You don't get to be "elite" until you win some hardware. Burrow is no closer to "elite" than Herbert, especially considering Burrow's all-world receiving corps and top 10 defense.

Joe Burrow probably has the best supporting cast a QB has had in years...

He has probably the best receiver in the league mixed with another guy who will get #1 money and his 3rd receiver is high end as well. His backs are also good...the only thing he doesn't have is a top 10 TE, that's it.

You think putting up regular season numbers and being carried by defense through the playoffs, then when the team needs you, the QB, the most you fail on the last 5 drives in the Super Bowl to score anything and fail on the last 2 in the AFC championship to score anything makes for an elite QB. I don’t.

God I wish we drafted Tee Higgins.

He'd be so perfect for this offense

Guess the same could be said for Mahomes when he started his second year. Hill and Kelce are some pretty awesome players that were already in a system that was functioning well (Playoffs). Also, helps to have a proven winning coach with 20+ years experience.

Joe on the other hand was coming to a team that had the #1 overall pick for a reason.

He's very, very good, but still has a lot of learning to do only playing in the league for 2 full seasons. He tends to hold the ball too long at times but is starting to get much better at that. His accuracy and moxy can be off the charts though.

TBF to him during his two playoff seasons, his O-line in all those playoff games was no better than a turnstile.

Not easy in big games against the likes of:
Jeffery Simmons
Maxx Crosby
J. Houston/Roquan Smith
Chris Jones/Frank Clark
Aaron Donald/Von Miller


Bengals' playoff O-lines Adeniji, Sharping, Q. Spain

Anytime us Chiefs fans would hear about this horrid Oline the Bengals had... we would get all excited and then the Chiefs Dline would be near worthless. It was getting hard to believe.

This past game, I just think the Chiefs Dline wanted it more, not necessarily that the Bengals Oline stinks... I mean they just dominated in Buffalo.

Fake Joe is plenty good enough to win a bowl, elite yes.

I'm not going to try to compare Burrow to Mahomes until he gets paid and the team can't keep the best wide receivers group in the NFL together. He looked much more mortal Sunday night with Boyd hurt. Doesn't bode well for his future. Mahomes is already being paid and had to live without Tyreek. He responded with an MVP season and a trip to the Superbowl. Let's see what Burrow does when that happens to him. His best window is closing soon.

I hope Burrow is elite. We'll see in about 2-3 years, but I have high hopes.

At least Pacheco can make us feel a lot better about the CEH pick.

Burrough being elite will only further help KC stay in shape.

*Dan Marino has entered the chat

He was elite...for his era. However, he wasn't worthy of washing the Brittany leavins' out of Mahomes' jock.

A bad OL can wreck a game for any QB. It happened to Mahomes when he played the Bucs two years ago. It happened to Burrow.

BTW, our young pups on defense have grown into hounds. Cook, Williams, Watson, George, and McDuffie are all finding their groove. That was a monster game and they held their water. Not nearly enough credit is being given to our young ascending defense. Spags too.