ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs How much sense does Mahomes make for MVP?

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17756433)

Maybe not at the time.

But it's possible, I'll grant you.

I won't say Marty is the reason he doesn't have a Super Bowl ring. Bad luck can certainly keep some great coaches from getting one (though there's a reason Marty is the first one to come to mind).

However, there's a difference between 'Doesn't have a ring' and 'loses 3/4 of his playoff games'.

Marty went 5-13 in the post-season, fellas. That's AWFUL. That's not bad luck, that's bad coaching.

I mean just go through the ranks of coaching wins. Lets set the cut-off at 100 wins (that's a damn good, but not great career).

There are just a handful of dudes with playoff records as bad/worse than Marty.

Steve Owen: 2-8
Marvin Lewis: 0-7
Jim Mora: 0-6
Sid Gilman: 1-5
George Allen: 2-7

Steve Owen coached in the 30s. George Allen at least won a conference championship.

So you've got Marty, Marvin, Mora and Sid Gilman.

Those...uh...aren't great coaches. And I'm hard pressed to say the rest of that group was even good.

I don't know how those other coaches faired, but I think Marty did suffer from a lot of bad luck, especially his last season with SD. In his 13 playoff games he only lost by more than 1 score 4 times.

3
3
5
1
1
23
17
10
10
3
4
3
3

Those are the point differentials he lost each playoff game by. He did everything right in his final Chargers game and the team ****ed it up. This is his turnover differential in each playoff loss and what the offense ranked that year in turnovers during the regular season.

1-1 #11
3-1 #1
4-1 #4
2-3 #10
1-2 #2
4-3 #2
3-1 #1
2-1 #8
2-0 #9
4-1 #1
0-2 #2
1-0 #3
4-3 #1

That is 31 turnovers committed by his offenses and 19 turnovers committed by the teams he played against. A -12 turnover differential in playoff games that he lost. That many turnovers for a coach that no one could argue didn't have some of the most disciplined teams in the league year after year and had about the least turnovers on offense every year. His defenses were stingy as shit and they were constantly in the top 10 in takeaways.

So his either something in the way he coached made his offense start turning the ball over and his defense stopped getting those turnovers. That or it was really shit luck. I'll say he had some really bad luck in the biggest games. Just like Frank Clark had the most luck I've ever seen in the biggest games.