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DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360362)
With the chiefs starting a new qb and having a young offense basically set, it’s not likely they’re a contender next year unless things go really well.

That being the case they need to get the financial house in order so I’d look to potentially get rid of any older vet that isn’t gonna be here in a year or two anyway

The only reason why, at this point, the Chiefs should be considered a contender for the AFC West crown is because Rivers will be a year older, Denver doesn’t have a QB and while the Raiders likely upgraded their coaching staff, their line is older and their defense is a sieve.

The best course of action for the Chiefs in 2018, IMO anyway, is to get a badass LG, a returner/receiver in the mold of Pharoah Cooper, draft as many defenses pieces as possible and hope to win high scoring shootouts each week.

BryanBusby 01-14-2018 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13360380)
FYP

Eh. The cap goes up enough every year to keep your own talent. When you gotta pay vets is when things accelerate in a hurry.

O.city 01-14-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360406)
The only reason why at this point, the Chiefs should be considered a contender for the AFC West crown is because Rivers will be a year older, Denver doesn’t have a QB and while the Raiders likely upgraded their coaching staff, their line is older and their defense is a sieve.

The best course of action for the Chiefs in 2018, IMO anyway, is to get a badass LG, a returner/receiver in the mold of Pharoah Cooper, draft as many defenses pieces as possible and hope to win high scoring shootouts each week.

They need to try and push building the defense quickly while they’ve got a qb on a cheap deal.

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360434)
They need to try and push building the defense quickly while they’ve got a qb on a cheap deal.

They can do that through the draft.

But all the offense is missing is a monster left guard.

Fill that hole with a stud and the offense will be more explosive in 2018, especially in short yardage situations, which has been their albatross.

O.city 01-14-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360443)
They can do that through the draft.

But all the offense is missing is a monster left guard.

Fill that hole with a stud and the offense will be more explosive in 2018, especially in short yardage situations, which has been their albatross.

Weren’t they like first in the league in those situations this year?

I’d like a new lg but I’m not sure they value it that much for some reason

RunKC 01-14-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13360409)
Eh. The cap goes up enough every year to keep your own talent. When you gotta pay vets is when things accelerate in a hurry.

That’s why the draft is so important. Cheap contracts solve everything.

Dorsey ****ed up theb2014 draft, a 3rd rd pick in 2015 and took a developmental project in the 2nd rd this year.

Chickens came to roost this year.

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360461)
Weren’t they like first in the league in those situations this year?

I’d like a new lg but I’m not sure they value it that much for some reason

Dorsey tried with the Grubbs trade, with Ehinger and so on but couldn’t crack that nut.

It’s time to pay a free agent, just like they did with Schwartz after years of bad right tackle play.

O.city 01-14-2018 01:11 PM

I’d be all for it but again, I’m just not sure that’s a spot they’ll go after

I haven’t looked but are there any good guards available

BryanBusby 01-14-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13360477)
That’s why the draft is so important. Cheap contracts solve everything.

Dorsey ****ed up theb2014 draft, a 3rd rd pick in 2015 and took a developmental project in the 2nd rd this year.

Chickens care to roost this year.

Can't nail every draft.

Just too many reeruned deals is what sunk KC. Shit like Dunta Robinson and that dog shit OL from Arizona, extending Grubbs, waiting forever to sign Berry+Houston, trading for a limpdick QB they had to pay, giving Jamaal more money for him to promptly break down.

So many shitty contracts because they were determined to win now.

O.city 01-14-2018 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13360513)
Can't nail every draft.

Just too many reeruned deals is what sunk KC. Shit like Dunta Robinson and that dog shit OL from Arizona, extending Grubbs, waiting forever to sign Berry+Houston, trading for a limpdick QB they had to pay, giving Jamaal more money for him to promptly break down.

So many shitty contracts because they were determined to win now.

Bad luck with some of it too

Houston and Berry get deserved big deals and get hurt

Etc etc

BryanBusby 01-14-2018 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360521)
Bad luck with some of it too

Houston and Berry get deserved big deals and get hurt

Etc etc

I don't think injuries after signing deals matters a lot, outside of just shit ass luck for us.

You just can't sustain for long when you're giving out record breaking deals while being crushed with dead money.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360362)
With the chiefs starting a new qb and having a young offense basically set, it’s not likely they’re a contender next year unless things go really well.

That being the case they need to get the financial house in order so I’d look to potentially get rid of any older vet that isn’t gonna be here in a year or two anyway

I do think we will have growing pains but I think with Berry coming back, if we can fix the pass rush it would really go a long way to making next year a legit year.

DaneMcCloud 01-14-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13360497)
I’d be all for it but again, I’m just not sure that’s a spot they’ll go after

I haven’t looked but are there any good guards available

Yes, 26 year old All Pro from the Panthers Andrew Nowell.

27 year old Titans guard Quinton Spain.

I’d go all in on Nowell. An interior with Nowell/Fulton/LDT would be bad ass.

No more fail on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.

I’m tired of that shit.

chiefzilla1501 01-14-2018 01:39 PM

I'm not as bummed out about free agency and draft. We used free agency to build depth and I don't mind if we keep doing that. For the price of one blue chip, we signed several middling guys to deals that were easy to back out of. Vance Walker and Dunta were disasters, but they were easy to cut. I feel like most of our really bad deals were when we re-signed our own. And our cap troubles on free agents were mostly poor cap management - cutting a guy way too soon, or not soon enough.

NJChiefsFan 01-14-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13360694)
Yes, 26 year old All Pro from the Panthers Andrew Nowell.

27 year old Titans guard Quinton Spain.

I’d go all in on Nowell. An interior with Nowell/Fulton/LDT would be bad ass.

No more fail on 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1.

I’m tired of that shit.

How would you rank G compared to CB, OLB, and DL?


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