Seymour may just walk through that door:


Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 12, 2010 11:26 AM ET
After a year spent in Oakland, Richard Seymour is headed for unrestricted free agency.

He's open to playing for just about any team. Except the one that drafted him.

"There's probably about 31 teams I'd consider going to," Seymour said in a conversation with Tom Curran of Comcast Sports New England. TC asked him if he'd take a call from the Patriots if they approached him.

"That isn't something I'm looking to do at all," Seymour said. "But there's no ill will. I wish them the best. I really mean that. . . . I think it could have ended in a more respectful way, but that's just my personal opinion."

Seymour certainly isn't at his career peak, but he'll be an attractive, experienced starting option for the many 3-4 teams in the league. (The Chiefs and Broncos come to mind.)

Signing Seymour and trading Dorsey seems like something the current regime would do.

According to NFL.com's Jason LaCanfora, ex-Browns head coach Romeo Crennel is talking with the Chiefs about the defensive coordinator position, but no deal has been worked out yet.

There had been reports that Crennel would be joining the Chiefs' coaching staff, but it wasn't certain that he'd be taking over as defensive boss. Expect him to be signed shortly while Clancy Pendergast remains in limbo.

http://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/7675155481

I'm not at all avoiding the question. Nor have I done any searches (I don't care enough to).
It's an obvious answer.

I was referring to the Four Horsemen (you, Hamas, Mecca and Dane).
The not-so-merry bunch of bitchfesters who despise just about everything this organization does.

I'm not alone. There are dozens of posters who smell it on you.

But point taken. You're happy with the hires.

they better get something really good for Dorsey

Dane McCloud actually rejoiced at the news of Weis being hired.

Well slap me and call me Susan.

He won't leave Oakland - They will use a franchise tag on him

Pest, it's easier to just assume, than to actually get the facts.

Notice how even when mic was proven wrong, he still had to cling to his schtick?

Quiet.

Stereotypes are more comforting.

I believe they can't, that was part of his one year deal ?

LMAO

Hey....sorry.

I'm just pissed that they would actually use a Four Horsemen reference....and not include me. I mean....FFS!!!! :cuss:

Starting?

ROFL

FAX

Greasy Al will find a way

Now that you mention it, I have noticed that fewer people actually wade into football discussions. Can't blame them, though.

It's like wading into a glass eating orgy.

FAX

What schtick?

Watch this... I was wrong. I have never had a problem admitting I was wrong. I don't stand to gain anything from being right. Or pretending to be smarter than everyone else around here.

You were tickled pink by the Weis hire. I stand corrected.

Now, tell me how that changes the fact that the four of you typically bitch about this organization indiscriminately? Answer: it doesn't.

Yeah, because outside of this situation they aren't the usual suspects bitching about what the organization does more often than everyone else.

You could just ask them to join instead of bending over backwards to shine their shoes.

Would you complain about such a move provided that the Chiefs actually got something for Dorsey?

One more time...

I was wrong. I lumped OTWP and Dane into the 4H category when in fact they were happy with the Weis hiring.

My mistake. I stand corrected.

I'm not going to speak for the "other 3" but "typically" this organization hasn't done anything to warrant any ****ing praise.

I've been here for 4 years and I've had people call me a homer, and people call me a hater. Sounds like someone who calls it as they see it, to me.

Give me something to commend, and I will. The Chambers signing, as an example.

Give me something to criticize, and I will. Like bringing in 45+ new players and getting jack shit from it.

There are others who would respectfully disagree.

2 more wins than the previous season qualifies as "jack shit"?
This is why people have a tough time with you.

You tell 'em, Mr. Micjones.

Mr. OnTheWarpath58 is a Hater, alright. Hater, Hater, Hater.

FAX

This.

No one wants to talk football, because EVERY discussion ends in Hamas, Dane or one of the horsemen insulting the other posters.
That's all this place is now.
I wish we could all talk in person. I'm sure the tone would much different.

So why do you cheer for them?

We just hired the two best COs available on both sides of the ball after doubling last years win total.

Shocking, considering the way the majority around here speaks, you'd think we had gone 10-6 the past 3 seasons, instead of winning 10 out of 48 games.

Move the goalposts much?

You know damn well what I meant by that. We brought in 45+ new players and not one of them could be considered a playmaker, or core player. Though someone will surely try to argue that Chambers is a playmaker.

Quit being disingenuous.

LMAO.

It's cool. Don't be upset at others for noting the hypocrisy.

Christ, can you read?

I JUST got done pointing out that I'm happy with the Weis hire, and content with the Crennel hire. And said so when the topic first came up.

