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Hammock Parties 11-20-2007 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
Damn this guy is the polar opposite of Vermiel.

Not really. They both have gigantic flaws that cause them to field teams that only win half their games in the long haul.

Dick's way was noisier. Herm's is a little quieter.

It's quite shocking, the similarities in fact. After two years with Dick, everyone was calling for Robinson's head. After two years with Herm, everyone is going to be calling for Solari's head.

And of course Herm and Dick are bestest buddies.

We'll see if Herm learns from his mistake (hiring a crappy coordinator) sooner than Dick learned from his. Dick waited a year too long to fire Robinson. Does Herm have the balls to show his buddy the door before it's too late? If we waste another year of Gonzalez and LJ's careers, it might be too late.

DaKCMan AP 11-20-2007 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd
You got it right. Last time I heard a Chiefs coach talk like that, it was Marv Levy explaining why he installed the wing T. We had no talent in his opinion. That is what Herm is saying, should really boost the players confidence and moral. Damn this guy is the polar opposite of Vermiel.

And Marv Levy proved to be a terrible coach. :rolleyes:

Herm gets one more year from me to build his team. Then it's all on him.

Mecca 11-20-2007 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Not really. They both have gigantic flaws that cause them to field teams that only win half their games in the long haul.

Dick's way was noisier. Herm's is a little quieter.

It's quite shocking, the similarities in fact. After two years with Dick, everyone was calling for Robinson's head. After two years with Herm, everyone is going to be calling for Solari's head.

And of course Herm and Dick are bestest buddies.

We'll see if Herm learns from his mistake (hiring a crappy coordinator) sooner than Dick learned from his. Dick waited a year too long to fire Robinson. Does Herm have the balls to show his buddy the door before it's too late? If we waste another year of Gonzalez and LJ's careers, it might be too late.

Herm isn't loyal like Vermiel, if it saves his ass he will blame and fire anyone and everyone he can. But in the end nothing will change because Herm has total control over everything, just like that quote in his book "I'm the head coach you do what I say" He dictates and when it doesn't work he blames the guy who did what he was told to do...

HemiEd 11-20-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX
I have a serious question.

What other active coach in today's NFL is as conservative as Herm? I know a lot of people cite Martyball, but he's not active right now. Anyone else come to mind?

FAX

The Bears fans are complaining about Lovie Smiths conservatism, but they have no ****ing idea how bad it can get.

Hammock Parties 11-20-2007 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Herm isn't loyal like Vermiel

I guess we're gonna find out. He kept Drummond and Welbourn out there way too long (and Welbourn is still playing). He has a long-time relationship with Mike Solari and he's been throwing "the talent" under the bus for weeks now. And the guy loves Dick Curl like his own father. He keeps him in his back pocket everywhere.

Watch the guy drop Saxon and Joiner like hot potatoes though....cus you know, they were Dick's coaches.

Dave Lane 11-20-2007 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater
What's next, we punt on first down so there's no chance of having a negative play?

No too risky. It could get blocked. Just Fumble the ball forward 40 yards on 1st down thats the real NFL play.

Dave

Bwana 11-20-2007 08:13 AM

"I play to lose the game."

~Herm~

Dave Lane 11-20-2007 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
Herm isn't loyal like Vermiel, if it saves his ass he will blame and fire anyone and everyone he can. But in the end nothing will change because Herm has total control over everything, just like that quote in his book "I'm the head coach you do what I say" He dictates and when it doesn't work he blames the guy who did what he was told to do...

Amen. Herm will use his coordinators like a wedge on a kickoff, he'll stay behind them all the way and let them catch the big hits.

He's a pussy deluxe

Dave

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka 11-20-2007 08:23 AM

Another example of a head coach that thinks fans are not intelligent enough to understand the game.

Hey Herm; STFU your a football coach, what you do is purely to provide entertainment for fans. And to keep having this nose up attitude that no one can understand the difficulty of you job is a joke. You make your job difficult by being a moron. Don't try and feed us this load of shit that what your doing is the best way, your own players don't agree with that.

I can assure you that 90% of the fans watching your joke of a gameplan weekly can virtually call every play during the game, thats how much of a complete farce your offense is.

If you want to play that way; fine, it sucks I don't like it, but nothing I can do about it. But don't try and convince fans that your the great and almighty football God and we are just a bunch of mindless idiots that will fall in step with what ever you say.

Chiefnj2 11-20-2007 08:27 AM

How much room do the Chiefs have left in cap room this year that they didn't spend?

They couldn't give up a 5th round pick in the supplemental draft for Gaither?

A large part of the OL problems fall on Carl for thinking the team was going to be successful in a power running scheme with Weigman, Welbourn and Terry/Turley.

Carl could have given Herm a few more tools to run his fraidy cat offense.

kc rush 11-20-2007 08:34 AM

How long until the Chiefs have a players only meeting and tell Herm how it is?

I'm not talking mutiny, just letting the coach know that they are capable of more and would like to be given the chance to win.

Mecca 11-20-2007 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kc rush
How long until the Chiefs have a players only meeting and tell Herm how it is?

I'm not talking mutiny, just letting the coach know that they are capable of more and would like to be given the chance to win.

Herm would then tell them he's the coach and to get on the bus.....

Dave Lane 11-20-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2
How much room do the Chiefs have left in cap room this year that they didn't spend?

They couldn't give up a 5th round pick in the supplemental draft for Gaither?

A large part of the OL problems fall on Carl for thinking the team was going to be successful in a power running scheme with Weigman, Welbourn and Terry/Turley.

Carl could have given Herm a few more tools to run his fraidy cat offense.


For the love of god this team is not that much worse on O than when DV had it.

Playmakers:

LJ
TG
Priest
Bowe
Kennison
Croyle
Waters

Thats a damn good nucleus and capable if Al Saunders was still OC of putting up 20-25 pts per game.

ITS ****ING HERM PEOPLE!!!

Dave

Mecca 11-20-2007 08:43 AM

It's partially the Oline, and Kennison's age has caught him at this point with his constant injuries. LJ isn't the same player anymore, but that is Herm's fault so you can blame him there.

But even if they had the exact right players they wouldn't score more than 17-20 points just because of how Herm wants the offense to play. He actually thinks scoring a bunch of points hurts the defense.

HemiEd 11-20-2007 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by GOATSE
Not really. They both have gigantic flaws that cause them to field teams that only win half their games in the long haul.

Dick's way was noisier. Herm's is a little quieter.

It's quite shocking, the similarities in fact. After two years with Dick, everyone was calling for Robinson's head. After two years with Herm, everyone is going to be calling for Solari's head.

And of course Herm and Dick are bestest buddies.

We'll see if Herm learns from his mistake (hiring a crappy coordinator) sooner than Dick learned from his. Dick waited a year too long to fire Robinson. Does Herm have the balls to show his buddy the door before it's too late? If we waste another year of Gonzalez and LJ's careers, it might be too late.

Dick never, ever wanted to throw anyone else under the bus. He hated it when Robinson had to go. He was a true leader of men, consequently, you never heard any of the players speak out against the team like Tony is right now.
Herm ****ing Edwards had not been shown where the shitter was, before he started throwing people under the bus.
First it was Vermeil, then Solari, and now it has progressed to the offensive talent. We don't have good enough players to play offense.


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