I also heard that Pickens pressed the issue of not going to the Pac-xx even though they are part of the package. If UT and OU were willing to give a bunch of concessions to join that league, why not save the Big XII?

Yeah that was pretty damn funny.

The amount of UT/OU cock that will have to be swallowed to keep them B12 may be very large.

No one wants them without major concessions. People think they're in the drivers seat, but they're not by a long shot. Let Texas go to the Pac-xx with no LHN, no monetary advantage and even distribution of funds, etc.... and then add in the abortion of a "pod" system of games.

It sounds like OU's lists of demands is pretty ridiculous. If I had to guess, I'd bet they were making a token effort to save the Big 12 for spin purposes later (we tried to save it, honest we did!).

They're pressing Texas and they damned well should. I'm sure the Pac-xx is loving the complete meltdown of the teams they want in their league.

How so? Every other major conf shares revenue equally, and no conf is going to take UT with LAN as it is. UT misrepresented the scope of the network, and Beebe has been ineffective in preventing or looking out for the conf's future. When Neb wanted to leave last year he couldn't even go up there to sit down & talk with them.

Pac doesn't want OSU or Tech. They would still take Texas and Oklahoma though. But like I've been saying from the beginning, Oklahoma and Texas still want to keep the Big12 together.

But it doesn't sound like BYU is a lock anymore. Sounds like TCU, Louisville, and South Florida are now the teams on the Big12 radar after those other BigEast schools jumped ship.

Maybe it's just me, but as an MU fan I would just as soon get the hell out of the Big 12. Any attempt to save it now is just another delay until Texas gets what it wants from another conference or decides to go independent. OU may stay here this year but when the PAC 12 comes calling again, at that time they will pack up and go.

To hell with this soap opera we see every year. Let's get out while we still have some sense of our dignity and a decent conference wants us. Otherwise we'll join the rest of what will be left of the Big 12 next year looking for a MWC/MAC or Big Least merger.

MU would be a solid addition to any conference. Solid all-around athletics, academically sound and two TV markets.
I don't understand why some MU fans (not singling you out) seem worried about not getting a seat at a good table.

That' OK vailpass...I'm fine with being singled out. I stepped out and put this here.

My biggest concern is Brady Deaton...here's a guy who could be handed a note with the winning numbers for tomorrow's Powerball and still manage to not win it.

And if he can't mess it up, then our old buddy Mike will.

Sounds like we'd be in the SEC West.

http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2...zzou_to_j.html

"Saving" the Big 12 is a complete waste of energy at this point unless TX is going to become a "regular" member, which they will never support. Therefore, putting a Band-Aid on this whole thing seems like an incredible exercise in futility.

Everyone who can get the hell out should.

Don't sell yourself short Judge Schmaels; you're a tremendous slouch. :D
Mizzou will be fine.

Mizzou to the SEC East makes way more sense than it does to the SEC West. Missouri borders two East states vs one West state. Plus, Auburn moving East would really affect schedules. SEC teams get exactly one cross-division game added to their permanent schedule. Alabama's permanent rival is Tennessee. If Auburn moves East then it means that Alabama would have to choose either TN or AU.

Putting Mizzou in the east preserves historic rivalries. It also allows Mizzou to add A&M as their cross-division rival game, helping to preserve Mizzou's Texas recruiting pipeline.

Auburn wants to go East. After the Tide, they would rather play Georgia, Florida, and Tennessee.

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just get it over with

I agree that Mizzou to the East definitely makes sense (I think I might have proof that I was the first person to ever type this idea on the interwebz), but we might actually prefer to play in the West though so we can build rivalries with Arkansas, A&M, and Ole Miss.

When the Big 12 expanded, it killed the Nubs-OU rivalry. If only one annual SEC rivalry gets impacted by expansion, I'd consider that a success.

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Much more likely.

Auburn can suck a dick.

I'd fully support Mizzou beating the piss out of Gene Chizek on an annual basis.

Damn, I might start following Mizzou if this happens. I'd definitely make the drive to Oxford, Tuscaloosa or Knoxville to see a game.

There's pretty much no way of that happening annually. Mizzou and Auburn are going to be in different divisions.

Looks like I'm hosting a Gang of 14 reunion party in Tuscaloosa. Bring Hamas down with you and let the debauchery begin.

SEC should do North/South divisions:
North
Alabama
Arkansas
Kentucky
Auburn
Missouri
Tennessee
Vanderbilt

South
Mississippi State
LSU
Florida
Georgia
Ole Miss
Texas A&M
South Carolina


Permanent Cross-Division Rivals:
Alabama - LSU
Auburn - UGA
Arkansas - Texas A&M
Tennessee- Florida
Kentucky - Mississippi State
Ole Miss- Missouri
Vanderbilt - South Carolina


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UGA and Auburn play every year and are in different divisions. Same with Tennessee and Auburn. In fact, those 2 play on the same Saturday every year. LMAO

You'd probably have to settle for Bobby Petrino.

