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gblowfish 01-23-2014 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 10389769)
I see the Royals fantasy camp is going on right now here in Phoenix. I wonder if Brett can put on a smile for dudes paying thousands to be there?

He tells really colorful and fun stories! (NSFW)
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Sure-Oz 01-23-2014 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10389467)
That must be a minor league contract, we have no room for him. He was garbage last season and underwhelming the 2 seasons before that. Last time he was good was 2010.

edit: Couple odd bits of trivia about this guy.

#1) He is the tallest player in MLB history. (6'11")

#2) He's one of the few pitchers who has struck out 4 batters in one inning.

It is a minor league deal with a possibly spring invite whatever

Sure-Oz 01-23-2014 07:46 PM

Apparently Garza hasn't signed with the Brewers yet. Still talks....

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-23-2014 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10389644)
Thats insane. Rex Hudler is the man.

... that I want to punch.

Fansy the Famous Bard 01-23-2014 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10389776)
He tells really colorful and fun stories! (NSFW)
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"Who's the pitchers in this game?" ROFL

Shogun 01-23-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10390058)
... that I want to punch.

The moment I really started loving Hudler is the series we had in St louis that ended up being delayed and then resumed at 2:30 in the morning. He may be goofy and say stupid shit sometimes but after that game resumed, you'd have thought that it was 6 in the evening. He was revved. Dude loves him some baseball. My guy.

SPATCH 01-23-2014 09:46 PM

Love Uncle Hud

Saul Good 01-23-2014 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10389766)
Uncle Hud is a squirter....

http://i40.tinypic.com/216k4o.gif

He nearly got mustard on his suit and made it better looking.

The Bunk 01-24-2014 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 10390135)
The moment I really started loving Hudler is the series we had in St louis that ended up being delayed and then resumed at 2:30 in the morning. He may be goofy and say stupid shit sometimes but after that game resumed, you'd have thought that it was 6 in the evening. He was revved. Dude loves him some baseball. My guy.

My favorite Rex moment was when he insinuated how great it would be if Perez got to play for the Yankees. Remember that one? Good stuff.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10389514)
I thought we non tendered Getz but took his wife to arbitration.

LMAO

tomahawk kid 01-24-2014 07:58 AM

Really feel like they're one more power bat and another solid rotation arm away from making a run at this division.

As it stands today, I think they're just good enough to NOT be good enough (same as last season).

warpaint* 01-24-2014 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 10390656)
Really feel like they're one more power bat and another solid rotation arm away from making a run at this division.

As it stands today, I think they're just good enough to NOT be good enough (same as last season).

Ya unfortunately that's how it looks to me too.

At some point they're going to have to make a couple big moves or it's rinse/repeat. I guess best case scenario is they're holding out to see if any of these young guys come on & if not pull the trigger on something midseason assuming we're in it.

What's more likely is they'd make a small move or 2 & that's about it.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 10390656)
Really feel like they're one more power bat and another solid rotation arm away from making a run at this division.

As it stands today, I think they're just good enough to NOT be good enough (same as last season).

An in-house solution:

Zimmer and Ventura - both dudes could be special - we just need one to do it.

Mike Moustakas - if he can crawl out of his offensive slump and have a breakout year with a little power, our lineup could be damned good.

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10390663)
An in-house solution:

Zimmer and Ventura - both dudes could be special - we just need one to do it.

Mike Moustakas - if he can crawl out of his offensive slump and have a breakout year with a little power, our lineup could be damned good.

Anyone have Moose's winter ball stats?

Strongside 01-24-2014 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10390665)
Anyone have Moose's winter ball stats?

I'm guessing they're at or around his norm. Hence no one has heard.

alnorth 01-24-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 10390656)
Really feel like they're one more power bat and another solid rotation arm away from making a run at this division.

As it stands today, I think they're just good enough to NOT be good enough (same as last season).

Where does this "power bat" play? The only option I can see is to give up on Moose and get a 3B, or give up on Cain, move Aoki to CF, and get a RF. Our lineup doesn't have a gaping hole in it. If I'm going to worry about anything, its our rotation, but surely at least one of the young guys is going to step it up.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 10390656)
Really feel like they're one more power bat and another solid rotation arm away from making a run at this division.