Anyone have any smart questions they'd like to ask?

I've got no problem with you, but it does seem as though you follow the horsemen around, and go " Yeah!!"

4 horsemen, and a pony rider lol.

LOL LOL..Gee thank you for making me feel stupid:rolleyes:

There apparently were some talks about a contract extension for DE Richard Seymour during the season, but the Raiders were unable to get close to serious negotiations, and observers in Oakland say it's clear that Seymour wants to play for a different team in 2010. He's said to be very aware that he'll receive the franchise tag this offseason if no long-term deal is worked out.

Source: Pro Football Weekly

Improvement in an NFL team ... lasting improvement, that is ... not improvement dictated by fluke plays or easy schedules ... but real, systemic, enduring improvement doesn't happen overnight, Mr. OnTheWarpath58.

Other than their extraordinary rudeness to other posters, I think this is the main issue I have with the Haters. They seem to believe that it is possible to turn a franchise that is this freaking bad around in a short time ... it isn't possible.

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When going from 2 total wins to 4.... and watching the way they stumbled through those 4 wins...

Yeah, I'd say that qualifies as "jack shit" IMO... especially when the overall improvement of the team, outside of the W-L record, doesn't indicate an upwards trend.

That would suck for him if he is stuck there.

Just reminding you. Because you, along with the rest of the horsemen will spend 10 seconds talking about the positives, and the other 23 hrs, 59min, and 50 seconds of the day crying like bitches about what you believe are the negatives, and everyone else is sick of reading the same pissing and moaning.

That's bullshit, and you know it.

No one here was expecting this team to go 10-6. What would have been nice are some flashes and the building of a foundation.

Aside from Charles, Dorsey, Flower, and DJ (all leftovers, FWIW) who flashed this year?

What makes people believe, aside from hope, that our 60 million dollar QB and our 60 million dollar DE are foundational players?

No, it wouldn't.

As people who have met me can attest, I'm not a fan of stupidity from behind a keyboard, or in person.

For the most part, the people who get "insulted" have brought it on themselves by saying something epically stupid, or are using hope and faith as the foundation of their argument.

Example: I disagree with Deez and Pestilence on occasion, but we respect each other's opinions because we're all using facts, stats and evidence to support our case.

If you want to blame me for anything, blame me for being intolerable of people that can't construct a valid, thoughtful argument backed by evidence other than excuses or blind faith.

In that case, guilty as charged.

You're absolutely right.

I hardly ever offer my own opinions. Long history of this on this site.

Correct Fax, but they will point to a team with completely different players, and say "why didn't we do that?" "because they are ****in morons that's why"

^Winner^

^Loser^

See how that works?

It's the same tautological argument ad nauseum.

You do "X" because that's what I want to be true, therefore it is so.

The Chiefs are on the right track because I want it to be true, therefore it is so.

Deez is a clinger (all-time dumbass statement, BTW) because I want it to be true, therefore it is.

Why?

Bitching is just a part of some people's nature. Accept their nature people, thats all you can do. Bitching about it doesn't make things better? It only fuels their fire even more. No matter what happens, or what moves are made the 4 horsemen would bitch....lol it's downright hilarious...Better to laugh about it than be angry about it.

Bull shit.

Dane completely pissed all over that new dude TigerPig earlier for saying something completely reasonable, and if he were to act an ass like that to me or anyone else in person, he'd probably get to stare at his ass after getting his face slapped towards the south.

Honestly, I don't recall you ever taking it to the level that Dane does, but I do bartend in a sportsbar, on Sundays, and know that people don't "discuss" football the way some around here do.

Sorry, but that's a strawman argument.
That doesn't at all mean there have not been good decisions made or improvement.

How's that moving the goalposts?
God knows what you mean. I know what you type.

Dorsey sucks
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Another bust of a DT:cuss:

JWhit is right about everything he said about Dorsey. I thought he was supposed to be the centerpiece around the DLine? "Supposively" supposed to be that difference maker?

Yeah:rolleyes:

Not even close.


Who said that?

Yeah. That one-time assumption qualifies me as a hypocrite.
:rolleyes:

We'll forget the fact that I said I was wrong.

AND that later a poster reinforces the idea that you're a 4H poser running behind them.

Simmah.

I've expressed concern about Cassel. I'm unconvinced that he has what it's going to take, so don't bother arguing with me about that. As for the DE you mention, I have taken no stand on him whatsoever since you can't judge a DE in his first year ... not if you have the brains of a gnat, anyhow.

