Again the tape is not showing this.

Ford is by no means Houston when it comes to the bull rush, but he's gotten stronger and it's shown. The Peters INT happened bc Ford used the bull rush and it forced Carr to move in the pocket.

Here's an inside move he used and forced Carr to flee the pocket in a hurry.

https://twitter.com/realmnchiefsfan/...72117607010305

I'd say that was an effective 2nd move.

Ford has definitely improved since last year. Hali has been playing very well too, so if/when JH comes back it will be a nice rotation.

Not at all fair.

I bet if you take all of his starts, he's been one of the best edge guys at getting pressure and sacks during that timeframe.

Apart from that, he was pretty damn good against Oakland. I'm watching the all 22 and he's providing consistent pressure.

Slowly backtracking your original statement because it's wrong and not factual. Well done

Hmm. I'm not really seeing a backtrack.

Assuming that Ford hasnt hit his ceiling in 5 games worth of starts, assuming that there is still growth as a football player left in him... I feel MUCH better about him than I did to start the season

He has begun to display the necessary bend to turn the corner and not consistently be ridden out of the picture, and his run defense has definitely improved as well

If he can continue along his current track, we will all be pleasantly surprised with what he looks like toward the end of the regular season

Me either, I see a good conversation and people with open minds discussing.

He might not be flashing all game but he's made 3 game winning plays so far. Closed it out.

I think he'll fill the Hali role fine next year with a healthy Houston...

No doubt, Houston back at 100% changes the dynamic of the entire defense

I don't think it's even debatable that the pressure killed the play.

And that's why some people(not necessarily lil' stumpy) end up having ridiculous arguments. They are so dead set on making a point and never acknowledging that the other poster can convince them of something. That isn't a weakness.

i simply think if he spoke like mike tyson, and not michael jackson, we would take him more seriously :D

seriously though, one never knows if a player will be good unless he gets on the field and is getting reps. he may be taking on the weaker tackles of the opponents. but let him continue. between hali and houston on the other side (dont take ford out, make hali houstons breather), and the interior line. i really don't think we have to worry about the lack of pass rush any time soon.

Huh? Mike Tyson doesn't have a tough sounding voice at all. Maybe you should have used George Foreman and Boy George for your reference.

Jackson might have sounded tougher than Tyson lol

So how do we expect him to do this week against the Jags? Sacks come in bunches it seems. Can he get another multi sack game tomorrow? How is the Jax offensive line?

the point of reference was that even though tyson didn't sound tough, he would state how he would chew your face off, rather than talk about butterflies and rabbits :D