpg

Grapevine

https://i.imgur.com/t8r1rHs.jpg

Jalapeno that's been in this spot 5 years. About 4 feet tall.

https://i.imgur.com/4P40Ui9.jpg




Please share some photos. I never grew a dang thing in my life until I moved to Phoenix. Now I absolutely love gardening, it's extremely rewarding and a great stress reliever.

lewdog 06-06-2021 08:16 AM

Tomatoes- Tons of volunteer cherry tomato plants all around the yard too. I just let them grow wild

https://i.imgur.com/2MqvUDI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l1TPBCF.jpg

KCUnited 06-06-2021 10:32 AM

I'm on a city lot so my backyard is the size of a postage stamp, so mostly potted stuff for right now.

New for this year are boxwoods in vertical planters. Going to shape them into spheres once they grow out. Mostly to try and hide my utilities.

https://i.imgur.com/eotxs7t.jpg?1

Arbs from last year that that appear to be doing well. Not sure what the potted plant is but they love the direct sun and flower all summer.

https://i.imgur.com/NhPtZK3.jpg?1

Also grabbed a couple ferns that I'm not sure what to do with yet.

https://i.imgur.com/AW7ueJd.jpg?1

My homie Spruce Chen

https://i.imgur.com/0P9rXrc.jpg?1

Have some available space near my garage. I beta tested some Miss Kim lilacs back there last fall which performed well with fragrant blooms last month. So I plan to fill out that spot with more lilacs this fall. Thinking some native grass or ground cover around them to saturate the space.

https://i.imgur.com/PRis8bw.jpg?1

lewdog 06-07-2021 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15698826)

I ain't leaving you hanging KC!

What's the foliage hanging over the trees in this photo? Almost looks like peach tree leaves.

Looks good man. Vertical planters can definitely be your friend. They look classy and can be moved to different spots in the yard or patio.

Lilacs are a great choice. Super resilient and always look great in the summer.

I assume you'd like to keep the grass pad as is with no intention of putting a tree in the middle of it.

KCUnited 06-08-2021 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15700702)
I ain't leaving you hanging KC!

What's the foliage hanging over the trees in this photo? Almost looks like peach tree leaves.

Looks good man. Vertical planters can definitely be your friend. They look classy and can be moved to different spots in the yard or patio.

Lilacs are a great choice. Super resilient and always look great in the summer.

I assume you'd like to keep the grass pad as is with no intention of putting a tree in the middle of it.

Not sure what those trees are, but they're definitely developing some type of fruit. They're my neighbors and she no speaky the english. I love them though and plan to ask her daughter what they are next time she's over. I'll post pictures once Imgur un****s itself this morning.

Definitely plan to keep the grass pad as is. Its the perfect size to easily maintain. I did get a notice from the city that the shitting looking green space in front of my house between the sidewalk and the city is eligible for a tree. So they're going to come plant something, probably an oak or maple some time this summer. I'm happy about that for the shade potential and I don't feel like upkeeping the grass there because a) I don't own it and b) shitty dog owners that don't pick up their dog's shit would ruin it anyway.

EDIT: Google indicates its a dwarf mango tree

lewdog 06-08-2021 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15700887)
Not sure what those trees are, but they're definitely developing some type of fruit. They're my neighbors and she no speaky the english. I love them though and plan to ask her daughter what they are next time she's over. I'll post pictures once Imgur un****s itself this morning.

Definitely plan to keep the grass pad as is. Its the perfect size to easily maintain. I did get a notice from the city that the shitting looking green space in front of my house between the sidewalk and the city is eligible for a tree. So they're going to come plant something, probably an oak or maple some time this summer. I'm happy about that for the shade potential and I don't feel like upkeeping the grass there because a) I don't own it and b) shitty dog owners that don't pick up their dog's shit would ruin it anyway.

EDIT: Google indicates its a dwarf mango tree

Mangos can’t tolerate freezing so unless it’s moved every winter, it’s probably a stone fruit like peach, plum or nectarine.

But let me know!

KCUnited 06-08-2021 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15700897)
Mangos can’t tolerate freezing so unless it’s moved every winter, it’s probably a stone fruit like peach, plum or nectarine.

But let me know!

They're definitely in ground trees but I don't recall them producing any fruit last year. They sure do look like mini mangos, but maybe a nectarine??

https://i.imgur.com/2jMvf3I.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/58M1WTm.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ZUnJB6X.jpg?1

displacedinMN 06-08-2021 11:15 AM

Looking great Lew!!!!!