As it stands today, I think they're just good enough to NOT be good enough (same as last season).

They need to improve by 3-5 wins to get into reasonable range for making the playoffs/winning a wild card spot.

I'm not CONFIDENT they've done that, but I could see how they have.

According to pythag, their record was very close last year to what it should have been. Final numbers were within a half win of what they should have been.

The offense should be improved, and has potential to be improved by a lot. IF Aoki does what he has done the past two years as the leadoff man and Alex Gordon slugs .450 again (his average over the past 3 years), the Royals HAVE added a power bat to the middle of the lineup (unconventionally). A bounce back year from Butler improves the offense. And it's not unreasonable to expect Hosmer and Perez to improve a little bit. Just a quick glance at offensive projections, based on established guys performing to norm/young guys taking small steps:

Aoki - . 285/.355/.400 (30 SB, 90 R)
Infante - . 290/.330/.420
Hosmer - .300/.360/.500 (24 HR, 35 2B)
Butler - .300/.370/.450 (19 HR, 40 2B)
Gordon - .290/.360/.460 (20 HR, 40 2B)
Sal Perez - .290/.330/.440 (15 HR)
Moustakas - .250/.300/.400 (15 HR)
Cain - .260/.320/.400
Escobar - .270/.300/.370 (30 SB - these are his numbers hitting 9th for KC in his 3 years here)

That's maybe not a flashy offense, but it's a deeper and more consistent one that should score more runs.

They also have improved by leaps and bounds in what they'll get offensively out of RF and 2B. Whole lineup should be much deeper and more dangerous.

The key question is going to be the pitching staff. They're likely not going to get as much out of the No. 2 spot in the rotation as a year ago, unless Vargas has a real renaissance. If they can get MORE out of the 4/5 spots in the rotation (and avoid 33 starts of high-5 ERA performance like they got a year ago), it can bridge some of the gap at No. 2.

And the bullpen... it's not fair to expect it to be QUITE as dominant as it was a year ago, but it still should be one of the 2-3 best units in baseball.

Add it all up... and I think you can make a good case for a Royals team that, at its best, could win 90-92 games (and maybe even jump up a little more if it has some positive luck).

No guarantees. Obviously. But it's much easier to make a case for this team winning 90+ games because it has many fewer holes.

alnorth 01-24-2014 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10390665)
Anyone have Moose's winter ball stats?

His stats looked good (in 17 games), but I heard not to read too much into it because anyone should have been able to hit the pitchers in the league he played in.

Deberg_1990 01-24-2014 09:02 AM

Hosmer and Moose need to truly step up.

Hosmer did last season, but needs to do it the whole year.

Both of them need to become 100 RBI guys.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10390665)
Anyone have Moose's winter ball stats?

.288/.360/.515
3 HR
6 2B

It was a small sample size (just 17 games/66 ABs), but Moustakas played like the player we all hoped he'd become in Venezuela. Over a full season, that would be good for 25 HR and 50 2B.

I'd be thrilled to get .260/.320/425 out of Moustakas, if he's playing the defense he showed in 2012. That would be an above average player, if not a star.

A sign of things to come? Probably not, but I guess you could hope a little bit.

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10390745)
Hosmer and Moose need to truly step up.

Hosmer did last season, but needs to do it the whole year.

Both of them need to become 100 RBI guys.

If Moose has 100 RBI, then I can see us making a run at the playoffs.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10390745)
Hosmer and Moose need to truly step up.

Hosmer did last season, but needs to do it the whole year.

Both of them need to become 100 RBI guys.

If Hosmer is .300/.360/.500 with the guys that will be hitting in front of him, the RBIs will come.

If Butler and Gordon hit to career norms to round out the 3-4-5 spots, they don't need Moustakas to be an offensive star. Just getting solid offensive contributions from him would make him a valuable player.

SPATCH 01-24-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10390750)
If Moose has 100 RBI, then I can see us making a run at the playoffs.

Uhhh yeah no shit, dude.

alnorth 01-24-2014 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10390745)
Both of them need to become 100 RBI guys.