Now ... where were we? Ah, yes ... what have they done? Not much that the casual fan would notice. Haley promotes some improvement in core stats which is typical of a head coach trying to keep his job. But, I think the main thing they've done is establish a very disciplined approach to the franchise in general that will serve them well going forward.

Again, you appear to think that there should have been greater strides made. Why else would you complain? But honestly, this is unreasonable and seems to reflect an unrealistic view of the team. We were and are horrible. We had and have very little talent. There was a very serious leadership void. It isn't going to change overnight ... and never was ... that was never a serious goal. To try and convince people that Pioli and Haley have failed in their first year (as rookies in their respective positions) appears, therefore, kind of foolish, unfortunately.

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We can agree to disagree.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I haven't even read this thread, but let me guess:

The same ol' Pioli ballwashers are in here bitching about the Four Horsemen? Carry on, men. Carry on.

A statement that was only made by you.
I never called him a clinger.
I actually think he has much more to add than the horsemen do, but that doesn't mean he doesn't throw in a "Yeah" on a pretty consistent basis.

Same old cry baby "we should have done this shit" over, and over.

Yes you are correct.

I make smartass one-liners in pretty much every thread I've ever been in during my time on this site. Same thing I do if I'm sitting around shooting the shit with my friends in real life.

But I'd like to think that I make enough substantive posts that I stand on my own two feet around here, or otherwise. As always, folks are welcome to disagree. That's life.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

So, the fact that serious concerns are already being raised about the QBOTF for this franchise from the biggest of homers is not enough to even suggest that the FO may have failed in its first year?

Furthermore, you seem to be conflating strides with "wins".

Mike Brown doesn't help this team make strides by stubbornly starting him when he's costing the team games.

Mike Vrabel doesn't help this team make strides when he continues to start and get decimated every week.

Mike Goff and Rudy Niswanger don't help this team "make strides" when they are veterans with no upside.

At what point does "leadership" become less important than losing games because of poor tackles, or putting points on the other team's board because you can't execute a shotgun snap to a quarterback?

Directly mocking mic's schtick lately when he's entered some threads.

"Let me guess..."

And then proceeds to paint with a broad brush. Whatever.

I'm a Pioli ballwasher?

Good thing my commentary suggests anything but.
What were you saying about being a hypocrite earlier?

Thank you Fax.

Foolish Indeed.

That may have been one time, but at least Im proud to say I don't go out and whine and complain all the time about evey little thing nor possess the level of bitching you guys do.

Hey ... bitching is in my nature and i'm still not being a freaking reerun about Haley and Pioli. :harumph:





these guys are just dicks and they enjoy being dicks for various reasons.

What? You don't like it when someone constructs a false binary and lumps you into it?

.

Oh, wait, is this a...point?

Or did I just shine someone's shoes? They sure as hell weren't mic's.

That's hilarious. Why don't you find ONE other thread I have followed Mic in before today in the last 3 months.

Go ahead. That will be funny.

I'll bet i could probably find a thread with you juggling horsemen balls everday for the last 3 months.

God forbid the idea that I read several pages to get an overall idea of what's been said.

QFT.

****, man.

You completely missed the point.

Yeah Deez. I'm reeling from the idea that you're making some cyber point about me making an assumption. AFTER I acknowledged that I did so and apologized.

You're handing me my ass now.

Forget their overall behavior here. That doesn't inform my opinion.

Now go rinse your mouth out. Your breath smells like Dane.

okay, sorry. Maybe I should have been more specific. Bitching is in our nature as humans. But, the "level of bitching", uh huh thats the right thing to add, okay you can claim to be a bitch but you're nowhere near the level of the 4 horsemen....LOL

Some cyber point? LMAO LMAO

You walk into yourself, sometimes. Too funny, but continue to deflect. And we WERE NOT talking about post #621. Get your pants on the way out.

I've asked this question before, and it's never been answered.

What gives you confidence that Scott Pioli, the GM of the Kansas City Chiefs, can pick the players that this team needs in order to succeed and win in the playoffs?

What about his track record as a general manager leads you to believe that he will do this?

Ryan Succop. Succonthat beyotch.

Are you talking about this?


Funny, considering a caller to Pat Kirwan's show on Sirius the other day asked a very similar question, and was given the same answer.

The casual fan has no idea how hard the job is, and how many hours are put in.

Guys sitting on 8 figure bank accounts from their playing days aren't going to be willing to put in the time/effort needed to earn a few hundred thousand dollars a year.

Yes I did.

I apologize.

So all track records are suppose to be off a small sample size of "one year"? Wow, talk about a dead end job! :)

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