Abba-Dabba 06-08-2021 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15698680)
Tomatoes- Tons of volunteer cherry tomato plants all around the yard too. I just let them grow wild

https://i.imgur.com/2MqvUDI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l1TPBCF.jpg

Hemp?

Still looks like it is throwing out pistils. Looks like she may want more food.

ChiTown 06-08-2021 11:33 AM

I love to garden. I'm not into growing veggies or herbs, but I love maintaining plants and flowers in pots and my beds. I'd manicure it all day everyday if I had the time. It's extremely satisfyingly to me.

htismaqe 06-08-2021 11:38 AM

I ****ing hate yard work. Thank God for weed.

BWillie 06-08-2021 11:38 AM

Anybody know a good sod company/person who is reasonable priced? Just need a front yard sodded at a rental.

Pennywise 06-08-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15701212)
I ****ing hate yard work. Thank God for weed.

Thread over.

lewdog 06-08-2021 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15700915)
They're definitely in ground trees but I don't recall them producing any fruit last year. They sure do look like mini mangos, but maybe a nectarine??

https://i.imgur.com/2jMvf3I.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/58M1WTm.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/ZUnJB6X.jpg?1

Can’t be mangos, I promise. I have to protect my mangos when it hits 35 degrees here.

Nectarine is my guess. Super healthy trees they have! Love that look.

lewdog 06-08-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 15701188)
Hemp?

Still looks like it is throwing out pistils. Looks like she may want more food.

I can’t recall the strain my wife is growing. First time growing so it’s a learning process. I think the yellowing was from too much sun when it hit 110 here the other day.

ChiTown 06-08-2021 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15701273)
I can’t recall the strain my wife is growing. First time growing so it’s a learning process. I think the yellowing was from too much sun when it hit 110 here the other day.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SleepyNarr...restricted.gif

htismaqe 06-08-2021 12:27 PM

It's like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree of weed...

https://external-content.duckduckgo....gif&f=1&nofb=1

lewdog 06-08-2021 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15701290)
It's like the Charlie Brown Christmas tree of weed...

https://external-content.duckduckgo....gif&f=1&nofb=1

Hey, we’re new at this asshole!!!

Show me your plant!

htismaqe 06-08-2021 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15701358)
Hey, we’re new at this asshole!!!

Show me your plant!

****, I'm too lazy and burnt out to grow it. ROFL

BWillie 06-08-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15701212)
I ****ing hate yard work. Thank God for weed.

Other than people who hate their wives, who likes it? The dude across the street from me mows his lawn 5 times a week.

htismaqe 06-08-2021 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15701412)
Other than people who hate their wives, who likes it? The dude across the street from me mows his lawn 5 times a week.

I know a lot of people that like to work outdoors. I'm not one of them, however.

BWillie 06-08-2021 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15701416)
I know a lot of people that like to work outdoors. I'm not one of them, however.

If I had a riding lawn mower and alot of high powered landscaping & tree trimming machinery, it may be a little more fun.

htismaqe 06-08-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15701420)
If I had a riding lawn mower and alot of high powered landscaping & tree trimming machinery, it may be a little more fun.

I have a riding lawnmower. It's boring and repetitive.

Noise canceling headphones work wonders though.

ChiTown 06-08-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15701412)
Other than people who hate their wives, who likes it? The dude across the street from me mows his lawn 5 times a week.

I love my job, but I'm not making the world a better or more beautiful place by what I do. Yard Work/Gardening gives me a sense of accomplishment and is an enjoyable, visible payback. It's a great stress release for me.

Abba-Dabba 06-08-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15701273)
I can’t recall the strain my wife is growing. First time growing so it’s a learning process. I think the yellowing was from too much sun when it hit 110 here the other day.

Ah, could be heat stress. I do see a couple leaves canoeing. But with Arizona heat I would expect that. Not letting it dry out helps a lot.

Only reason I thought it might be wanting to be fed more is the yellowing looks to be top to bottom, like the soil may not have enough nutrients left in it. One leaf toward the bottom looks to be showing a phosphorus deficiency IMO. I first thought it was finishing up but,... looking at the picture closer I see white pistils all over which tells me it does have a way to go and should not be yellowing top to bottom like she is finishing. When the caylx matures the pistil will recede somwhat back into the caylx and turn orange.