If that happens and our rotation doesn't come unglued, then we should all be doing backflips.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10390745)
Hosmer and Moose need to truly step up.

Hosmer did last season, but needs to do it the whole year.

Both of them need to become 100 RBI guys.

Highly unlikely for both - and very unlikely for Moose without a major correction in his mechanics.

thebrad84 01-24-2014 09:12 AM

I can guarantee you that Moose does not have anywhere close to 100 rbis this year. That guy has some of the worst plate discipline in the majors and has shown absolutely no signs of correcting it.

Strongside 01-24-2014 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10390750)
If Moose has 100 RBI, then I can see us making a run at a championship.

FYP

Deberg_1990 01-24-2014 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 10390772)
I can guarantee you that Moose does not have anywhere close to 100 rbis this year. That guy has some of the worst plate discipline in the majors and has shown absolutely no signs of correcting it.

Heh, we have heard this a lot over the years, but Moose would probably hit a few more HRs if he played for another team. I remember he hit a few long ones last year that would have been out in several parks. He might be better off just becoming a pure pull hitter.

tyton75 01-24-2014 10:08 AM

Moose needs to step it up, no doubt. But don't forget that Escobar had a terrible season at the plate as well. He really needs to get his bat together.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10390859)
Moose needs to step it up, no doubt. But don't forget that Escobar had a terrible season at the plate as well. He really needs to get his bat together.

He's a big concern for '14. I wish I felt better about Bonifacio or Ciriaco actually pushing Esky. I just don't believe either one poses a threat to replacing him.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyton75 (Post 10390859)
Moose needs to step it up, no doubt. But don't forget that Escobar had a terrible season at the plate as well. He really needs to get his bat together.

As long as Escobar is hitting 9th and playing the defense he has played as a Royal, I'm not as concerned about his offense as long as he doesn't start hitting at extreme low levels.

He's also been much more successful hitting out of the 9th spot as a Royal. Hitting in that lower-pressure spot seems to bring out the best in him. If he can continue to give them .270/.300/.375 out of that spot, with his defense, it works just fine.

The Royals also are no longer in a position where they are relying so much on those guys stepping up because they're strong 1-6, and Moustakas and Escobar are hitting 7-9. Most teams have question marks/concerns 7-9.

jbwm89 01-24-2014 10:59 AM

I think people underestimate how badly the holes in our lineup damaged our run production last year. Not having to go Getz-Dyson-Escobar should make a significant difference.

alnorth 01-24-2014 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10390920)
As long as Escobar is hitting 9th and playing the defense he has played as a Royal, I'm not as concerned about his offense as long as he doesn't start hitting at extreme low levels.

He's also been much more successful hitting out of the 9th spot as a Royal. Hitting in that lower-pressure spot seems to bring out the best in him. If he can continue to give them .270/.300/.375 out of that spot, with his defense, it works just fine.

The Royals also are no longer in a position where they are relying so much on those guys stepping up because they're strong 1-6, and Moustakas and Escobar are hitting 7-9. Most teams have question marks/concerns 7-9.

yeah, I don't think its too greedy but I'd really like him to at least OPS over .625 or so (.700 would be fantastic). He was much better defensively in 2013 than in 2012, but a lot of that got cancelled out at the plate.

alnorth 01-24-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 10390932)
I think people underestimate how badly the holes in our lineup damaged our run production last year. Not having to go Getz-Dyson-Escobar should make a significant difference.

We didn't make a really splashy, sexy move, but oh my God replacing Getz and Frenchy is gonna help a ton. We may end up quietly slapping our way to an above average offense, which is hopefully enough for our defense, pitching, and bullpen.

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 11:02 AM

Praying for our rotation and to remain healthy.

BigCatDaddy 01-24-2014 11:03 AM

I wonder how likely a Moose/Valencia platoon situation is? That would seem like a huge upgrade against lefties. I don't know much about Valencia's defense though.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbwm89 (Post 10390932)
I think people underestimate how badly the holes in our lineup damaged our run production last year. Not having to go Getz-Dyson-Escobar should make a significant difference.

