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RealSNR 10-30-2016 06:06 PM

This is Alex's third concussion in his career, right?

If I were Alex, I'd really consider hanging 'em up after the season. One more and I'd be at risk of looking like Muhammed Ali as an old man.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12517436)
It will be really nice to watch the next game when all our receivers catch 10 balls for 200 yards since Alex Smith was the ONLY thing holding the team back.


No complaints anymore, everything is fixed.

But should we get excited even if it were....against the Jags?

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12517458)
How do figure that? He's never even ranked the top half.

ranking doesn't mean ****.

Easy 6 10-30-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12517421)
Foles looks good, and thank goodness we have him.

Let's not start partying just yet. He faced the worst defense in the NFL.

This is all true

Not gonna lie though, his persistent style of downfield throwing was bonermeister

At the same time, I wont be throwing a fit when Smith inevitably goes back in... I'm capable of wanting what I want, and facing reality at the same time

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12517465)
This is Alex's third concussion in his career, right?

If I were Alex, I'd really consider hanging 'em up after the season. One more and I'd be at risk of looking like Muhammed Ali as an old man.

I'm not sure. But you can add +2 to his total today.

Clearing NFL concussion protocol is like going through airport security. It's a joke.

New World Order 10-30-2016 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517441)
Exactly.

He's not the starter, regardless of how many here pine for it. It's a waste of time.

The rest of the league respects Alex more than the fanbase.


There is not an opposing DC who is scared of Alex Smith.

chiefzilla1501 10-30-2016 06:08 PM

Alex Smith is the clear starter barring some monster performance from foles. Foles was effective but he still showed some warts.

But anyone who is OK with Alexs performance this season because of his stat line after watching today's game needs to get their head examined. What we saw today is we have exceptionally talented receivers who will get the ball if you give them opportunities to make plays. It's literally the one small element of Alexs game that would elevate him immediately. Hopefully Alex sits out one game as a precaution and Alex can see foles successfully take shots downfield.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517467)
ranking doesn't mean ****.

Herm Edwards is respected around the league. Just saying.

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12517472)
There is not an opposing DC who is scared of Alex Smith.

.....riiiiiight.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coochie liquor (Post 12517443)
Foles Gold


ROFL


I was thinking 'Nick-Folean Dynamite' after all the imbeciles proclaiming him as as the second coming of Joe Montana.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/NYffb...8o/200.gif#106

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12517475)
Herm Edwards is respected around the league. Just saying.

He's also unemployed.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 06:11 PM

Gammons said on the radio that Indy had no answer for Foles. Foles puts pressure on secondaries where Alex can't.

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517484)
He's also unemployed.

Touché

Reerun_KC 10-30-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517482)
ROFL


I was thinking 'Nick-Folean Dynamite' after all the imbeciles proclaiming him as as the second coming of Joe Montana.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/NYffb...8o/200.gif#106

He better suit up and play next week.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12517473)
Alex Smith is the clear starter barring some monster performance from foles. Foles was effective but he still showed some warts.

But anyone who is OK with Alexs performance this season because of his stat line after watching today's game needs to get their head examined. What we saw today is we have exceptionally talented receivers who will get the ball if you give them opportunities to make plays. It's literally the one small element of Alexs game that would elevate him immediately. Hopefully Alex sits out one game as a precaution and Alex can see foles successfully take shots downfield.

Yes but the O-line is finally coming together for the first time in 3 years. Last 3 games we actually have O-line stability. we aired out the ball more today because the running game got shut down. Both quarterbacks got adequate time in the pocket which is a foreign concept for us. Smith is slowly returning to 2012 form where he was 70%, QB rating 106 with the Niners and didn't have to run the ball to get first downs.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12517485)
Gammons said on the radio that Indy had no answer for Foles. Foles puts pressure on secondaries where Alex can't.

Like I said, Foles did well because Indy planned for Smith.

New World Order 10-30-2016 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517495)
Yes but the O-line is finally coming together for the first time in 3 years. Last 3 games we actually have O-line stability. we aired out the ball more today because the running game got shut down. Both quarterbacks got adequate time in the pocket which is a foreign concept for us. It really looked like Smith was returning to 2012 form where he was 70%, QB rating 106 with the Niners


And Foles looked much better.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12517485)
Gammons said on the radio that Indy had no answer for Foles. Foles puts pressure on secondaries where Alex can't.

I don't care what Gammons thought. I just re-watched the game without commercials and Foles simply hit guys who were wide open because Indy is pitiful. Only one throw that really impressed me but Kelce didn't complete the catch .