But I'm a everyday asshole, so take it with a grain of salt.

Abba-Dabba 06-08-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15701358)
Hey, we’re new at this asshole!!!

Show me your plant!

oh, i wanna play

this was from a long time ago when I was a outlaw.

bottom nug shot of Qush.

Stryker 06-08-2021 08:23 PM

If we are being serious here... I have managed to kill all bugs in my yard as well as fertilize and kill all dandelions, dollar weed and clover. Next treatment is Labor Day. Satisfied with my new methods! :thumb:

lewdog 06-08-2021 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 15701688)
oh, i wanna play

this was from a long time ago when I was a outlaw.

bottom nug shot of Qush.

Well that looks neat. Dang.

You can have 6 plants per adult here.

This is our first attempt. We plan to buy more seeds and it's actually easier to grow them here in winter. We were trying to get this one done before summer but we got a slow start.

eDave 06-08-2021 08:32 PM

There's a lot to learn about growing weed. For a weed, it's hard.

KCUnited 06-09-2021 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Stryker (Post 15701868)
If we are being serious here... I have managed to kill all bugs in my yard as well as fertilize and kill all dandelions, dollar weed and clover. Next treatment is Labor Day. Satisfied with my new methods! :thumb:

Please share your methods.

KCUnited 06-19-2021 09:03 AM

I fertilize and maintain my lawn believing a full, healthy lawn is the best weed control, but I'm starting to see a few pop up this year. Mostly clover and broadleaf.

What are y'all using for weed control?

Spray and pray with hose attachment or concentrated mixes?

displacedinMN 06-19-2021 11:24 AM

If you don't need fertilizer, I do a spot spray with 24D

KCUnited 06-19-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15713864)
If you don't need fertilizer, I do a spot spray with 24D

Looks like 24D will take care of my needs.

Do you mix or just go with the ready spray? Results seem to be all over the place in reviews.

kstater 06-19-2021 02:57 PM

Dont do the pre mixed box store stuff. Yeah it'll work. Usually with two apps. But can get a concentrate from farm store that will get you 3x your money. As long as you can read the label and measure.

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kstater 06-19-2021 03:01 PM

I keep a hand sprayer filled with Three Way from Lesco. Kills just about anything that will pop up in my yard. Outside of nutsedge and crab.


Pre emergent is the best course of action though. Properly timed though.
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displacedinMN 06-19-2021 03:45 PM

agree with kstater on both.

I have never timed pre-emerge right.

I did give up doing the fert/weed kill myself. I hired it out. But still have 24D and roundup on hand for small applications.

mlyonsd 06-19-2021 06:27 PM

I've got two hand sprayers, one for 24D and the other for Brush killer which kills everything like Roundup. Cheaper though. I have tried different 24D's through the years. One isn't necessarily like the other if you read the ingredients. The chemical concoctions are different. Here one of the toughest broadleaf's to kill is 3 leaf clover. The best I've found for that is Gordon's Trimec.

Right now the problem is the drought we're going through. Bone dry here. We're over 4 inches short of our annual rainfall. I tried keeping up with my rain train but have given up. There are parts of my yard so dry it sounds like you're crushing shells on the beach when you walk over it.

displacedinMN 06-19-2021 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 15714254)
I've got two hand sprayers, one for 24D and the other for Brush killer which kills everything like Roundup. Cheaper though. I have tried different 24D's through the years. One isn't necessarily like the other if you read the ingredients. The chemical concoctions are different. Here one of the toughest broadleaf's to kill is 3 leaf clover. The best I've found for that is Gordon's Trimec.

Right now the problem is the drought we're going through. Bone dry here. We're over 4 inches short of our annual rainfall. I tried keeping up with my rain train but have given up. There are parts of my yard so dry it sounds like you're crushing shells on the beach when you walk over it.

Trimec is good on Creeping Charlie early in the spring and late in the fall.

I have used spectracide 24D. Thought it was great.