And some of that damage was self-inflicted... like continually batting Escobar in the 2-hole for much of the down part of the schedule and having it backfire tremendously.

Or using Getz as the leadoff hitter. Same issue.

The Royals' biggest question marks are a former top 10 hitting prospect who has shown flashes offensively but never for more than half a season, and a CF and SS who both play ELITE level defense at critical positions.

Not a bad spot to be in.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10390944)
I wonder how likely a Moose/Valencia platoon situation is? That would seem like a huge upgrade against lefties. I don't know much about Valencia's defense though.

I don't know that we'll see a straight platoon and would expect Moustakas to see still starts against some lefties (epsecially hard throwers, whom he seems to hit better than crafty guys).

But Valencia will make the roster and play, IMO.

His defense is slightly below average to average, but not likely to be a disaster in short stints.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10390944)
I wonder how likely a Moose/Valencia platoon situation is? That would seem like a huge upgrade against lefties. I don't know much about Valencia's defense though.

Defensively, if you look at their stat lines, they are pretty similar. Biggest difference is that Moose has a better arm and range.

gblowfish 01-24-2014 11:33 AM

The first thing I want to see when camp opens is what kind of shape Moose and Butler are in. Last year both of them were really out of shape.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10391007)
The first thing I want to see when camp opens is what kind of shape Moose and Butler are in. Last year both of them were really out of shape.

Depends upon how you gage "out of shape". If they were both training for Fraternity Beer Chugging Titles, I'd say they both came in as peek level performers.........

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10391007)
The first thing I want to see when camp opens is what kind of shape Moose and Butler are in. Last year both of them were really out of shape.

Couple that with the rumor that Moose won't put in extra time in the hitting cages scares me the most. Butler, he is always going to be that shape.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10391021)
Couple that with the rumor that Moose won't put in extra time in the hitting cages scares me the most. Butler, he is always going to be that shape.

I didn't hear that rumor. I heard he doesn't like watching tape/video/breaking down his swing that way, but likes hitting in the cage quite a bit.

He's pretty old school in his approach in general, so hitting in the cage makes sense.

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10391032)
I didn't hear that rumor. I heard he doesn't like watching tape/video/breaking down his swing that way, but likes hitting in the cage quite a bit.

He's pretty old school in his approach in general, so hitting in the cage makes sense.

You are correct.

alnorth 01-24-2014 12:24 PM

Just ran my simulator 25 times for the hell of it:

n=25

Royals AL Central Finish

Division Champs: 8
2nd: 13
3rd: 4
4th: 0
Dead f'ing Last: 0

Playoffs

Made it: 16
Didn't make it (includes losing a 163rd game): 9

Lost Wild Card Game: 4
Lost ALDS: 7
Lost ALCS: 0
Lost World Series: 2 (swept by the Braves, lost to the Braves in 5)
Won World Series: 3 (swept the Pirates, beat the Braves in 5, beat the Dodgers in 7)

Hmmm... my simulator may be a little too optimistic for the Royals.

ChiTown 01-24-2014 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10391120)
Just ran my simulator 25 times for the hell of it:

n=25

Royals AL Central Finish

Division Champs: 8
2nd: 13
3rd: 4
4th: 0
Dead f'ing Last: 0

Playoffs

Made it: 16
Didn't make it (includes losing a 163rd game): 9

Lost Wild Card Game: 4
Lost ALDS: 7
Lost ALCS: 0
Lost World Series: 2 (swept by the Braves, lost to the Braves in 5)
Won World Series: 3 (swept the Pirates, beat the Braves in 5, beat the Dodgers in 7)

Hmmm... my simulator may be a little too optimistic for the Royals.

By the way, that is pretty ****ing cool. REP

alnorth 01-24-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10391126)
By the way, that is pretty ****ing cool. REP

Thanks, still bored on my lunch hour. Gonna run one more season and show all the details, no matter what happens. Ready... and, go:

DET 102-60
KC 76-86
CLE 71-91
CWS 70-92
MIN 67-95

ALW: TEX
ALE: BOS
Wild Card #1: OAK
Wild Card #2: TB

Well, that was anticlimactic. No playoffs to simulate, and in this particular season the AL Central really sucked and Detroit kicked all our asses. Oh, well.

