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ChiefsCountry 09-10-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8898351)
You are either a mult or the dumbest ****ing person on Chiefsplanet.

He came from the Colation. That should explain it for you.

the Talking Can 09-10-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898349)
Raji might be the most overrated player this board has a love affair with IMO.

feel free to compare his first years to jackson for us...thanks

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898349)
Raji might be the most overrated player this board has a love affair with IMO.

Considering the fact that the Packers can't stop anyone and their defense flat out sucks, I think it's hard to know Raji's value at this point in time.

Put him on a defense surrounded by talent and he could be a top ten defensive lineman.

Tombstone RJ 09-10-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8898314)
because they are paranoid and hate Pioli

They think that Pioli forced Haley to suck, bugged his phone and did all sorts of ridiculous crap.

well the man did leave a candy wrapper on the floor for two weeks just to see if anyone would pick it up... :)

LVNHACK 09-10-2012 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8898058)
I don't get it.


You should stop right there.....Most intelligent thing you've ****ing posted in 1,104 tries...

Buckweath 09-10-2012 01:07 PM

Some of you guys are ridiculous. That Chiefs defense, without Berry, was 11th overall last year, and 4th in the second half of last season after those dreadful first few games where the whole team was unprepared.

Didn't you see watch Chiefs football when this D was dominant against Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady for a half?

What did you guys really expect to do against probably a top 3-5 passing offense, when missing your two most important players against the pass in Hali and Flowers and a guy like Lewis who is underrated and whom is good in coverage, better than Elam?

Between Hali, Houston, and Poe and Bailey when they develop, the Chiefs are fine at passrushing.

Remember, 6th in passing defense last year despite no Erib Berry and playing the likes of Rodgers, Big Ben, Brady and others.

As for Dorsey and Jackson, they are solid players. You just can't hit on every first round pick, no matter how high. Compare the Chiefs first round picks since 2005 with the rest of the league, the Chiefs have had great success with their 1st round picks overall.

Black Bob 09-10-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898349)
Raji might be the most overrated player this board has a love affair with IMO.

Thanks man and good post. Green Bay hasn't been the same since Jenkins left.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8898314)
because they are paranoid and hate Pioli

They think that Pioli forced Haley to suck, bugged his phone and did all sorts of ridiculous crap.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

I have a friend from junior high and high school that's worked for the Chiefs off and on for the past two decades.

Let's just say that his stories aren't much different than what Babb reported.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8898354)
He came from the Colation. That should explain it for you.

JFC.

These people should be required to take an intelligence test before posting here.

BossChief 09-10-2012 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8898356)
feel free to compare his first years to jackson for us...thanks

We are both biased in different ways.

The unbiased opinion (PFF) had Tyson as the better player last year.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8898340)
Everyone in the top 10 missed on guys like Mathews and that's the point. that is well known to be the worst draft class and biggest crapshoot of all time. We came out OK.

No, the point is that Scott Pioli is paid $5 million dollars per year to be smarter than not only the other 31 GM's in the NFL, but smarter than the average poster on a football forum.

And the Chiefs did NOT come out "OK".

JFC, I've just about run out of adjectives for your dumbassery.

Mr. Laz 09-10-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 8898369)
Some of you guys are ridiculous. That Chiefs defense, without Berry, was 11th overall last year, and 4th in the second half of last season after those dreadful first few games where the whole team was unprepared.

Didn't you see watch Chiefs football when this D was dominant against Big Ben, Aaron Rodgers, and Tom Brady for a half?

What did you guys really expect to do against probably a top 3-5 passing offense, when missing your two most important players against the pass in Hali and Flowers and a guy like Lewis who is underrated and whom is good in coverage, better than Elam?

Between Hali, Houston, and Poe and Bailey when they develop, the Chiefs are fine at passrushing.

Remember, 6th in passing defense last year despite no Erib Berry and playing the likes of Rodgers, Big Ben, Brady and others.

As for Dorsey and Jackson, they are solid players. You just can't hit on every first round pick, no matter how high. Compare the Chiefs first round picks since 2005 with the rest of the league, the Chiefs have had great success with their 1st round picks overall.

understood but i want our defense to be more flexible.

Crennel seems to have 2 ways of calling a defense ... bend/don't break and super bend/don't break.

We gotta have more

Buckweath 09-10-2012 01:12 PM

People criticize Dorsey and Jackson for not being good enough against the pass but the Chiefs D finished 6th overall in pass D and 26th in rush D last year, how funny is that?

And I'll add that they were 14th overall in YPC allowed.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8898375)
We are both biased in different ways.

The unbiased opinion (PFF) had Tyson as the better player last year.

Who gives a shit. Really?

The Packers were 15-1 last year and won the Super Bowl since Raji was drafted.

Neither the Chiefs nor Jackson have done dick in that time period.

DaneMcCloud 09-10-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8898382)
understood but i want our defense to be more flexible.

Crennel seems to have 2 ways of calling a defense ... bend/don't break and super bend/don't break.

We gotta have more

He's 65. Therefore, I don't think you're going to see anything more.


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