I always tell the story of when dad would take the leftover Roundup and mix it with the leftover 24D. Sprayed it on fence rows. Sure the weeds did not know if they should grow fast or die.

displacedinMN 06-19-2021 09:34 PM

I had some weird grass in my yard. It would not die with 24D and the yard guy could not kill it. So I used a foam brush and wiped it with Roundup

Buehler445 06-19-2021 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 15714254)
I've got two hand sprayers, one for 24D and the other for Brush killer which kills everything like Roundup. Cheaper though. I have tried different 24D's through the years. One isn't necessarily like the other if you read the ingredients. The chemical concoctions are different. Here one of the toughest broadleaf's to kill is 3 leaf clover. The best I've found for that is Gordon's Trimec.

Right now the problem is the drought we're going through. Bone dry here. We're over 4 inches short of our annual rainfall. I tried keeping up with my rain train but have given up. There are parts of my yard so dry it sounds like you're crushing shells on the beach when you walk over it.

Only 4 inches? I looked at the drought monitor and you’d think it hasn’t rained there since the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Trimec is good shit. I think it has some dicamba in it.

If you’re running 2-4D just be sure you get an amine formulation not an ester. Ester will volatilize and nuke your trees.

Miles 06-20-2021 12:11 AM

I have an area behind my garage where I put down a weed barrier and filled in with river rock. I keep getting grass or grass like weed growing there and can’t manage to completely kill it with stuff like ortho ground clear. Anything better that I can try that isn’t so hardcore it messes with my trees in the same area?

mlyonsd 06-20-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15714430)
Only 4 inches? I looked at the drought monitor and you’d think it hasn’t rained there since the extinction of the dinosaurs.

Trimec is good shit. I think it has some dicamba in it.

If you’re running 2-4D just be sure you get an amine formulation not an ester. Ester will volatilize and nuke your trees.

That was on June 1. I've had .26 since. I just checked the average June rainfall for my area and it's 4.1 inches. Not going to come close. Crops showing stress already and it isn't even summer.

mlyonsd 06-20-2021 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15714388)
I had some weird grass in my yard. It would not die with 24D and the yard guy could not kill it. So I used a foam brush and wiped it with Roundup

Lengthy but resourceful process.

mlyonsd 06-20-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 15714476)
I have an area behind my garage where I put down a weed barrier and filled in with river rock. I keep getting grass or grass like weed growing there and can’t manage to completely kill it with stuff like ortho ground clear. Anything better that I can try that isn’t so hardcore it messes with my trees in the same area?

The chemical I use to kill anything it hits specifically warns about root uptake by other plants. So I only use it for fence lines and the gravel driveway.

I'd read the warning label on anything else you pick out.

KCUnited 06-20-2021 09:30 AM

Swung by my local Tractor Supply for some Gordon's Amine 400...j/k its coming Amazon Prime.

Thanks for all the responses. Lawn was laid new from sod last year, so easy peazy, or so I thought. Not sure if its my learning curve on weed control, the drought, or some combo of both, but I feel like Bill Murray in Caddyshack seeing them popping up in my lawn.

displacedinMN 06-20-2021 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 15714655)
Lengthy but resourceful process.

Just wanted to kill the bad grass. Not the good grass. Figured it was worth a shot.

If not, I can cut it out and replace it with sod in the fall or spring.

The hardest part is bending over my mt. dew gut.

Buehler445 06-20-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 15714666)
Swung by my local Tractor Supply for some Gordon's Amine 400...j/k its coming Amazon Prime.

Thanks for all the responses. Lawn was laid new from sod last year, so easy peazy, or so I thought. Not sure if its my learning curve on weed control, the drought, or some combo of both, but I feel like Bill Murray in Caddyshack seeing them popping up in my lawn.

Honestly, I have a yard guy. I could do it all but it would be different shit than I’m using and when I’d need to be doing it I need to be tending the grass that pays.


Read the label but you might need some non-ionic surfactant to help it stick to the leaves.

Buehler445 06-20-2021 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mlyonsd (Post 15714654)
That was on June 1. I've had .26 since. I just checked the average June rainfall for my area and it's 4.1 inches. Not going to come close. Crops showing stress already and it isn't even summer.

Yeah. I think at least the spring wheat is pretty ****ed up there. That’s what I’ve heard anyway. And it’s probably right because a protein premium for my hard red winter has showed up in the market.

Rasputin 06-20-2021 10:29 PM

I thought there was a green thumb thread but I was too lazy look it up but I got a lot of sun flowers growing again this year and a pumpkin patch. I'll share some pics sometime. last year they grew huge (that's what she said)

Bill Brasky 06-20-2021 11:09 PM

Marked for later. I need to post some pics and contribute to this.