Mr. Laz 01-24-2014 01:07 PM

Kansas City Royals Appreciate Jeremy Guthrie’s Team-Friendly Move

January 24, 2014 12:36 pm EST by Doug LaCerte
Jeremy Guthrie
Peter G. Aiken-USA TODAY Sports
One of the bigger Kansas City Royals stories I missed during my sports-related dark period involves patience, understanding and camaraderie. It’s a pretty darn uplifting thing to write about, especially compared to the usual up-and-down rigors of the MLB offseason and especially compared to the incredibly upsetting way the Kansas City Chiefs‘ season ended which I’m still not totally over.
Thanks to things like the recent news about Jeremy Guthrie, though, I’m slowly working through it.
On the Jan. 13, the Royals announced that Guthrie worked with them to restructure his contract in order to free up $3 million for 2014′s payroll. The team’s GM Dayton Moore explained specifics to local media and then gave the vaguest of vague explanations as to why the restructuring was used to save money this season. “We’re looking to maximize our payroll the best way we can,” Moore said.
This restructuring of the veteran righty’s contract will surely be well-appreciated by fans and management alike. Guthrie now joins former Royals ace Gil Meche as guys who will be remembered for helping out their team in special and selfless ways. Moves like this breed confidence as players buy into the team’s ability to succeed enough to make sacrifices for it. This may seem overstated for a subtle rearranging of millions of dollars (and an additional $200,000), but Guthrie went out of his way to improve the team’s chances at winning right now. That warrants a non-sarcastic tip of the cap in any regard.
Whatever Moore’s murky quote will portend remains to be seen. The recent news regarding Masahiro Tanaka keeps KC’s chances of signing a high-profile pitcher remote. I hope I’m wrong, but as of now I assume that $3 million isn’t enough to make a splash in the soon-to-be-ravenous, post-Tanaka pitching market.
Doug LaCerte is a writer for Rantsports.com. Follow him on Twitter @DLaC67, “Like” him on Facebook and add him to your network on Google.

Read more at http://www.rantsports.com/mlb/2014/0...IxlYT74eEgg.99

ChiTown 01-24-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10391207)
Thanks, still bored on my lunch hour. Gonna run one more season and show all the details, no matter what happens. Ready... and, go:

DET 102-60
KC 76-86
CLE 71-91
CWS 70-92
MIN 67-95

ALW: TEX
ALE: BOS
Wild Card #1: OAK
Wild Card #2: TB

Well, that was anticlimactic. No playoffs to simulate, and in this particular season the AL Central really sucked and Detroit kicked all our asses. Oh, well.

NEG REP:evil:

alnorth 01-24-2014 03:20 PM

Just for laughs, let me see how many seasons it takes before the Twins make the simulated playoffs...

After 200 seasons, still no playoffs...

edit: 500 seasons, they finished 2nd twice but still no playoffs for the Twins.

edit2: finally happened, in season #512, and boy the AL Central is a flaming train wreck in that season.

MIN 83-79
KC 80-82
CLE 76-86
DET 75-87
CWS 63-99

alnorth 01-24-2014 04:20 PM

KC's 2014 ZiPS projections are out.

It seems to say that our lineup will be decent and the bullpen will be solid, but they are far less optimistic about our rotation than we are.

duncan_idaho 01-24-2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10391711)
KC's 2014 ZiPS projections are out.

It seems to say that our lineup will be decent and the bullpen will be solid, but they are far less optimistic about our rotation than we are.

I never place much stock in these things, anyway.

Hitting projections rarely make logical sense. For example, where do they get the projection that Aoki's BA will fall 6 points off his career average and his OBP will drop 20 points?

The Vargas projection is especially bad.

gblowfish 01-24-2014 04:41 PM

Uncle Hud was on 610 for an hour today. He said he was going to try to be a little calmer this year. Yeah, right...

alnorth 01-24-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10391766)
Uncle Hud was on 610 for an hour today. He said he was going to try to be a little calmer this year. Yeah, right...