His biggest completion of the day was actually an underthrown ball caught by a smart receiver who tracked the ball.

Move along..

jspchief 10-30-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12517485)
Gammons said on the radio that Indy had no answer for Foles. Foles puts pressure on secondaries where Alex can't.

No question that a team that prepared for Smith wouldn't be ready for Foles. Completely different qbs.

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 12517411)
Got ya. I'm actually quite happy that I don't have a facebook, despite being of the age that I should.

You should be. It's a waste of time that I divulge in less and less.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy (Post 12517458)
How do figure that? He's never even ranked the top half.

Most QB rankings usually have him bottom half to bottom third as well.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517466)
But should we get excited even if it were....against the Jags?

Any time that a fan of the Chiefs is no longer subjected to the pedestrian ways of Alex Smith, it is very much a time to get excited.

If they start Foles next week, I may actually watch a Chiefs football game this year.

chiefzilla1501 10-30-2016 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517495)
Yes but the O-line is finally coming together for the first time in 3 years. Last 3 games we actually have O-line stability. we aired out the ball more today because the running game got shut down. Both quarterbacks got adequate time in the pocket which is a foreign concept for us. Smith is slowly returning to 2012 form where he was 70%, QB rating 106 with the Niners and didn't have to run the ball to get first downs.

You've got to be kidding me. This isn't a protection issue. Its a mental issue and always has. The ol has been fine for 2 years. Much better than what most qbs deal with. In fact, if Alex Smith took actual chances, he could get rid of the ball faster.

Mr. Laz 10-30-2016 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12517498)
And Foles looked much better.

shut the **** up


all this post is was "bait"

people complain about blackbob etc all the time

guess what ... all the stupid ass "bait" posts by other people are just as annoying.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 12517422)
3rd place at present is fair because the Raiders and Donkeys actually have one more win with the same amount of losses. More wins, same losses, higher win percentage overall.

An extra game would decide things more definitively, but as it stands they've done more positive than us [more opportunity, for better or worse].

Yes and no.
Raiders have a loss to us and their difficult games are back loaded this year.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517497)
Like I said, Foles did well because Indy planned for Smith.

So what was so different? A QB that stays in the pocket and stretches the field?

You cant adjust mid game for that?

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517482)
ROFL


I was thinking 'Nick-Folean Dynamite' after all the imbeciles proclaiming him as as the second coming of Joe Montana.
https://media3.giphy.com/media/NYffb...8o/200.gif#106

LMAO What do you think I keep calling him Nick Dynamite for?

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12517513)
Most QB rankings usually have him bottom half to bottom third as well.

...yet we are 5-2.

Where did Manning rank last year?

HemiEd 10-30-2016 06:19 PM

He led his receivers and stayed in the pocket. End of story.

New World Order 10-30-2016 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517497)
Like I said, Foles did well because Indy planned for Smith.


Enough of the excuses. Foles hadn't taken a live game snap in 8 weeks.

He hasn't played a regular season game since early December

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517529)
...yet we are 5-2.

Where did Manning rank last year?

Sucked ass.. if you can upgrade at QB you do it.

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12517544)
Sucked ass..

:)

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 12517531)
He led his receivers and stayed in the pocket. End of story.

Not the pass to West at the goal line.

He maintained the lead. Did his job. Glad we have him.

Doesn't make him the starter.

New World Order 10-30-2016 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517560)
Not the pass to West at the goal line.

He maintained the lead. Did his job. Glad we have him.

Doesn't make him the starter.


Foles killed it.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 10-30-2016 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517560)
Not the pass to West at the goal line.

He maintained the lead. Did his job. Glad we have him.

Doesn't make him the starter.

https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/23266068.jpg

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2016 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12517570)
Foles killed it.

Did you feel as if you were watching an actual offense, as opposed to stroking your dick with #4 sandpaper as Ruth Bader Ginsburg talked dirty to you?

Please describe.

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517549)
:)

Sucked ass <32

BigCatDaddy 10-30-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12517578)
Did you feel as if you were watching an actual offense, as opposed to stroking your dick with #4 sandpaper as Ruth Bader Ginsburg talked dirty to you?

Please describe.

For the first time in my adult life I missed 2 games in a row and not a **** was given. If Foles is QB Ill start scheduling my Sundays around the Chiefs once again. The family will be taking a back seat :D

Sandy Vagina 10-30-2016 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12517533)
Enough of the excuses. Foles hadn't taken a live game snap in 8 weeks.