LMAO

If he's up for it, I'd definitely make the trip.

I went to Knoxville last year, that stadium is crazy. I'm not a Vols fan, but there's no way that's not one of the top 5 football venues in the world.

Yeah Rocky Top is nuts, and it is crazy to think they are actually in a down period right now.

You could move Auburn and Alabama east (keeping their rivalry) while moving Vandy or UK West and allowing them to keep their traditional rivalry game with UT.

Probably would be Vanderbilt, but that SEC East would be a monster - Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Kentucky.

That's a murderer's row. One that also helps Mizzou. Do it.

Espn news reporting mu informally agreeing to join sec.

Commence flapping?!?

No way, that actually makes me more nervous. ESPN usually seems to be wrong in these ordeals lately.

I thought the SEC said they didn't invite Mizzou...

At the same time:

Dave_Matter Dave Matter
RT @PeteThamelNYT: We need to tap the brakes on Mizzou and SEC. Been told definitively that no alignment scenario has been discussed

I don't see Mizzou jumping ship before Oklahoma or Texas. Let the dust settle and see where MU lands.

Missouri has about 400 miles of border with Arkansas and only about 100 miles of border with Kentucky and Tennessee combined. And Columbia is west of all but 2 of the other SEC schools.

Your other arguments may have merit though.

Watching The Evening Jones for the first time, Bomani Jones is good. He's talking a little realignment.

http://www.bomanijones.com/the-evening-jones-9-20-11/

just reported MU to SEC..............deal is done

I don't believe it until I see us on the field against an SEC opponent.

Is shit real yet?

CoMo probably just sent Mizzou to the Mountain West, but then he'd be sad since it would negatively affect his football team.

But BASKETBALL in the BIG EASTERN 12 WILL RULE!!!

Just saw it on ESPNews. Still using words like "tentatively," but the fact that they're reporting it fills me with hope.

need to finalize details....but it's confirmed

OU pushing hard for Pac12.

I can honestly say this is the first time Alden has done something "right" while at MU.

Not trying to piss on the parade, but weren't they reporting it last year?

interesting..

Google News isn't turning up anything. Where are you getting this?

Have fun getting raped.

i have my sources...

Some schools don't run to an easier conference.

Marijuana-induced image?

forgot that pinkel was his hire...

ok.....2nd thing.

Oxford is awesome. Have not hit the other ones yet.

LMAO

Nice.

Welcome to Conference USA, Mizzou!

mmm a bowl sounds nice right about now....weather's nice outside for a smoke on the back deck.




but im all out..:deevee:

I'd love to go party with Reaper, but there's no way that I could stomach the cheap beer he's always raving about.

Rumor is Missouri being invited will mean that OU and OSU will be #15 and #16. Take it with a grain of salt though but it would make the SEC even better.

MU wouldn't want to lose to Memphis, East Carolina, and Houston year after year.

Hell they wouldn't even win that conf in bball.

I'd like those additions, actually.

Being a site that caters to one team and fan base only gives it so much exposure but RockM is an awesome website. Even keeled discussion...great news and media source as well as shit that is hilarious.

MU off to be with the rest of the slavers/Butthurt KU fan :D

You're trolling.

Each one was more or less spot on. The Texas AM to SEC comic was the best though.

What's a brotha gotta do to get invited to this crap!

I totally hate the Chiefs more than the charter members of the 'gang'.

takes one to know one.

oh my bad.....zach never trolls on CP

P.S. Include me in the "I'll believe it when we start changing signage" group.

I've seen too many 'informal' or 'tentative' agreements go nuclear to give a rip about handshake agreements at this point.

Of course he is. UCF is the one that MU would have to worry about.

Christ - I would hope that would at least push Auburn over to the East.

It would be like taking Baylor's place in the XII south all of the sudden. OU, OSU, A&M and Bama in the same division? The weak sisters would be Ol' Miss and Mississippi....and Mizzou. Damn that would be nasty.

Hopefully they would push it all the way to the 'pod' setup at that point. I actually like the way the PAC handled that; it looked like it would create a really cool set of rivalries while also ensuring that teams all played each other with some regularity. It would cut down on some of the hellacious travel as well.

We might still end up in a murderous one though, probably OU, OSU, ARK and MU.

It'd be tough as hell, but damn it would be some fun football.

Pod would be Mizzou, OU, OSU, and Arkansas. We would play the other 3 in our pod every year and 2 from the other pods every other year for a total of 9 conference games plus 3 non-cons.