Its not just his manic craziness, the guy just seems... well... dumb. He adds nothing. Being calm might actually hurt him because I think all he adds to the broadcast is his frenzied style.

BlackHelicopters 01-24-2014 04:43 PM

Any truth in the rumor that Hud was in the car with dime bag?

Deberg_1990 01-24-2014 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10391766)
Uncle Hud was on 610 for an hour today. He said he was going to try to be a little calmer this year. Yeah, right...

Hahah...you know he's been furiously jerking it to the Aoki acquisition for months now.
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ChiTown 01-24-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theelusiveeightrop (Post 10391770)
Any truth in the rumor that Hud was in the car with dime bag?

That was Professor Plum, with his mighty candlestick, eating out Mrs White in the Conservatory.

Nevermind...........

Stanley Nickels 01-24-2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10391529)
Just for laughs, let me see how many seasons it takes before the Twins make the simulated playoffs...

After 200 seasons, still no playoffs...

edit: 500 seasons, they finished 2nd twice but still no playoffs for the Twins.

edit2: finally happened, in season #512, and boy the AL Central is a flaming train wreck in that season.

MIN 83-79
KC 80-82
CLE 76-86
DET 75-87
CWS 63-99

Do you have to manually compile results (as you did over 25 seasons in a previous post), or can this simulator export to Excel? I'd be really interested to see whatever stats it could produce over 500 seasons.

alnorth 01-24-2014 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 10392040)
Do you have to manually compile results (as you did over 25 seasons in a previous post), or can this simulator export to Excel? I'd be really interested to see whatever stats it could produce over 500 seasons.

I'm sure a simple macro could be written, but I just manually tallied them up.

C3HIEF3S 01-26-2014 03:54 PM

Interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Re: Santana; industry insiders say Garza deal means Magic unlikely to get more than 3y/$40m. Maybe much less. Could put many teams in play.</p>&mdash; Bob Dutton (@TNT_Mariners) <a href="https://twitter.com/TNT_Mariners/statuses/427474767763890176">January 26, 2014</a></blockquote>
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KevB 01-26-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S (Post 10394484)
Interesting.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Re: Santana; industry insiders say Garza deal means Magic unlikely to get more than 3y/$40m. Maybe much less. Could put many teams in play.</p>&mdash; Bob Dutton (@TNT_Mariners) <a href="https://twitter.com/TNT_Mariners/statuses/427474767763890176">January 26, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Which has been speculated....very likely could mean he could be interested in a 1 year deal to get back in next season as a free agent. Playing in our park, with our D on a competitive team may be his best option? Wishful thinking, but spring training is coming so wishful thinking is accepted.

DeezNutz 01-26-2014 04:24 PM

Payroll is at an acceptable number right now, but Santana's drop is quickly becoming a litmus test for Glass's willingness to follow Dayton's lead and go "all-in."

cabletech94 01-26-2014 04:41 PM

c'mon royals. DO IT!

Sure-Oz 01-26-2014 04:56 PM

Royals better be trying to atleast get a 1 year deal with Santana, this rotation needs him

Three7s 01-26-2014 05:08 PM

I have to say, if by some miracle, the Royals sign Santana, this team is legit.

CaliforniaChief 01-26-2014 05:13 PM

I would JIMP if we signed Santana to 3/40.

KChiefs1 01-26-2014 05:16 PM

Saw the Royals thread at the top & thought something had happened like Santana signing.
Does anyone really think the Royals will do that?

alnorth 01-26-2014 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 10394535)
Payroll is at an acceptable number right now, but Santana's drop is quickly becoming a litmus test for Glass's willingness to follow Dayton's lead and go "all-in."

I'm with you, if he's really worth only 3/40 (I wont believe it till I see it, Dutton's reliable on reporting facts, but terrible on speculation). At that price point, we really should be in on him.

