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DJ's left nut 03-10-2016 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 12123960)
no sure i understand the jets bailing on fitzpatrick in order to trade picks for kaperwhatever

Seems odd to drive up the price for potential competitors for Fitzpatrick.

If you're the Jets, don't you want the Broncos to get a clean deal done for Kaepernick so they're not bidding up the market for Fitz?

And ultimately I don't think the Browns are really fighting that hard for Kaepernick. I think they're set on going QB at 2, as well they should be.

staylor26 03-10-2016 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12123966)
Seems odd to drive up the price for potential competitors for Fitzpatrick.

If you're the Jets, don't you want the Broncos to get a clean deal done for Kaepernick so they're not bidding up the market for Fitz?

And ultimately I don't think the Browns are really fighting that hard for Kaepernick. I think they're set on going QB at 2, as well they should be.

Wentz is a lock at #2 and a STUD. Have you taken a look at him yet?

The Franchise 03-10-2016 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 12123960)
no sure i understand the jets bailing on fitzpatrick in order to trade picks for kaperwhatever

Fitz just saw that Cousins is going to get $19 million this year and Osweiler is averaging $18 million a year on his contract. The market essentially priced Fitz out of the Jets plans.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12123978)
Wentz is a lock at #2 and a STUD. Have you taken a look at him yet?

Yeah, he'd be my pick at 2 as well.

I don't know that I see this 'combination of Andrew Luck and Big Ben' kind of hype being put forward by Mayock. To me he looks like a more polished, savvy Ryan Tannehill. Which is to say that he looks damn good because I've long been a fan of Tannehill's skill-set, I just think his head gets in his way (not shocking given his relatively late transition to QB).

The only thing that would keep me from taking Wentz if I were Cleveland is SD leapfrogging me to take him at 1. The good news for them is that the signing bonus SD gave Rivers makes him pretty much impossible to trade or cut in the next 3 seasons so I can't imagine they'll be looking QB. Mistake on SDs part, IMO.

DJ's left nut 03-10-2016 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12123982)
Fitz just saw that Cousins is going to get $19 million this year and Osweiler is averaging $18 million a year on his contract. The market essentially priced Fitz out of the Jets plans.

Okay, so who's plans would he be in, then?

Because the Broncos seem to have just sent a pretty loud signal that they ain't lookin' to spend $18 million on a quarterback. The Browns can't sell him to their fans.

Fitzpatrick's market may just dry up on him unless SF decides for some odd reason that they want to trade Kaepernick only to open their wallets for Fitz. I guess I could see the Rams paying a bit; they've got the space and the need. They also have the ability to hit the ground running in their new city if they can get credible QB play and use that #15 pick finding him a weapon.

The Franchise 03-10-2016 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12124002)
Okay, so who's plans would he be in, then?

Because the Broncos seem to have just sent a pretty loud signal that they ain't lookin' to spend $18 million on a quarterback. The Browns can't sell him to their fans.

Fitzpatrick's market may just dry up on him unless SF decides for some odd reason that they want to trade Kaepernick only to open their wallets for Fitz. I guess I could see the Rams paying a bit; they've got the space and the need. They also have the ability to hit the ground running in their new city if they can get credible QB play and use that #15 pick finding him a weapon.

Oh, I fully agree with you. Fitz is going to price himself out of everyone's market and end up settling on a team late in FA if he keeps this shit up. He needs to re-sign with the Jets because that offense is perfect for him.

staylor26 03-10-2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12123995)
Yeah, he'd be my pick at 2 as well.

I don't know that I see this 'combination of Andrew Luck and Big Ben' kind of hype being put forward by Mayock. To me he looks like a more polished, savvy Ryan Tannehill. Which is to say that he looks damn good because I've long been a fan of Tannehill's skill-set, I just think his head gets in his way (not shocking given his relatively late transition to QB).

The only thing that would keep me from taking Wentz if I were Cleveland is SD leapfrogging me to take him at 1. The good news for them is that the signing bonus SD gave Rivers makes him pretty much impossible to trade or cut in the next 3 seasons so I can't imagine they'll be looking QB. Mistake on SDs part, IMO.

I think the Luck comparison is about his sneaky athleticism, and football IQ. He made all the protection calls at the line of scrimmage and had the freedom to audible to whatever he wanted. I like the Tannehill comparison in terms of athleticism for sure, but he definitely has it up stair it appears. Word is he blew everybody away in his combine interviews.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12123982)
Fitz just saw that Cousins is going to get $19 million this year and Osweiler is averaging $18 million a year on his contract. The market essentially priced Fitz out of the Jets plans.

Osweiler getting that contract makes Alex Smith's contract look like a bargain.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:05 PM

Oh and thanks for the CB.

ct 03-10-2016 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 12123761)
Yep. Give me Smith over Tamba or Johnson.

no way, smith is overrated to me. he's very good, he is NOT great. put him in a box and he can do well, but if he has to exceed that small range he's a liability. we can do better. and we sure as hell shouldn't be paying him $10M per.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-10-2016 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124071)
Oh and thanks for the CB.

No, we'll be saying thank you when Schwartz is locking up Mack, and Maclin is torching Smith. :)

Kidding, sorta. Should be fun.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 12124081)
No, we'll be saying thank you when Schwartz is locking up Mack, and Maclin is torching Smith. :)

Kidding, sorta. Should be fun.

It will be interesting to see if Amerson can build on the great showing he had the last half of 2015. If he merely plays at that same level, Oakland has a nice pair of CBs.

The Chiefs style of getting the ball out as quickly as possible helps to negate Mack's pass rush, though he's still a beast against the run as well.

Mother****erJones 03-10-2016 12:15 PM

KC and Oakland for the division. Denver will hang depending on the QB and their defense is still good. KC is better than Oakland still.

lawrenceRaider 03-10-2016 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 12124092)
KC and Oakland for the division. Denver will hang depending on the QB and their defense is still good. KC is better than Oakland still.

KC has to be the favorite. Established system and players. Your OL is still the biggest weakness to me, but that really didn't hamper you last year.

staylor26 03-10-2016 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 12124099)
KC has to be the favorite. Established system and players. Your OL is still the biggest weakness to me, but that really didn't hamper you last year.

Ummm we just signed arguably the best RT in football.

We're one of the few teams that have bookends at OT.


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