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Baby Lee 09-17-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by phillip (Post 5026960)
That's the boat I'm in. I want to have fun watching the Chiefs. That's why I don't like Herm. He makes the game so F-ing boring to watch. Even if we're winning the way he does things (which we won't because those days are long gone) it will be like watching the Ravens super bowl run some years back. Snooze.

Go watch basketball, pansy.

milkman 09-17-2008 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5027668)
Because there really should be visible, tangible progress. After two games.

Anyone who expected to see progress from the players at this point in the season was sure to be disappointed.

But I expected to some some more imaginitive playcalling from Chan Gaily.

We keep seeing the same stupid shit.

We keep running into brick walls and putting ourselves into known passing situations, and that is a formula for failure.

It's non productive, and QB destructive.

It's the Bag 'em and Tag 'em offense.

FAX 09-17-2008 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5027526)
Pretty much, yeah. But is it really a demeaning, disrespectful view if it's true? Why not just say "accurate view"?

Well, here's the thing, Mr. BigRock. A lot of Chiefs fans can differentiate between a "rebuild" and a deperate attempt to steal a cheap win by running the sloption.

In fact, I think a lot of Chiefs fans are sufficiently sophisticated to know the difference between playing young players in a scheme that allows them to maximize their skills, gain valuable playing time, and grow as both individual performers and as a team vs. dialing back, dumbing down, and displaying disorganized dumbassery.

Personally, I think that, if Hermoine were to just go for it, open up the offense, and take his lumps along the way, most peeps would understand and he would be far better off - both in the short term and in the long run. Besides, that's what he clearly indicated he was going to do and, you know, Chiefs fans don't like being lied to, either.

FAX

Mecca 09-17-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 5027668)
Because there really should be visible, tangible progress. After two games.

The problem with this is, with a young team you don't want a coach who looks lost on the sideline, having a coach and frankly a front office that appears to be completely lost is not good for the development of these players.

I said long ago the idea of going young is correct, but he isn't the right guy to get it done. He isn't the kind of coach to do this...the Chiefs have very very little leadership and it starts with Herm Edwards.

I don't have a problem rebuilding I have a problem with the people leading it, I feel that they are more likely to lead us to being Detroit. I don't feel we have the coaching staff to develop these players to their full potential or establish any leadership or confidence in them.

We have a head coach who in a rebuilding year where nothing is expected still coaches like his asshole is puckered with pressure.

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5027713)
Anyone who expected to see progress from the players at this point in the season was sure to be disappointed.

But I expected to some some more imaginitive playcalling from Chan Gaily.

We keep seeing the same stupid shit.

We keep running into brick walls and putting ourselves into known passing situations, and that is a formula for failure.

It's non productive, and QB destructive.

It's the Bag 'em and Tag 'em offense.


QFT.

Mecca 09-17-2008 05:56 AM

We'll never see change in the offense because Herm is here, it's his offense. He then will fire the OC as the scapegoat, it's why he's had 5 of them in 7 years....a new guy comes in and it's the same offense.

OnTheWarpath15 09-17-2008 05:58 AM

Keep complaining, people.

Then maybe, Herm will get his shit together, this team might gel, and we might win 4 games, giving Herm ANOTHER YEAR.

Christ, people should be doing ****ing backflips over Herm's incompetence, he's signing his own death notice.

Mecca 09-17-2008 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5027720)
Keep complaining, people.

Then maybe, Herm will get his shit together, this team might gel, and we might win 4 games, giving Herm ANOTHER YEAR.

Christ, people should be doing ****ing backflips over Herm's incompetence, he's signing his own death notice.

The problem is there are some people that will say even if they go 1-15 no one will get fired, I know that sounds laughable but this is the Chiefs so that though does cross my mind.

Hootie 09-17-2008 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5027005)
Anyone that thinks Herm is going to win a SB I really want the drugs you are taking

I doubt Herm, too...I really do...

But I think Giants fans were probably saying the same thing about Tom Coughlin the last few years...

Just sayin'...

Fire Me Boy! 09-17-2008 06:02 AM

Might want to edit the online version -

"You see, if the Chiefs’ recent decent into also-ran status has shown us anything, it’s that Peterson may be a lot smarter than anyone’s been giving him credit for."

I'm pretty sure he meant "recent descent".

dirk digler 09-17-2008 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5027713)

But I expected to some some more imaginitive playcalling from Chan Gaily.

We keep seeing the same stupid shit.

We keep running into brick walls and putting ourselves into known passing situations, and that is a formula for failure.

It's non productive, and QB destructive.

It's the Bag 'em and Tag 'em offense.

Yep I agree. It is like giving them a stick and send them off to fight the guy with an AK-47

milkman 09-17-2008 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5027732)
Yep I agree. It is like giving them a stick and send them off to fight the guy with an AK-47

That's actually a good analogy.

In most cases though, the guy with the stick would be smart enough to hide.

Herman ****ing Edwards is the guy with the stick that is so stupid, he stands out in the open and yells that he's going to kick some ass.

Bowser 09-17-2008 07:07 AM

Every good rebuild starts with losing to an incompetent floundering division rival in your home opener that got embarassed themselves the week before in THEIR home opener! Everything is going according to plan!

Chiefnj2 09-17-2008 07:32 AM

It's been a rebuild for three years. Herm came in and immediately made changes to the defense and special teams. He brought his own special teams coach. He implemented the cover 2 and brought over a host of NY Jets to try to get it done and focussed on defense in his drafts. The rebuild didn't begin this year. .

Bowser 09-17-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5027787)
It's been a rebuild for three years. Herm came in and immediately made changes to the defense and special teams. He brought his own special teams coach. He implemented the cover 2 and brought over a host of NY Jets to try to get it done and focussed on defense in his drafts. The rebuild didn't begin this year. .

So this is the first year they are actually ADMITTING to rebuilding. Got it.


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