Rasputin 06-21-2021 03:44 AM

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Stewie 06-21-2021 07:11 PM

My Toro push mower started running like crap last week. Figured the carb jet was getting clogged. It was. Ran better but still has issues. Figured I'd have to tear into the carb to clean. Went online and found OEM carb for $22 including new air filter as a bonus. No brainer since my time is more valuable than screwing around with a carburetor. Thank you ebay.

Hammock Parties 06-21-2021 09:06 PM

bought some wall planters - what do i do for indoor plants?

easy, low maintenance, looks cool and not too gay

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KS Smitty 06-21-2021 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15716829)
bought some wall planters - what do i do for indoor plants?

easy, low maintenance, looks cool and not too gay

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....70_FMwebp_.jpg

If those are your planters air plants are your best bet. No soil needed just air and water (soak in water for awhile once every week or ten days). Lots of different varieties and fairly inexpensive.

lewdog 06-21-2021 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 15716829)
bought some wall planters - what do i do for indoor plants?

easy, low maintenance, looks cool and not too gay

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....70_FMwebp_.jpg

Those are hideous.

Pothos would probably work in those along with air plants.

Rasputin 07-03-2021 05:32 PM

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I have a forest of sunflowers

Stewie 07-10-2021 06:26 PM

Steven Raichlen made grilled whole sunflower on today's show. Really interesting. You can probably find it on PBS's website or their streaming site. Might be a thing.

Rasputin 07-10-2021 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 15736744)
Steven Raichlen made grilled whole sunflower on today's show. Really interesting. You can probably find it on PBS's website or their streaming site. Might be a thing.



Hmm I'm thinking i can roast them on my grill at low heat and give them a smoky taste I didn't think of that before thanks for the idea :thumb:

Stewie 07-10-2021 06:39 PM

Here's how he did it.


https://barbecuebible.com/recipe/gri...n-vinaigrette/

eDave 07-10-2021 06:42 PM

I like the red ones. Are they of a different variety?

Rasputin 07-10-2021 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 15736761)
I like the red ones. Are they of a different variety?



Yes they are . The giant yellow ones are Russian Mammoth but I forgot what the red ones are called but I like them for obvious red is my favorite color because red represents my favorite NFL football team and sports team called The Kansas City Chiefs.

eDave 07-10-2021 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rasputin (Post 15736765)
Yes they are . The giant yellow ones are Russian Mammoth but I forgot what the red ones are called but I like them for obvious red is my favorite color because red represents my favorite NFL football team and sports team called The Kansas City Chiefs.

They look nice and healthy. Good job, man.

HonestChieffan 07-10-2021 07:50 PM

Japanese beetles hit today

bastards

displacedinMN 07-10-2021 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 15736813)
Japanese beetles hit today

bastards

Going crazy on my Linden trees. I have some old Cruiser max from a chem dealer that I spray on them. Instadeath!!!!!

Buehler445 07-11-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15736903)
Going crazy on my Linden trees. I have some old Cruiser max from a chem dealer that I spray on them. Instadeath!!!!!

Isn’t that a seed treatment? Gray powdery shit or thick liquid?

Be careful with that noise. Shits nasty.

F150 07-11-2021 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 15736903)
Going crazy on my Linden trees. I have some old Cruiser max from a chem dealer that I spray on them. Instadeath!!!!!

Overkill....any pyrethroid kills em

displacedinMN 07-11-2021 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 15737080)
Isn’t that a seed treatment? Gray powdery shit or thick liquid?

Be careful with that noise. Shits nasty.

thick liquid then diluted. the rep that gave it to my wife said he used it around the outside of the house to kill bugs.

displacedinMN 07-11-2021 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by F150 (Post 15737169)
Overkill....any pyrethroid kills em

I want them to suffer.

Update-not many on the tree today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Die suckers!!!!!!!!

KCUnited 08-11-2021 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 15701269)
Can’t be mangos, I promise. I have to protect my mangos when it hits 35 degrees here.

Nectarine is my guess. Super healthy trees they have! Love that look.

Confirmed peaches.

Future beer or hot sauce depending on the yield.

https://i.imgur.com/N6kSDhB.jpg?1

Hammock Parties 08-12-2021 09:43 PM

Looking at some DIY, no-dig fencing options.

You guys like this shit?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/No-Dig-Actu...nel/1000864882

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