He hasn't played a regular season game since early December

Foles did very well, imo, but you have to see the contradiction in your first sentence to the following sentences here.

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 12517570)
Foles killed it.

That's nice.

....doesnt make him the starter. Now, if Smith is hurt? Glad we have him

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12517571)

it must have killed you inside when the 49ers started kap over smith when smith went down gutless fan base when a QB plays better you have to think about benching the starter.

Buzz 10-30-2016 06:37 PM

Is anyone talking about Smiths injury? His head was rolled funny and I would think a neck injury is in the cards. Manning say's hey...

O.city 10-30-2016 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12517595)
For the first time in my adult life I missed 2 games in a row and not a **** was given. If Foles is QB Ill start scheduling my Sundays around the Chiefs once again. The family will be taking a back seat :D

Wait, you didn't watch the game?

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:38 PM

Orton should have took Matt cassell job

if Foles starts next week and kills it there really should be a serious talk of benching smith.

Sandy Vagina 10-30-2016 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buzz (Post 12517622)
Is anyone talking about Smiths injury? His head was rolled funny and I would think a neck injury is in the cards. Manning say's hey...

I'm not reading anything yet to say, but when he walked off, I didn't get the sense that his neck was going to be a problem. My guess is he will be eager to jump right back in.. but could be that Andy wants to be cautious.. all the while seeing how Foles looks in the next game.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517629)
Orton should have took Matt cassell job

if Foles starts next week and kills it there really should be a serious talk of benching smith.

Dumb. Jags won't be an adequate measuring stick anyway.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:41 PM

You know Alex must be sweating bullets dude could lose his job twice during a play off run.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 12517517)
shut the **** up


all this post is was "bait"

people complain about blackbob etc all the time

guess what ... all the stupid ass "bait" posts by other people are just as annoying.

This whole Foles thing has really got your huge clitoris all red and inflamed

Maybe you need some midol and a glass of white zin and a bubble bath you queerbait

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517644)
You know Alex must be sweating bullets

LMAO

It's like you guys are setting yourselves up just to bitch more.

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517643)
Dumb. Jags won't be an adequate measuring stick anyway.

Exactly.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517658)
LMAO

It's like you guys are setting yourselves up just to bitch more.

Overreaction Planet.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12517638)
I'm not reading anything yet to say, but when he walked off, I didn't get the sense that his neck was going to be a problem. My guess is he will be eager to jump right back in.. but could be that Andy wants to be cautious.. all the while seeing how Foles looks in the next game.

I actually agree with Sandy

Alex will be fine. Maybe get foles a few more reps with the 1s ....I'd almost rather have it be a minor neck issue than a second head bonk

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517658)
LMAO

It's like you guys are setting yourselves up just to bitch more.

I'm tired of alex smith playing down to bad teams if he was starting vs the jags he would get 1-2 tds then go full pedestrian the rest of the game dude is literally the most boring QB in the nfl.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517643)
Dumb. Jags won't be an adequate measuring stick anyway.

This is bullshit.

notorious 10-30-2016 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517658)
LMAO

It's like you guys are setting yourselves up just to bitch more.

It is the fuel for that keeps CP rolling.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517666)
This is bullshit.

Bray could start against the Jags.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2016 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 12517595)
For the first time in my adult life I missed 2 games in a row and not a **** was given. If Foles is QB Ill start scheduling my Sundays around the Chiefs once again. The family will be taking a back seat :D

I would definitely be interested in observing again. I haven't watched any games, as the ReidSmith brand of dink and screen is just god-awful painful to watch.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:48 PM

You guys are weird. I'm enjoying our 5-2 record.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517671)
Bray could start against the Jags.

and he might do better then smith. whats your point ?

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12517674)
I would definitely be interested in observing again. I haven't watched any games, as the ReidSmith brand of dink and screen is just god-awful painful to watch.

Watching Foles was pretty nice....exciting....felt like he was taking advantage for his moment. Smart kid.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517679)
You guys are weird. I'm enjoying our 5-2 record.

I'm enjoying the fact that in the 1st time since Trent went down our offensive passing game was fun to watch.

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517664)
I'm tired of alex smith playing down to bad teams if he was starting vs the jags he would get 1-2 tds then go full pedestrian the rest of the game dude is literally the most boring QB in the nfl.

ya, that's what happens when you roll off ten straight wins and win the first playoff game for the Chiefs in two decades.