Pitt Gorilla 01-26-2014 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 10394721)
I'm with you, if he's really worth only 3/40 (I wont believe it till I see it, Dutton's reliable on reporting facts, but terrible on speculation). At that price point, we really should be in on him.

i might go a bit more to get him. Great price point.

warpaint* 01-26-2014 07:02 PM

So what has been the holdup with Santana getting a deal w/ somebody? Seems weird to me but honestly I haven't paid attention to baseball free agency in 10+ yrs due to the Royals typically being losers in it.

tk13 01-26-2014 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 10394804)
So what has been the holdup with Santana getting a deal w/ somebody? Seems weird to me but honestly I haven't paid attention to baseball free agency in 10+ yrs due to the Royals typically being losers in it.

Whoever signs Santana is going to lose a 1st round pick. That's a biggie.

Plus Santana is HR prone, probably not a good fit in small ballparks... and has a history of being inconsistent from year to year. That's a concern even if the Royals were to sign him.

Simplicity 01-26-2014 08:04 PM

Pull the trigger... With Santana we have a SOLID rotation...

Prison Bitch 01-26-2014 09:45 PM

ZIPS projections out on Fangraphs. Here are a few projections with comparables to our current players:


Player IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 ERA+ zWAR No. 1 Comp
James Shields 212.0 8.24 2.50 0.93 114 4.2 Bob Welch
Ervin Santana 185.7 7.12 2.67 1.31 96 2.2 Ramon Ortiz
Yordano Ventura 137.3 7.47 3.74 0.92 98 1.7 Matt Clement
Greg Holland 69.3 12.99 3.38 0.65 175 1.7 Bryan Harvey
Jeremy Guthrie 166.0 5.20 2.60 1.19 90 1.3 Walt Terrell
Danny Duffy 94.0 8.62 4.50 0.86 100 1.3 Erik Bedard
Jason Vargas 191.0 5.80 2.36 1.55 87 1.2 Scott McGregor
Wade Davis 140.3 7.57 3.46 1.03 90 1.1 Victor Santos
Luke Hochevar 70.7 10.57 2.55 1.02 134 1.1 Trevor Hoffman

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/2014-...s-city-royals/

WhawhaWhat 01-26-2014 09:55 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> fans: RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo">@ChrisCotillo</a>: Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rockies&amp;src=hash">#Rockies</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Orioles&amp;src=hash">#Orioles</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Mariners&amp;src=hash">#Mariners</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Yankees&amp;src=hash">#Yankees</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dodgers&amp;src=hash">#Dodgers</a> have expressed interest in signing Ervin Santana.</p>&mdash; Pete Grathoff (@pgrathoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/statuses/427650751536439296">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Cephalic Trauma 01-26-2014 10:11 PM

There's a post on deadspin about the song "Royals" and it being inspired by a George Brett photograph. Nothing new, but this comment on Deadspin was hilarious.

It reads,"Ironically, "And we'll never be Royals" is included in every Scott Boras client's No Trade Clause"

BigCatDaddy 01-26-2014 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10395384)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Royals&amp;src=hash">#Royals</a> fans: RT <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisCotillo">@ChrisCotillo</a>: Source: <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Rockies&amp;src=hash">#Rockies</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Orioles&amp;src=hash">#Orioles</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Mariners&amp;src=hash">#Mariners</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Yankees&amp;src=hash">#Yankees</a>, <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Dodgers&amp;src=hash">#Dodgers</a> have expressed interest in signing Ervin Santana.</p>&mdash; Pete Grathoff (@pgrathoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgrathoff/statuses/427650751536439296">January 27, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Rockies , Os and Yanks seem like bad fits.

KChiefs1 01-26-2014 10:42 PM

Odds that Santana signs with the Royals?

nychief 01-26-2014 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10395501)
Odds that Santana signs with the Royals?

Zero

alnorth 01-26-2014 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 10394804)
So what has been the holdup with Santana getting a deal w/ somebody? Seems weird to me but honestly I haven't paid attention to baseball free agency in 10+ yrs due to the Royals typically being losers in it.

Tanaka.

No high-end pitcher outside of Kershaw was going to get anything until Tanaka was signed. Now that he's signed by the Yankees, things are going to happen.

Three7s 01-27-2014 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 10395450)
Rockies , Os and Yanks seem like bad fits.

Yep, they'd be really dumb to sign him.


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