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staylor26 02-27-2025 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17981858)
And one of those guards will be replaced by a guy on a rookie deal next year.

Jesus Christ, 7 straight AFCCG's, 5 SB's and 3 Lombardis and some of you think we have a window licking mouthbreather for a GM.

It's not even March yet. Dude has a plan, let's see it play out.
Exactly. Like I said, it's just one piece of the puzzle. People need to relax.

OnTheWarpath15 02-27-2025 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by ThrobProng (Post 17981859)
I hope so, because Smith can't pass block for shit.
26 pressures and no sacks tells a COMPLETELY different story.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/trey-smith/62960

MahomesMagic 02-27-2025 02:56 PM
This tells me Thuney is retiring soon.

GordonGekko 02-27-2025 02:59 PM
How do the Chiefs have the cash for this? Nate Taylor says the Chiefs have intentions to sign him to a long term deal. Do they not believe in Kingsley or Morris? Are they basically wasted draft picks right now?

We still need a LT ASAP, and Veach said LT was priority #1 in his pressers yesterday, yet they do this while having no money. Head scratcher.

nychief 02-27-2025 03:01 PM
the deadline isn't until tuesday - this could all just be a negotiation ploy too - getting info out there...

FloridaMan88 02-27-2025 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17981858)
It's not even March yet. Dude has a plan, let's see it play out.
A better plan than last year hopefully when every LT the Chiefs drafted/signed was unplayable in the entirety of the postseason.

Mecca 02-27-2025 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17981854)
But can the Chiefs significantly invest/upgrade LT, while paying a premium at every other position on the offensive line, or is that salary cap prohibitive?

Even before this Trey Smith franchise tag hit, the Chiefs already had more of their salary cap invested in guards, than any other team in the league.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Offensive Guard 2024 Salary Cap% (SpotRac):<br><br>Chiefs: 11.89%<br><br>Eagles: 3.12%<br><br>Lions: 3.38%<br><br>Bills: 1.45%<br><br>Texans: 4%<br><br>Vikings: 1.39%<br><br>Commanders: 3.32%<br><br>Ravens: 2.95%<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bears?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bears</a> % in 2025 if they sign Kevin Zeitler and Trey Smith to their projected contracts (PFF):<br><br>~9.57%</p>&mdash; Michael Totosz (@MichaelTotosz) <a href="https://twitter.com/MichaelTotosz/status/1894107280699756968?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
This isn't super honest, Thuney is on his last year so his hit is 27 mill, odds he plays on that is low.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2025 03:04 PM
Let's be real here too, if they did trade Trey, we're getting a 4 back at best. Which is equivalent to the comp 3rd next year you might get.

So yeah.... they're planning to lock him in long term I gotta believe. Excited to find out the complementary plan.

OnTheWarpath15 02-27-2025 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 17981867)
How do the Chiefs have the cash for this? Nate Taylor says the Chiefs have intentions to sign him to a long term deal. Do they not believe in Kingsley or Morris? Are they basically wasted draft picks right now?

We still need a LT ASAP, and Veach said LT was priority #1 in his pressers yesterday, yet they do this while having no money. Head scratcher.
Money isn't a concern until March 12 when the new league year starts.

Between now and then there are sure to be restructures freeing up space. Mahomes and Chris Jones are both probable candidates.

Also, any long term deal with Trey is almost guaranteed to be a low cap hit this year and backloaded to coincide with Thuney and Jawaan being off the books.

Kingsley is likely Thuney's replacement in 2026, IMO. Wouldn't be shocked to see Morris at RT as well. He's always looked better on the right side.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2025 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17981878)
Money isn't a concern until March 12 when the new league year starts.

Between now and then there are sure to be restructures freeing up space.

Also, any long term deal with Trey is almost guaranteed to be a low cap hit this year and backloaded to coincide with Thuney and Jawaan being off the books.

Kingsley is likely Thuney's replacement in 2026, IMO. Wouldn't be shocked to see Morris at RT as well. He's always looked better on the right side.
Playing Kingsley at LG week 18 and not RG makes all the more sense now...

nychief 02-27-2025 03:06 PM
I don't get all the consternation over signing Smith. It seems like a stray man argument that it's either sign Smith OR sign an LT. If they want him, they can find the money for the likes of Staley.

Balto 02-27-2025 03:07 PM
Another tag/trade idea.

Phins have a LT to take over for Armstead but they really need a guard.

What about a Smith for Armstead trade?

pugsnotdrugs19 02-27-2025 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17981883)
I don't get all the consternation over signing Smith. It seems like a stray man argument that it's either sign Smith OR sign an LT. If they want him, they can find the money for the likes of Staley.
Right.

Because all along we thought they'd let Smith go in favor of signing Joe to an extension. So all along people were planning to pay this money to a guard.

Now that Joe is potentially not planning to play long...

Coochie liquor 02-27-2025 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17981863)
26 pressures and no sacks tells a COMPLETELY different story.

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/trey-smith/62960
Good for 104th ranking. 40.8 playoff pass blocking grade. 25th of 34.

OnTheWarpath15 02-27-2025 03:20 PM
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