You guys act like Foles came in and erased a 24 point deficit.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12517683)
Watching Foles was pretty nice....exciting....felt like he was taking advantage for his moment. Smart kid.

this x1000 i'm so tired of the Smith just wins bullshit dude is trent dilfer of QB's

Mr. Flopnuts 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12517674)
I would definitely be interested in observing again. I haven't watched any games, as the ReidSmith brand of dink and screen is just god-awful painful to watch.

Enjoy the Steelers!!!

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517685)
I'm enjoying the fact that in the 1st time since Trent went down our offensive passing game was fun to watch.

Anyone who says that wasn't fun to watch is a stone cold liar!

Coogs 10-30-2016 06:50 PM

Foles was 4-7 for 132 yards and a touchdown on passes over 15 yards. Smith was 0-4.

Sandy Vagina 10-30-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517679)
You guys are weird. I'm enjoying our 5-2 record.

absolutely. A very big win. Bit sad that Smith is going through this AGAIN.. but very pleased that Smith, Foles, and the rest did plenty enough to pull out this away game. The race for the AFCW crown is really hot right now.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-30-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12517683)
Watching Foles was pretty nice....exciting....felt like he was taking advantage for his moment. Smart kid.

Ex.........citing you say?

Mmm...I may have to meditate upon this for a spell.

If Clay were to post a gif or two, the blood might return to my penis.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517680)
and he might do better then smith. whats your point ?

My point is not to judge Foles based on a game where the defense didn't plan for him nor a game that we can sleepwalk through.

Smith is the starter. If you think Reid will make that change, you are a dumb.

Wishful thinking. Hope in one hand, shit in the other.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517686)
ya, that's what happens when you roll off ten straight wins and win the first playoff game for the Chiefs in two decades.



You guys act like Foles came in and erased a 24 point deficit.

it was vs houston and our offense looked bad in that game SO MUCH SO THEY WERE writing articles about how our offense was gonna cost us down the road and it did.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517686)
You guys act like Foles came in and erased a 24 point deficit.

I disagree. I think people are acting like it was probably the most fun game in a while...

Which to me it was. Aside from just hating the Colts, keeping pace in the division....the long bombs and big plays..


Just a straight up fun game

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517699)
My point is not to judge Foles based on a game where the defense didn't plan for him nor a game that we can sleepwalk through.

Smith is the starter. If you think Reid will make that change, you are a dumb.

Wishful thinking. Hope in one hand, shit in the other.

I know reid wont make a change but that doesn't make it any less infuriating it was really nice to see a passing offense again Smith is a soul sucking sack of shit and I don't want my team tied to him anymore.

Can only hope Reid has the balls to pull what harb's did.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12517704)
I disagree. I think people are acting like it was probably the most fun game in a while...

Which to me it was. Aside from just hating the Colts, keeping pace in the division....the long bombs and big plays..


Just a straight up fun game

How I feel 110% can literally not wait for smith and all the 49er faithful to Get the hell out of here.

eDave 10-30-2016 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517705)
I know reid wont make a change but that doesn't make it any less infuriating it was really nice to see a passing offense again Smith is a soul sucking sack of shit and I don't want my team tied to him anymore.

Can only hope Reid has the balls to pull what harb's did.

Dude it was great. A likely mirage though. We'll see. Alex might have Alzheimer's now anyway.

Ming the Merciless 10-30-2016 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12517696)
Ex.........citing you say?

Mmm...I may have to meditate upon this for a spell.

If Clay were to post a gif or two, the blood might return to my penis.

We had passes of 50 yards, 34 , 30 and another big bomb of around 30 that got called back on a shit penalty

Even ol Alex ripped a nice dart to j Mac in the end zone that was very very pretty..to try and keep up with Foles the gunslinger

stevieray 10-30-2016 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12517700)
it was vs houston and our offense looked bad in that game SO MUCH SO THEY WERE writing articles about how our offense was gonna cost us down the road and it did.

Down the road? LMAO


30-0 Kelce had over 100 yards..Ya we sucked.

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:56 PM

Pawn doing some preaching up in here

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petegz28 10-30-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 12517679)
You guys are weird. I'm enjoying our 5-2 record.

^

oaklandhater 10-30-2016 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 12517717)
Down the road? LMAO


30-0 Kelce had over 100 yards..Ya we sucked.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...5#post12013265


Bleacher knew.

petegz28 10-30-2016 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12517712)
We had passes of 50 yards, 34 , 30 and another big bomb of around 30 that got called back on a shit penalty

Even ol Alex ripped a nice dart to j Mac in the end zone that was very very pretty..to try and keep up with Foles the gunslinger

Foles threw a duck that he was lucky that it was caught by a player in red and not blue


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